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Why the Comey firing could be Trump’s Watergate moment

ocean515 said:
Does the left's MSM partners at the NYT, WaPo, etc., explain how Comey's firing is going to stop the investigation in the Senate and House?
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In flames, 515, in flames.

To vainglorious posthumous retirement - and good riddance ...
 
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Skeptic Bob said:
"APPEARANCE of impropriety"

You just see what you want to see in my posts, don't you?
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Oh what a grin! Do you ever ask yourself why we take the bait when we already know the outcome? My friend Pigeon did the same thing during every one of our chess games. Pigeon never won a game, but always crapped all over the board and strutted around like a winner.
 
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nota bene said:
Based on the opinions I've read of Pence here at DP, I don't believe this would end anything. Too many people are forming opinions based on the daily talking points of the MSM because they are so hopeful that something, anything, will stick. And I think that this is pointlessly destructive and therefore bad for the nation. I was not a Trump supporter, but he is now the President, and I want every President to succeed. I said this in 2008 and also, right here at DP, in 2012.
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Sounds dreamy, but in my experience having a terror in charge of so many important things, causes real and lasting damage that may last for many people, a lifetime (or more). The sooner he's out, the better. God forbid we get into a serious conflict before then. I've seen first hand what sort of lasting damage a complete idiot with power can do, and I want no part of it. Hell, put Rubio, Kasich, Pence, I don't care, pull Bush back, anyone with half a brain and some relevant connections and experience. I gave Trump the benfit of the doubt for about 4 weeks, but he squandered his honeymoon so fast it made my head spin. The polls all show the same depressing thing.

The only good that will come of this is that we'll see just how bad an elected president can be, and it will help us put more limits/checks on the presidency in the future, sort of like a stress test.
 
reinoe said:
Firing Comey could be just the impetus the Democrats needed to cry like babies for the next 8 years of Trump's presidency!
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Your sadism is showing. that's why you love Trump correct? He makes people you hate, cry.
This show will definitely end in tears.
 
reinoe said:
Firing Comey could be just the impetus the Democrats needed to cry like babies for the next 8 years of Trump's presidency!
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Did Trump prove his Genius yet again by providing more Red Meat for his zealous fan base? At what point can Trump boast confidently how his Leadership has unquestionably Made America Great Again?
 
If there is any decency in America, Donald Dork will finally get his comeuppance.

In the history of the US, he is sixth PotUS to have been elected with a loss of the Popular Vote (and a margin of 2%!), which most countries find incompatible for any real-democracy ...
 
Fletch said:
There is no evidence, this is not Watergate, this is liberal CT nonsense. The 'Birthers' and the 'Truthers' have a new member: the 'Colluders.' It must be getting crowded in the loony bin
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Wow, what pathetic blindness to apparent facts.

Just learn to read English ... ?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Stuff that occurred after the election is unlikely to have affected the election, an obvious exception being evidence of a payoff. Many seem to think that Trump policy changes toward Russia are proof of such a payoff - a clever way, indeed, to say that deviation from Obama's Russian policy must be (is?) evidence of criminal conduct. The premise that if one "had contact" with a criminal means that they "must have been" participating in criminal activity is weak at best and simple harassment at worst. To prove collusion (criminal conspiracy?) one must have more proof than mere contact - it is obvious that many of these Russian "agents" were also having contact with folks in the Obama administration.
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Those are not the main contention.

Which is that there was "collusion" between the Russkies and Trump advisers during the election. (Yes, which remains to be proven.)

From the original article I posted:
Mounting evidence that multiple members of the Trump campaign were in direct contact with Russian intelligence in the runup to the election — and in several cases subsequently lied about it — has been at the center of a simmering scandal that Trump has been unable to shake.
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Of course, that must be proven beyond a doubt, but if verified, it changes everything ...
 
Lafayette said:
Wow, what pathetic blindness to apparent facts.
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When you post some real facts and not those labelled 'apparent facts' let me know.

Just learn to read English ... ?
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As far as attacks go, that's pretty lame. Try harder Frenchy.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Please keep us updated regarding how your French neighbors feel about the Trump Phenomena. I genuinely hope Trump does not finish his term.
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Shortly after the election, I was asked numerous times by French friends "How could that have possibly happen?".

You see, not only the French, but anybody within a real-democracy cannot understand how the popular-vote can be "tricked". And despite my explanations regarding the Electoral College, they fall on deaf ears.

In fact, the historical reason for the EC is that at the turn of the 19th century most Americans could not read and write. Some people in DC thought that there might be "manipulation of the masses". So, they devised the Electoral College.

Regardless of the EC's origins, only the popular-vote can be the real determinant of any free and honest election. The US must rid-itself of a dangerous interference to a fundamental democratic institution - the popular-vote of political representation.

Period ...
 
Fenton said:
This is in the wrong section. We have a designated sub forum for tin hattery such as this thread.
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I'm sure you'd like to bury-it beyond reach.

So typical ...
 
Lafayette said:
If there is any decency in America, Donald Dork will finally get his comeuppance.

In the history of the US, he is sixth PotUS to have been elected with a loss of the Popular Vote (and a margin of 2%!), which most countries find incompatible for any real-democracy ...
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This isnt France or the UK or Germany and the Eurotrash that likes to pass judgement on the US and things they clearly havent the competence to conprehend should keep their noses out of our bussiness.
 
Fletch said:
When you post some real facts and not those labelled 'apparent facts' let me know.
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As regards the facts, the article speaks for itself.

You have every right not to believe them, because the investigations are only in their preliminary stages.

But, this "story" has legs. We shall see ...
 
Lafayette said:
Those are not the main contention.

Which is that there was "collusion" between the Russkies and Trump advisers during the election. (Yes, which remains to be proven.)

From the original article I posted:

Of course, that must be proven beyond a doubt, but if verified, it changes everything ...
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You are equating mere contact with evidence of criminal conspiracy. It is not illegal for US folks, even if involved in a campaign, to talk to foreign citizens. You may well be able to prove that I talked to a criminal but that is a far cry from proving that I helped them, or asked them, to commit a crime.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Did Trump prove his Genius yet again by providing more Red Meat for his zealous fan base? At what point can Trump boast confidently how his Leadership has unquestionably Made America Great Again?
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Trump's firing of Comey makes America great! Trump has done 100% of everything I wanted and he's also did what Democrats asked him to do. Democrats asked for Comey to be fired and so Trump fired COmey. I suspect the Democrats will be voting for him in 2020 just like they did in 2016.
 
Lafayette said:
As regards the facts, the article speaks for itself.

You have every right not to believe them, because the investigations are only in their preliminary stages.

But, this "story" has legs. We shall see ...
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If this "story" had legs, you wouldn't have put it in quotation marks. The Russian investigation is nothing more than a fishing expedition.
 
Lafayette said:
Shortly after the election, I was asked numerous times by French friends "How could that have possibly happen?".

You see, not only the French, but anybody within a real-democracy cannot understand how the popular-vote can be "tricked". And despite my explanations regarding the Electoral College, they fall on deaf ears.

In fact, the historical reason for the EC is that at the turn of the 19th century most Americans could not read and write. Some people in DC thought that there might be "manipulation of the masses". So, they devised the Electoral College.

Regardless of the EC's origins, only the popular-vote can be the real determinant of any free and honest election. The US must rid-itself of a dangerous interference to a fundamental democratic institution - the popular-vote of political representation.

Period ...
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LOL

Yet, with Constitution firmly in place, the United States has risen above any other country in the World.

Jealousy does bring out it's detractors.
 
Anyone who would suggest that the investigation of Russian collusion is equivalent to trutherism and birtherism operates from confirmation bias.

The investigations are trying to put confirmation bias pro or con to rest with objective evidence and critical investigation.

Comey was the latest casuality of the Trump confirmation bias that he is untouchable by and unaccountable to anyone.
 
Lafayette said:
I'm sure you'd like to bury-it beyond reach.

So typical ...
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From 2 days ago..

Fienstein and Manchin : No evidence of Russian collusion.
Dianne Feinstein & Joe Manchin admit: No evidence of Trump/Russia collusion

Im not trying to bury anything. Its just we have a subforum for silly conspiracy nonsense backed by " appparent facts " ( your words )
Its called the Conspiracy section. You can post this silliness where it belongs, right along with the threads that claim the US never went to the moon
 
Fenton said:
This isnt France or the UK or Germany and the Eurotrash that likes to pass judgement on the US and things they clearly havent the competence to conprehend should keep their noses out of our bussiness.
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Jesus Christ, Fenton.
Did you just call our gentleman poster from France "eurotrash"?
What's wrong with you? So unwelcoming...:shock:
 
JamesBY said:
Anyone who would suggest that the investigation of Russian collusion is equivalent to trutherism and birtherism operates from confirmation bias.

The investigations are trying to put confirmation bias pro or con to rest with objective evidence and critical investigation.

Comey was the latest casuality of the Trump confirmation bias that he is untouchable by and unaccountable to anyone.
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Pot meet kettle.
From 2 days ago.....
Fienstein and Manchin : No evidence of Russian Collusion
Dianne Feinstein & Joe Manchin admit: No evidence of Trump/Russia collusion
 
RickJames3000 said:
Jesus Christ, Fenton.
Did you just call our gentleman poster from France "eurotrash"?
What's wrong with you? So unwelcoming...:shock:
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If I did you wouldn't have to ask now would you ?
 
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