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    Re: If the President lies...

    If Trump made a statement, and no one heard it, would it still be a lie?

    It's not that no president ever lied before Trump. It's that no president, or anyone else in public life that I can think of, ever lied so frequently, persistently, and blatantly.

    If Trump says it's raining, I'll check outside before I get out my umbrella.

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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I agree completely. It wasn't the BJ. It was the lying to Congress. We have lowered the bar so much with respect to what we expect from our Presidents that it's really no wonder that we have a lying buffoon as President. We deserve the idiot.
    Worse was Bush lying to sell his invasion. Honorable mention to Obama for claiming to be fixing the medical system as he pretended to not notice its main flaw, and did nothing about it.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by bearpoker View Post
    If Trump made a statement, and no one heard it, would it still be a lie?

    It's not that no president ever lied before Trump. It's that no president, or anyone else in public life that I can think of, ever lied so frequently, persistently, and blatantly.

    If Trump says it's raining, I'll check outside before I get out my umbrella.
    He was Trash Talking Trump as he asked for the job .

    We picked him.

    Enough said.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    You guys never batted an eye when Obama lied. So, really? And does it even count as a "lie" when it's a gross mischaracterization by leftist morons, of something the president said? You people have cried wolf so many times, I no longer believe ANYTHING the propaganda wing of the Democrat party says.
    You can "keep your lies" and still save $2500.00 annually.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    He was Trash Talking Trump as he asked for the job .

    We picked him.

    Enough said.
    Agreed! He never made a secret of what he was. Some people just didn't see it. Others did, but voted for him anyway because they thought the system needed shaking up. I just hope the Democrats wake up one of these days and start connecting with people like they used to.

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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    You can "keep your lies" and still save $2500.00 annually.
    Exactly. ****ing hypocrites, the lot of 'em.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Worse was Bush lying to sell his invasion. Honorable mention to Obama for claiming to be fixing the medical system as he pretended to not notice its main flaw, and did nothing about it.
    yep. All those dead kids and dead iraqi civilians are on Bush's hands.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Worse was Bush lying to sell his invasion. Honorable mention to Obama for claiming to be fixing the medical system as he pretended to not notice its main flaw, and did nothing about it.
    I don't think Obama ever thought Obamacare was perfect. Just better than what we had before. I agree that the corners Bush cut in selling the invasion were terrible, with dreadful results. At least Trumps constant lies rebound mainly on himself. For the next 3 1/2 years we won't get anything done with anyone because everyone knows that Trump in an unreliable negotiating partner. Hopefully, the body count will be minimal.

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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by bearpoker View Post
    Agreed! He never made a secret of what he was. Some people just didn't see it. Others did, but voted for him anyway because they thought the system needed shaking up. I just hope the Democrats wake up one of these days and start connecting with people like they used to.
    When he had not changed by the end of may 2016 it was clear to me that he was not going to...when he had not changed by the convention everyone should have known. This is who we wanted, the Elite Class dont get to veto our choice just because Trump refuses to follow their style, that is to say refuses to act "Presidential", not after all of the lies and bad work they have handed in over the years.
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    Re: If the President lies...

    Quote Originally Posted by bearpoker View Post
    I don't think Obama ever thought Obamacare was perfect. Just better than what we had before. I agree that the corners Bush cut in selling the invasion were terrible, with dreadful results. At least Trumps constant lies rebound mainly on himself. For the next 3 1/2 years we won't get anything done with anyone because everyone knows that Trump in an unreliable negotiating partner. Hopefully, the body count will be minimal.
    He said he was fixing healthcare, he made the problem worse.....this was never about fixing how our broken healthcare system is bankrupting the nation for him, this was about social justice to him.

    As my friend Chomsky said somewhere yesterday Obama is a smart well spoken thinker....but he is lazy, does not mind lying about important things to the nation, and he has bad judgment.

    And look where we are now....
    Last edited by Hawkeye10; 08-02-17 at 03:51 PM.
    The vigor of a society is directly proportional to its capacity to conduct difficult conversations.

    VICTIM CULTURE IS WRECKING A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS, TO INCLUDE GUTS AND RESILIENCE.

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