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Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t

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Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t report ​



Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t report (and people have thoughts) – twitchy.com
07/06/2019 ~ By Doug P
There are dueling rallies in Washington, DC today with what’s billed as a “free speech” event on one side, and Antifa protesters on the other. Of particular interest is this list of rules for what the media can and can’t cover if they want to get inside the Antifa rally, which is in a public space. Will the rest of the mainstream media remind Antifa activists that it’s a public space?

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This is hysterical, the media being given “or else” instructions. Doesn't the violate the First Amendment to our Constitution? My how the mighty have fallen.
Real reporters must be spinning in their graves. The Fourth Estate has been given it's walking papers. Either they kowtow to their Elitist Marxist Socialist betters or they will be treated harshly like Andy Ngo or worse.
What people don't realize is that Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats have modernized the Ku Klux Klan their terrorist arm to fit the 1st Century. All they did was adopt the name of a Communist group of Germany. They are the modern day brown shirts of pre war Nazi Germany. They are PMS/DSA Klansmen in their modern uniforms. There's no difference between the Antifa troglodyte cretins hiding their faces with masks or bandannas and a KKK member wearing a hood.
It seems apparent that most of the MSM is conforming to their demands because they're basically the same people that populate Antifa. It's plausible that any media person could throw on a black hood and do a night gig with these thugs. Indeed haven't some professors been caught doing just that.
The biased MSM tries to tell us that AntiFa stands for Anti-fascist when in fact they act as the very definition of Fascists. More appropriately the acronym stands for Anti First Amendment since they now attack Freedom Of Speech, Freedom Of Assembly, and Freedom Of The Press.
Perhaps a simple law banning the use of masks/bandanas at assemblies of protest be passed Federally similar to that of the State of Georgia.
Shouldn't the mere fact that both the MSM and the PMS/DSA Democrats have not and are not renouncing Antifa tells us everything we need to know.
 
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On one side, the media know 100% of this stuff. They don't need antifa to tell them, it's probably just a trigger for far right influences who try to go in and "get them." Hence they've been warned. No more andy ngo's today... Right?
 
There IS NO "this stuff".
If you are on public property or even private property WITHIN VIEW OF public property, you have ZERO expectation of privacy.
If you are marching in a protest, you have ZERO expectation or right to privacy.

Don't like it? Stay out of the view of public property and don't march on public streets.
Perhaps it is going to take photo and video journalists hiring licensed armed guards to correct this issue.
 
Law enforcement should pull down everyone's mask and take a picture of the person also showing their clothing. This would facilitate investigating criminal acts.
 
Antifa is doing this wrong. The media doesn't understand written instructions.

This is what they understand.

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Those guidelines are mighty fascist. Hitler would be proud of them.
 
The leftist Democrats who run these cities have emboldened Antifa to the point where they think they can not only set the rules, but that there are no rules that apply to them.
 
NeverTrump said:
On one side, the media know 100% of this stuff. They don't need antifa to tell them, it's probably just a trigger for far right influences who try to go in and "get them." Hence they've been warned. No more andy ngo's today... Right?
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So basically you're getting ready to condone the violence that they will perpetrate on anyone that they "deem" to be breaking these "made up" rules?

Because they have no right to enforce these rules that they fabricated and they damn well have no right to remove anyone who doesn't comply. It's a public space for a reason and someone like Andy Ngo, who is just doing their job. Shouldn't have to deal with this kind of hate and threatened harm.
 
Oborosen said:
So basically you're getting ready to condone the violence that they will perpetrate on anyone that they "deem" to be breaking these "made up" rules?

Because they have no right to enforce these rules that they fabricated and they damn well have no right to remove anyone who doesn't comply. It's a public space for a reason and someone like Andy Ngo, who is just doing their job. Shouldn't have to deal with this kind of hate and threatened harm.
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It's a warning saying, you spread propaganda against us, we will fight back. I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Nice...I can see you haven't been around very many professionals in the business.
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No caution tape, police tape, or even a damn traffic cone?

That man holding the line can kiss my left nut if he thinks he's stopping me.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's a warning saying, you spread propaganda against us, we will fight back. I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:
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There is nothing here warning about spreading propaganda and they have no right to tell the press to protect them, if they get filmed conducting any criminal activities.

Do you support them perpetrating criminal activities?
 
Oborosen said:
There is nothing here warning about spreading propaganda and they have no right to tell the press to protect them, if they get filmed conducting any criminal activities.

Do you support them perpetrating criminal activities?
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Yes, antifa has every right to sue the media if they think they are using footage in a way that they don't like. Trump threatens to do this all the time. In both cases it's silly, media will likely win, but that's why I'm guessing this is a direct response to the Andy Ngo thing where he went in trying to cause a rift and trying to catch them doing something bad. It's a good way to tell any court in the future that these MAGA idiots were warned.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's a warning saying, you spread propaganda against us, we will fight back. I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:
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Sorry but we don't take orders or guidelines from the people making the news event when they're out in public. Nothing requires you to talk to us but on the other hand nothing requires us to ask your permission to be filmed either.
You're now public people interacting with the public in a public place on public property.
And as such, we don't need your permission, for ANYTHING.

I'm high and tight on these things because I was taught to be that way from decades of experience.

Code of Ethics - National Press Photographers Association

PS: "Press photographer" is a term which applies not only to still photographers but also television/ENG videographers. ("television news camera ops")
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sorry but we don't take orders or guidelines from the people making the news event when they're out in public. Nothing requires you to talk to us but on the other hand nothing requires us to ask your permission to be filmed either.
You're now public people interacting with the public in a public place on public property.
And as such, we don't need your permission, for ANYTHING.

I'm high and tight on these things because I was taught to be that way from decades of experience.

Code of Ethics - National Press Photographers Association

PS: "Press photographer" is a term which applies not only to still photographers but also television/ENG videographers. ("television news camera ops")
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I think there's a line though right? You can film from afar and then blur out faces, but you can't interview if they don't give you permission. This is why I say it's really targeted towards the MAGA media. I saw some of the pictures from the rally today, and there were more reporters than actual people there. They go in looking to film bad spots and to edit tape to make them look bad. That was Andy Ngos MO.
 
Doc91478 said:
Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t report ​



Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t report (and people have thoughts) – twitchy.com
07/06/2019 ~ By Doug P
There are dueling rallies in Washington, DC today with what’s billed as a “free speech” event on one side, and Antifa protesters on the other. Of particular interest is this list of rules for what the media can and can’t cover if they want to get inside the Antifa rally, which is in a public space. Will the rest of the mainstream media remind Antifa activists that it’s a public space?

D-zZDc-XsAAHgJV.jpg



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This is hysterical, the media being given “or else” instructions. Doesn't the violate the First Amendment to our Constitution? My how the mighty have fallen.
Real reporters must be spinning in their graves. The Fourth Estate has been given it's walking papers. Either they kowtow to their Elitist Marxist Socialist betters or they will be treated harshly like Andy Ngo or worse.
What people don't realize is that Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats have modernized the Ku Klux Klan their terrorist arm to fit the 1st Century. All they did was adopt the name of a Communist group of Germany. They are the modern day brown shirts of pre war Nazi Germany. They are PMS/DSA Klansmen in their modern uniforms. There's no difference between the Antifa troglodyte cretins hiding their faces with masks or bandannas and a KKK member wearing a hood.
It seems apparent that most of the MSM is conforming to their demands because they're basically the same people that populate Antifa. It's plausible that any media person could throw on a black hood and do a night gig with these thugs. Indeed haven't some professors been caught doing just that.
The biased MSM tries to tell us that AntiFa stands for Anti-fascist when in fact they act as the very definition of Fascists. More appropriately the acronym stands for Anti First Amendment since they now attack Freedom Of Speech, Freedom Of Assembly, and Freedom Of The Press.
Perhaps a simple law banning the use of masks/bandanas at assemblies of protest be passed Federally similar to that of the State of Georgia.
Shouldn't the mere fact that both the MSM and the PMS/DSA Democrats have not and are not renouncing Antifa tells us everything we need to know.
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And you are suggesting antifa is hysterical?
 
NeverTrump said:
Yes, antifa has every right to sue the media if they think they are using footage in a way that they don't like. Trump threatens to do this all the time. In both cases it's silly, media will likely win, but that's why I'm guessing this is a direct response to the Andy Ngo thing where he went in trying to cause a rift and trying to catch them doing something bad. It's a good way to tell any court in the future that these MAGA idiots were warned.
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So yes, you condone their assault on an innocent person.

Because Andy was just doing his job and there was no indication that he was even doing as such to these people. Even though it's pretty easy to guess that if Antifa is a around. You're probably going to see them commit some sort of crime, or the other. Not to mention that even if he was antagonizing them verbally, that gives them no right to physically assault him in turn. They can yell and scream profanities, racial slurs and anything else that catches their fancy, so long as it isn't a call to action. But the moment they attacked him, they broke the law and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Not protected and condoned by people like you.
 
NeverTrump said:
I think there's a line though right? You can film from afar and then blur out faces, but you can't interview if they don't give you permission. This is why I say it's really targeted towards the MAGA media. I saw some of the pictures from the rally today, and there were more reporters than actual people there. They go in looking to film bad spots and to edit tape to make them look bad. That was Andy Ngos MO.
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You aren't required to blur out faces.
And as for interviews, of course they give permission, by speaking to you.
If they won't speak to you on camera, you can't very well interview them, but there is no law prohibiting the press from asking questions.

As for manipulating the story, that's not professionalism.
And Andy Ngo isn't a professional journalist.
Neither is James O'Keefe or "that spastic guy from Natural News" or "the other spastic guy" from Huffington Post or Occupy Democrats.

But nobody really NEEDS to try all that hard with Antifa to make them look bad, or the Proud Boys OR the Richard Spencer Tiki Nazis. There's no need to try because they do it all by themselves.

These extremist groups are antithetical to democratic values, and it shows.
 
NeverTrump said:
Yes, antifa has every right to sue the media
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You can't sue the media because you didn't like the story.
You can try to sue for slander or libel but the bar for those is necessarily VERY high.
 
Nickyjo said:
And you are suggesting antifa is hysterical?
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They are hysterical.
Take #4.
"Certain areas of the permitted area are flagged as no-filming or photo zones.
Refrain from filming in those areas."
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BULLCRAP.
Antifa does not hand out permits. Cities do. And the permit is for anyone to be there.
And there is no such thing as a "no filming or no photo zone" if you're out in public on public property. The police can designate that certain areas are for one group or another as a real time de facto enforcement action, but even the police aren't permitted to prohibit filming unless the presence of a photographer is getting in the way of police doing THEIR jobs.

This is why members of the public seldom win in court when an altercation ensues over being photographed.
There are issues of personal space where the press isn't allowed to interfere with the movement and normal activities of a private citizen in public, i.e. blocking their ability to go where they wish, for instance, especially if they are attempting to LEAVE the public space and enter private property.

But press professionals ALREADY aren't supposed to do that anyway, see the Code of Ethics.
It means you're manipulating the subject of the story.

And even police departments have lost in court for attempting to prevent press from filming law enforcement. A camera guy standing on a corner filming cops busting somebody isn't interfering with law enforcement.

These have all been litigated to death, and the law is clear on this subject.
But all press/media ethical codes lay it out clearly anyway.
 
Mycroft said:
Antifa is doing this wrong. The media doesn't understand written instructions.

This is what they understand.

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And by the way, that photo is from the Hillary Clinton campaign, and here is another angle:

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In the case of Hillary, or Donald, or any of the POTUS candidates, they are afforded Secret Service protection during the campaign.
Antifa or any other group of protesters or activists/extremists aren't entitled to Secret Service protection.

But it's entertaining that you support Hillary Clinton's ideas on controlling the news media.
Here's how Donald did it.

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And I believe the Bush administration called them freedom zones but they were far enough away to be completely out of sight.
 
Re: Antifa flyer with media ‘guidelines’ lets press know what they can and can’t

VanceMack said:
Those guidelines are mighty fascist. Hitler would be proud of them.
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I'm sure Hillary also likes those restrictions. Flash back:

Hillary Clinton campaign uses rope to corral media in New Hampshire
Hillary Clinton campaign uses rope to corral media in New Hampshire | MSNBC
Hillary Clinton’s campaign caught some flack on social media this weekend after reporters were corralled behind a moving rope line during a July 4th parade. Press access has been a perennial issue of Clinton’s second presidential campaign, and poor relations with the media were a hallmark of her first campaign.
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