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Comey: Higher-ups never asked for halt to FBI investigations

Slyfox696 said:
Comey did report it to other members of the FBI. So he did report it, just not to DOJ officials. Which, as the lawyer said, he's not required to do.
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By the statute he is required to report it to someone of authority. he didn't do it.

Not by definition. By definition, concealment would mean intentionally hiding the conversation. Comey shared notes about the conversation and wrote an official memo about the conversation which he shared with other members of the FBI.
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He did. He stuck it in his desk for 3 months. that is by definition concealment. you forget the 2nd clause which is as soon as possible. 3 months is not as soon as possible.
1 day -1 week, maybe 2 weeks at max 3 months no.

By definition, Comey did not conceal.
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sure he did. if he thought it was obstruction he had a duty to report it as soon as possible he didn't do it.
had they not gone through is stuff they never would have found the memo. hence why they are calling him to testify.
also we don't have the full memo. we have pieces of the memo.

Actually, if you look up the definition of the word: "keep (something) secret; prevent from being known or noticed."
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No one knew about it for 3 months thanks for supporting my argument.

Comey didn't do that. He shared it with other members of the FBI.
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only after someone found the memo that was being hid. 3 months later is no as soon as possible.

We established long ago the use of fallacies are not your friend. What exactly do you feel is circular logic?
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Your opinion is well not fact, and actually they are. easy his definition of concealment is correct because he says it is correct
that is circular logic.

Again, Comey shared it immediately with others in the FBI.
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3 months later is not immediately. that would be the next day maybe that week.

Not according to the "Charles I. Francis Professor in Law and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of Texas School of Law."
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His opinion his is his opinion that doesn't make it the correct one. confirmation bias is well not an argument either which is what you are doing.

You'll excuse me if I find his opinion more credible than yours.
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it isn't my opinion it is what the law says and in fact what members of congress are saying.
and I find their opinion more credible than yours.

Why? He's no longer part of the FBI.
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he proved himself incompetent at handling the Hillary case. He no longer has any credibility to handle the position in a non-political manner.
in fact liberals wanted him fired as well for the same thing. it was in the paper so it was fairly obvious why he fired.

Comey has never said that. He wrote the memo at the time and someone else released it...Comey hasn't spoken about it yet.
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Please read what I wrong I never said that he said that. that is a strawman argument. I said if he felt that obstruction was going on he should have
reported it immediately. not some hidden memo that someone found that has not been fully released. that is why he is in trouble.
he failed to report it as soon as possible.

And he did. As the attorney mentions, there's no requirement for him to report it to the DOJ. And, given what was happening in the DOJ, with Sally Yates being fired, Sessions having to recuse himself (as well as being part of the Trump campaign, which the FBI was investigating) and there being no Deputy Attorney General until less than a month ago, it's not hard at all to understand why Comey shared with others in the FBI and said, "good enough".
Not according to the "Charles I. Francis Professor in Law and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of Texas School of Law."
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Cool then who did he report it too? name time etc.. please provide this information. and not 3 months later in a memo that someone found.

yates should have been fired she failed to do her job and what her boss asked her to do.
session recusing himself was proper in that situation. otherwise it would have appeared a conflict of interest.

pure ethical. something that has finally been restored to the DOJ after 8 years of Obama.

and I will trust the law over his opinion and I will trust what member of congress are saying over his opinion as well.
and more so over you opinion any day of the week.


And, again, I'll trust his word more than yours, for obvious reasons.[/QUOTE]
 
hanger4 said:
Seems like an old fashion "Sessions" stand off.

You have to understand what question Sessions was answering.
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Congratulations, you've crafted the least coherent response I've seen this week.
ttwtt78640 said:
Really? It was hard to remember that minor time when he was asked to stop an investigation by the POTUS? ;)
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That's exactly my point. The President asked him to stop an investigation...but Congress didn't ask him if the President had asked him to stop, they asked him if the DOJ ever had. Which is why it is important to know what question Comey was asked by Congress.
ludin said:
only after someone found the memo that was being hid...No one knew about it for 3 months
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This right here tells me everything I need to know about your understanding of this situation. Please go review why you are wrong here and why it torpedos your entire position. Thanks.

Here's some quick reading for you:

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates.

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After writing up a memo that outlined the meeting, Mr. Comey shared it with senior F.B.I. officials.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html

Now that you understand you are wrong, I hope you can understand why you are wrong.
 
hanger4 said:
The only incoherence is on your behalf by not seeing the similarity between Sessions supposed lie to Congress and Comey's supposed lie to Congress.
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I wasn't talking about Sessions. Which is why your response was incoherent. You were responding to something I never said.
 
Lotta 'guardhouse ' lawyers here.
 
iguanaman said:
Writing the memo was reporting it. Perhaps he thought that Trump misspoke and gave him the benefit of the doubt at least until he fired him for not dropping the investigation. That act was the actual obstruction and the memo is the proof. The memo was merely an ATTEMPT at obstruction because Comey knew he wasn't going to listen to it. In fact if Comey had made a big deal of it at the time Trump would undoubtedly have said he was just joking with him. He's done that before.
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No it wasn't. If I wrote something like I know who murdered someone and sticking it in my pocket is not reporting. Giving the note to a superior or posting it on the internet is reporting.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I wasn't talking about Sessions. Which is why your response was incoherent. You were responding to something I never said.
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Again, you fail to see/understand the similarity between the two supposed lies to Congress.
 
hanger4 said:
Again, you fail to see/understand the similarity between the two supposed lies to Congress.
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Again, you are posting something incoherent. No one has said Comey lied before Congress and I wasn't talking about Jeff Sessions. In fact, Jeff Sessions had nothing to do with what I said to ttwtt.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Really? It was hard to remember that minor time when he was asked to stop an investigation by the POTUS? ;)
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If the OP's quote is correct, the asker specifically limits the question to the bosses @ DoJ. No one with even a small understanding of laws and courts answers anything other than the question asked. They are very careful to answer the question and add nothing. Want to know about the President, ask about the President. This is all based on the Op having his **** in order......
 
I cannot believe that people are so committed to their hatred of TTTRRRRRUUUUUMMMMMMPPPPPP!!!! that they would see this directly spoken sentence...

"But I’m talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience."

And honestly believe that he was parsing to protect the president. Thats some serious willful ignorance there...I mean...you have to be truly committed.
 
VanceMack said:
I cannot believe that people are so committed to their hatred of TTTRRRRRUUUUUMMMMMMPPPPPP!!!! that they would see this directly spoken sentence...

"But I’m talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience."

And honestly believe that he was parsing to protect the president. Thats some serious willful ignorance there...I mean...you have to be truly committed.
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Parsing to "protect" the President? No, I don't think he was trying to protect the President. I think he was directly and truthfully answering the question, while avoiding answering in a way which could potentially hinder or compromise the FBI investigation. Comey has a long history of repeatedly stating he does not wish to discuss details about ongoing investigations.

It wasn't about protecting the President, but rather answering truthfully and protecting the investigation.
 
Rexedgar said:
If the OP's quote is correct, the asker specifically limits the question to the bosses @ DoJ. No one with even a small understanding of laws and courts answers anything other than the question asked. They are very careful to answer the question and add nothing. Want to know about the President, ask about the President. This is all based on the Op having his **** in order......
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Then why answer a yes or no question with more than either yes or no? ;)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
You also have to understand the spirit of the question.
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I've read the entire context of the quote. I'm also very familiar with the fact Comey has repeatedly taken the position he does not discuss details about ongoing investigations. Furthermore, Comey would have no knowledge of private conversations between the Attorney General and the President.

There was nothing in the context which suggested the President was included in the question.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Again, you are posting something incoherent. No one has said Comey lied before Congress and I wasn't talking about Jeff Sessions. In fact, Jeff Sessions had nothing to do with what I said to ttwtt.
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Nevermind Slyfox696, the OP link is there for all to see.
 
iguanaman said:
Writing the memo was reporting it. Perhaps he thought that Trump misspoke and gave him the benefit of the doubt at least until he fired him for not dropping the investigation. That act was the actual obstruction and the memo is the proof. The memo was merely an ATTEMPT at obstruction because Comey knew he wasn't going to listen to it. In fact if Comey had made a big deal of it at the time Trump would undoubtedly have said he was just joking with him. He's done that before.
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Horse****. I have a paper file and a computer file full of MFRs over the last 8 years that no one has ever seen, nor will they likely ever see, because they are documenting important exchanges that I can refer to if need be but only if need be. They ARE however official documents and are capable of being subpoenaed. All of them. but writing an MFR does not = 'reporting it'.
 
hanger4 said:
Nevermind Slyfox696, the OP link is there for all to see.
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Yes, and it doesn't mention Sessions at all. Nor is there any suggestion Comey lied.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Then why answer a yes or no question with more than either yes or no? ;)
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That's best for another thread. Maybe that's where the 'showboat' part comes in. But I detect a deflection, I think it's called away from the original issue/OP.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Parsing to "protect" the President? No, I don't think he was trying to protect the President. I think he was directly and truthfully answering the question, while avoiding answering in a way which could potentially hinder or compromise the FBI investigation. Comey has a long history of repeatedly stating he does not wish to discuss details about ongoing investigations.

It wasn't about protecting the President, but rather answering truthfully and protecting the investigation.
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I think you all are being intentionally and willfully dishonest...you are that committed to your hatred. Its a bit ridiculous...but not at all shocking anymore.
 
VanceMack said:
Horse****. I have a paper file and a computer file full of MFRs over the last 8 years that no one has ever seen, nor will they likely ever see, because they are documenting important exchanges that I can refer to if need be but only if need be. They ARE however official documents and are capable of being subpoenaed. All of them. but writing an MFR does not = 'reporting it'.
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Comey shared the memo with other FBI officials. It was not a document stuffed in a drawer which no one else saw. He wrote the memo and shared it with other department officials.
VanceMack said:
I think you all are being intentionally and willfully dishonest...you are that committed to your hatred. Its a bit ridiculous...but not at all shocking anymore.
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I think you know you're wrong but cannot bring yourself to admit it, so you instead commit to a personal attack rather than dispute the very clear logic presented in my post.

It seems to be a pattern for those supporting Trump, since arguing with facts never seems to work out. Oh, and I don't hate Trump. I'm not a "NeverTrump" guy.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Comey shared the memo with other FBI officials. It was not a document stuffed in a drawer which no one else saw. He wrote the memo and shared it with other department officials.

I think you know you're wrong but cannot bring yourself to admit it, so you instead commit to a personal attack rather than dispute the very clear logic presented in my post.

It seems to be a pattern for those supporting Trump, since arguing with facts never seems to work out. Oh, and I don't hate Trump. I'm not a "NeverTrump" guy.
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Ridiculous.

"But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason. That would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience."

So in your mind...he actually said...that would be a very big deal...and it never happened. form anyone in the DOJ. But if it were from the president trying to obstruct for a political purpose, that wouldnt be abig deal and it has happened...or rather...it has happened...but I didnt bother reporting it two months ago and didnt bring it up on May 3rd...but...still a big deal...but...not really...

Ridiculous. And sad that so many will compromise their own personal integrity to try to prove bias.
 
VanceMack said:
Horse****. I have a paper file and a computer file full of MFRs over the last 8 years that no one has ever seen, nor will they likely ever see, because they are documenting important exchanges that I can refer to if need be but only if need be. They ARE however official documents and are capable of being subpoenaed. All of them. but writing an MFR does not = 'reporting it'.
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MFRs are records of events and who is doing what. They can be used in reports and histories. Comey prepared the ground well.
 
VanceMack said:
Ridiculous.

"But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason. That would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience."

So in your mind...he actually said...that would be a very big deal...and it never happened. form anyone in the DOJ.
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Yes, and do you know why? Because that's what he said. And do you know how we know that's what he said? Because we have a transcript of what he said and the question to which he was responding.

I'm sorry if facts don't work well for your argument, but you cannot dispute facts and still sound intelligent.
But if it were from the president trying to obstruct for a political purpose
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He wasn't asked that.

that wouldnt be abig deal
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That's not my position. My position is that he wasn't asked about the President and Comey doesn't talk about ongoing investigations.

and it has happened
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We have the memo from Comey written immediately after the meeting which says it happened.
but I didnt bother reporting it two months ago
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He did report it to other FBI officials. Why would you post something untrue?

It's amazing how much reality you want to ignore in order to construct your alternative reality. You are literally saying we have to ignore the question Comey was asked, ignore the position Comey has consistently taken about discussing ongoing investigations, ignore the fact Comey wrote a memo immediately after his meeting, and ignore that he shared said memo he shared with other FBI officials. In order to hold your position, one has to ignore ALL of that.

Talk about compromising personal integrity for partisanship.
 
JamesBY said:
MFRs are records of events and who is doing what. They can be used in reports and histories. Comey prepared the ground well.
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You arent responding to either my comment or iguana's...I'm not sure what you actually are responding to.
 
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