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Gaugingcatenate said:
Are you joking or lost?
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actually, neither. I am merely refuting the false premise of the OP.

You having to resort to repeated insults and digs demonstrates far more about you than it does to refute my simple claim that has been verified with evidence.

Now, answer [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]MY QUESTIONS[/FONT]. Or go blow your wad elsewhere.

Oh, and as to that reading comp thing, need to READ, READ AGAIN, READ A THIRD OR 4TH TIME AS NECESSARY. TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND YOU for godsakes.

This is a debate site, btw, not a we all have to listen incessantly, continuously, repetitively to bloviated blather from lost leftists site. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Your so called questions are meant to support a false premise. And five hundred questions doing that still do not make it a true premise.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]There is no need to debate how much two plus two is when a person takes the position that it is five and then offers paragraphs of support for that false premise. One only need to expose the false premise and the rest can be consigned to the trash heap. [/FONT]
 
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haymarket said:
actually, neither. I am merely refuting the false premise of the OP.

You having to resort to repeated insults and digs demonstrates far more about you than it does to refute my simple claim that has been verified with evidence.
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Sorry, wrong.

Was a completely valid question to which I already have the answer, just trying to assist you with your challenge in figuring it out.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Sorry, wrong.

Was a completely valid question to which I already have the answer, just trying to assist you with your challenge in figuring it out.
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Denying that Trump is from the elite is simply an embracing of a falsehood and that has been amply demonstrated.
 
Sweden said:
Of course it does not. One can have the qualifications for being one of the elite without being elitist. Moreover Trump's base, from which he derives his support, and thence his power, is most clearly anti-elitist.
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I'm not seeing anything that he has done for voters over donors.

Can you point out anything he has done for US at THEIR expense.

Because it just looks like the same old "give those who want money more than anything as much as they want and they'll share" nonsense we've been hearing from republicans for decades.

All the same "all carrot, no stick" approaches. Just tax and regulation cuts with no strings attached.

Hoping they will do what they never do.
 
Pedestrian said:
Trump is the very essence of the American entitled elitist. Entitled to inherit $400 million, entitled for that to be tax free,

entitled to loans to build two competing casinos within 2 miles of each other and then entitled not to pay his contractors

then further entitled to suck million$ off their creation yet walk away in bankruptcy upon the inevitable failure.
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He was entitled by law, the exact same laws that you have. If you knew anything about business you would understand.

I ask you was GM entitled to billions of taxpayer money to be bailed out costing the taxpayer 11.2 billion. Was Solyndra entitled to 500 million of taxpayer money to build solar panels that failed costing the taxpayer 500 million.
 
haymarket said:
Denying that Trump is from the elite is simply an embracing of a falsehood and that has been amply demonstrated.
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You can fantasize your way into and out of anything you want. You only prove you have not a clue as to the reality. If Trump were in bed with the elite, everything he did and wanted to do would slide right on through like a hot knife through warm butter... but they hate him, and you folks are now the ones in bed with, and apparently love them.

But this insufferable looping stuff has become like the movie Groundhog Day.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
You can fantasize your way into and out of anything you want. You only prove you have not a clue as to the reality. If Trump were in bed with the elite, everything he did and wanted to do would slide right on through like a hot knife through warm butter... but they hate him, and you folks are now the ones in bed with, and apparently love them.

But this insufferable looping stuff has become like the movie Groundhog Day.
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Trump is a member of the elite. He was born into it and he furthers their economic agenda with his policies. Denial of that is simply folly.
 
haymarket said:
Trump is a member of the elite. He was born into it and he furthers their economic agenda with his policies. Denial of that is simply folly.
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Not even worth it... and you know it. If not, that is not something of which to be proud. Yano? No, seemingly you do not.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Not even worth it... and you know it. If not, that is not something of which to be proud. Yano? No, seemingly you do not.
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No doubt Trump is indeed proud of using his high office to enrich himself with tax cuts. I do not question that pride of accomplishment for a minute and neither should anyone else.
 
haymarket said:
No doubt Trump is indeed proud of using his high office to enrich himself with tax cuts. I do not question that pride of accomplishment for a minute and neither should anyone else.
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It that Charlie Brown's teacher talking again? Bwock.. bwock bwok bwok bwok...
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
It that Charlie Brown's teacher talking again? Bwock.. bwock bwok bwok bwok...
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Your comment makes no rational sense on any level as a pretended reply to what I wrote about Trump and his policies favoring his own elite economic class.
 
haymarket said:
Stop right there. Trump got where he is today largely through birth and wealth. So your premise dies a hard death just feet out of the gate.
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I think his post was an homage to the inept and unqualified finally getting a chance to lead. Yes Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth but never before have we seen a man of such incompetence win the Whitehouse so he has a point. Trump is unique.
 
iguanaman said:
I think his post was an homage to the inept and unqualified finally getting a chance to lead. Yes Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth but never before have we seen a man of such incompetence win the Whitehouse so he has a point. Trump is unique.
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Warren G. Harding would have given Trump a run for his money as far as competence went. But I agree with you - Trump is the champ chump based on pure incompetence.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Look up Victor Davis Hanson. That piece is such a pantload, I don't even know where to start.
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That's a contradiction. If it was such a pantload (and it's all true) you could easily find a place to start.
 
Born Free said:
He was entitled by law, the exact same laws that you have. If you knew anything about business you would understand.

I ask you was GM entitled to billions of taxpayer money to be bailed out costing the taxpayer 11.2 billion. Was Solyndra entitled to 500 million of taxpayer money to build solar panels that failed costing the taxpayer 500 million.
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Oh please, not even a nice try. Come on you can do better than this. Or...maybe you can't, I don't really know.

This is about trump, his corruption and the corruption of the right...ALL elitist radical righties who support him,

are no longer morally or politically acceptable. It is very likely I know much more about business than you and

is a mere attempt to deflect.

That the state of NY and the feds will be discovering just what law allowed [his] inheritance and at what tax...the jury is still out.

Given trump's history there is very probable cause.

Geo. W Bush was the first to get a federal guarantee for loans GM and true to form,

and was not a cash handout and in fact...did not cost the taxpayers money.

Did you like TARP better ? W got that too.

Time to give up on the Solyndra loss as it was a few pennies on the dollar and there are such failures

under every pres. I know, I know we have FOX I am sure to thank for this rambling bull****.

Give it up, we have greedy, corrupt, capitalist scum in the WH and his new right wings brown nosers.

They have now lost all of what little moral bearings that they had left.
 
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Pedestrian said:
That's a contradiction. If it was such a pantload (and it's all true) you could easily find a place to start.
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Sorry, let me translate : It's not worth the bother. If you go back and read what that guy has written over the past 20 years or so, you'll get it. Start at the run-up to the Iraq war.

Edit : #11 was basically what my response is to the gist of what he wrote. His pretended position is laughable.
 
Pedestrian said:
Oh please, not even a nice try. Come on you can do better than this. Or...maybe you can't, I don't really know.

This is about trump, his corruption and the corruption of the right...ALL elitist radical righties who support him,

are no longer morally or politically acceptable. It is very likely I know much more about business than you and

is a mere attempt to deflect.

That the state of NY and the feds will be discovering just what law allowed [his] inheritance and at what tax...the jury is still out.

Given trump's history there is very probable cause.
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What you just posted is nothing but Bull S.

Geo. W Bush was the first to get a federal guarantee for loans GM and true to form,

and was not a cash handout and in fact...did not cost the taxpayers money.

Did you like TARP better ? W got that too.
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That was a loan, which means they have to pay it back.

Time to give up on the Solyndra loss as it was a few pennies on the dollar
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Yeah you want to give it up, because you're Obamafail lost 400 million of taxpayer dollars.

Give it up, we have greedy, corrupt, capitalist scum in the WH and his new right wings brown nosers.

They have now lost all of what little moral bearings that they had left.
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Those capitalist scum are the same capitalist at GM that Obamafail bailed out with 11.2 billion of taxpayer money the we taxpayers lost.

Try dealing in facts, instead of BS
 
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