Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?

Doc91478 said:

Byron York: Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?


Roger Stone Asks for Evidence Russians Hacked DNC Server
May 13, 2019 ~ By Byron York
A huge controversy erupted last year when President Trump declassified parts of the FBI's secret request to wiretap former Trump campaign volunteer foreign policy adviser Carter Page. Defenders and critics of the president argued over whether the October 2016 warrant application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court relied extensively on the so-called Steele dossier, which was a collection of anti-Trump allegations compiled by the former British spy Christopher Steele on behalf of the Hillary Clinton campaign.... Now, however, we have new evidence, in the form of the Mueller report, to evaluate the Page FISA application. We can ask: Was the information the FBI relied on true? Were the FBI's representations to the court accurate? The answers do not bode well for the bureau.
In the end, Baker might be right. It might have been entirely lawful to submit so much wrong information to the court and as a result be granted a warrant to wiretap a former Trump adviser in pursuit of a crime that had not actually occurred. And, given the extensive redactions, there is still much about the warrant that the public does not know.... that cannot create much confidence in the rest of the bureau's long and wide-ranging investigation of the president's 2016 campaign.


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Byron York has produced an excellent opinion piece that covers the Trump-Russia wiretap warrant. It appears that between the fiction written in the Steele Dossier, the lack of investiaging the DNC so called hacking breach and reliance on the FISA application based upon the Dossier, there's a lot of wrong decisions along the way both in the FBI and further still in the Mueller report where there was dependence upon the incompetent results stemming from the FBI.
AS those within Judicial Watch have repeated stated, "It time to investigate the Investigators."

See also: Mueller report proves that it's time to investigate the investigators | TheHill

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Doc91478 said:

Byron York: Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?


Roger Stone Asks for Evidence Russians Hacked DNC Server
May 13, 2019 ~ By Byron York
A huge controversy erupted last year when President Trump declassified parts of the FBI's secret request to wiretap former Trump campaign volunteer foreign policy adviser Carter Page. Defenders and critics of the president argued over whether the October 2016 warrant application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court relied extensively on the so-called Steele dossier, which was a collection of anti-Trump allegations compiled by the former British spy Christopher Steele on behalf of the Hillary Clinton campaign.... Now, however, we have new evidence, in the form of the Mueller report, to evaluate the Page FISA application. We can ask: Was the information the FBI relied on true? Were the FBI's representations to the court accurate? The answers do not bode well for the bureau.
In the end, Baker might be right. It might have been entirely lawful to submit so much wrong information to the court and as a result be granted a warrant to wiretap a former Trump adviser in pursuit of a crime that had not actually occurred. And, given the extensive redactions, there is still much about the warrant that the public does not know.... that cannot create much confidence in the rest of the bureau's long and wide-ranging investigation of the president's 2016 campaign.


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Byron York has produced an excellent opinion piece that covers the Trump-Russia wiretap warrant. It appears that between the fiction written in the Steele Dossier, the lack of investiaging the DNC so called hacking breach and reliance on the FISA application based upon the Dossier, there's a lot of wrong decisions along the way both in the FBI and further still in the Mueller report where there was dependence upon the incompetent results stemming from the FBI.
AS those within Judicial Watch have repeated stated, "It time to investigate the Investigators."

See also: Mueller report proves that it's time to investigate the investigators | TheHill

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Doc91478 said:

Byron York: Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?


Roger Stone Asks for Evidence Russians Hacked DNC Server
May 13, 2019 ~ By Byron York
A huge controversy erupted last year when President Trump declassified parts of the FBI's secret request to wiretap former Trump campaign volunteer foreign policy adviser Carter Page. Defenders and critics of the president argued over whether the October 2016 warrant application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court relied extensively on the so-called Steele dossier, which was a collection of anti-Trump allegations compiled by the former British spy Christopher Steele on behalf of the Hillary Clinton campaign.... Now, however, we have new evidence, in the form of the Mueller report, to evaluate the Page FISA application. We can ask: Was the information the FBI relied on true? Were the FBI's representations to the court accurate? The answers do not bode well for the bureau.
In the end, Baker might be right. It might have been entirely lawful to submit so much wrong information to the court and as a result be granted a warrant to wiretap a former Trump adviser in pursuit of a crime that had not actually occurred. And, given the extensive redactions, there is still much about the warrant that the public does not know.... that cannot create much confidence in the rest of the bureau's long and wide-ranging investigation of the president's 2016 campaign.


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Byron York has produced an excellent opinion piece that covers the Trump-Russia wiretap warrant. It appears that between the fiction written in the Steele Dossier, the lack of investiaging the DNC so called hacking breach and reliance on the FISA application based upon the Dossier, there's a lot of wrong decisions along the way both in the FBI and further still in the Mueller report where there was dependence upon the incompetent results stemming from the FBI.
AS those within Judicial Watch have repeated stated, "It time to investigate the Investigators."

See also: Mueller report proves that it's time to investigate the investigators | TheHill

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pinqy said:

What are you saying the FBI was wrong about? How could they know which larts of the Steele dossier were true (and yes some claims have been confirmed) and which not without investigating? How were the supposed to know whether or not collusion occurred without investigating?

An investigation is not a claim that the person being investigated is guilty of anything.

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Doc91478 said:

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I don't believe that York is discussing the FBI in general. It's aimed at certain individuals no longer working, associated or affiliated with the FBI that were deeply involved in the investigation of the Russian Collusion and the failed coup d' etat in this sordid business as well as the DNC server breach that they have refused the FBI to be investigate. One has to wonder why the DNC would refuse to allow the premier law enforcement agency to investigate a possible National Security violation. What criminal acts were they hiding?
If situations were reversed and instead of the DNC it was the RNC that got hacked and refused the FBI investigation, would you still pass that incident over?

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pinqy said:

What are you talking about? The FBI thoroughly examined the hacking of DNC. Wait...you don’t think they would need the physical servers, you? The machines were images and that’s what the FBI got. Which is what they would have done with the physical machines: images them and work off of that.

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Doc91478 said:

DNC server was never examined by FBI in investigation of ‘hacking’
DNC server was never examined by FBI in investigation of ‘hacking’
Jan 05, 2017 · Six months after the FBI first said it was investigating the hack of the Democratic National Committee’s computer network, the bureau has still not requested access to the hacked servers, a DNC …In yet another sign that the “Russia hacked the election” narrative is phony, Buzzfeed is reporting that the FBI never even bothered to ask for the DNC server for forensic analysis. Ali Watkins reports,,,, This strongly suggests that the conclusion that Russia “hacked” (the correct term would be “phished”) the server preceded the examination of evidence, since the evidence still has not yet been fully examined.

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pinqy said:

Why would they need to look at the physical servers? If they had, they would have just images the machines and done the forensics on the copies. Crowd strike imaged the machines and turned them over to the FBI.

Why do you think it makes a difference who imaged the machines? If Crowdstrike had tried to add or remove anything, that would be clear.

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Doc91478 said:

This strongly suggests that the conclusion that Russia “hacked” (the correct term would be “phished”) the server preceded the examination of evidence, since the evidence still has not yet been fully examined. Did Crowdstrike turn over their forensic work records to the FBI that is the question?

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