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Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Felis Leo said:
If there were as many genuine Nazis (violent, anti-democratic, ultranationalist white-supremacists) in the United States as would be needed to win seats, the United States would have ceased to be a democracy years ago, and untermenschen like me and political dissidents like you would have been placed on the train to Auschwitz a long time ago.
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or they could just vote for dog whistlers.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Do conservatives have any answers that involve actual self reflection or will they talk about some offensive nonsense theories of African Americans wanting to stay on the Democratic "plantation":

https://medium.com/@SamMcKenzieJr/my-god-if-i-hear-democratic-plantation-one-more-time-41842277249b

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-conservatives-favorite-slurs/?outputType=amp
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Could be because they did not receive their official wealthy white privilege black validation stamp in time for election day .
Do'h !
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Bodhisattva said:
Not butantifa...


It is andantifa...
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Do they have good pitch ins? We're still doing social distancing, but i know a great hash brown casserole recipe.
 
Are you aware that blacks were granted full citizenship in 1866 (with the passing of the 14th amendment's "Citizenship Clause") a mere one year after the end of a 4 year conflict where well over a half million people died (and yes-get over it-on both sides of the issue) that addressed that, and that the Democrats (the party you obviously vote for if in fact you are even old enough to exercise that privilege) inhibited that for well over 100 years after it was granted to a large extent, in the Solid (Democratic)South (operative word being Democrat!).
 
jaypatriot said:
You must have found sections in our U.S. Constitution that are specifically designed to deprive blacks of the right to pursue their happiness. If you are black and you are a citizen of this country, then you are in Biden's pocket. You don't even have to think about who to vote for. You're locked into the Democratic Party like people on heroin.
Biden, Pelosi and Chucky Schumer are your best friends because you know they have your interests at heart.
Just vote for them and your life will become so much better.
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Despite your cynicism, that about describes it. Much as business leaders who exploit their workers vote republican.
 
Ginza said:
African-Americans, just like voters in other nations who are part of less wealthy communities, tend to vote for the Party that offers the most in government handouts.
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If that were true, then most Republicans would be Democrats.
 
I Love Shemp said:
Are you aware that blacks were granted full citizenship in 1866 (with the passing of the 14th amendment's "Citizenship Clause") a mere one year after the end of a 4 year conflict where well over a half million people died (and yes-get over it-on both sides of the issue) that addressed that, and that the Democrats (the party you obviously vote for if in fact you are even old enough to exercise that privilege) inhibited that for well over 100 years after it was granted to a large extent, in the Solid (Democratic)South (operative word being Democrat!).
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And are you also aware that the DNC started to move away from its racist past and the party was divided into the Democrats who were for Civil Rights and the Dixiecrats who wanted to maintain the white supremacy over the South...and it was the Republicans, in an effort to win back the South used Nixon's Southern Strategy where they used racist fearmongering to get the Dixiecrats to switch to the GOP and was successful in doing so?

SO, you are aware that the Republicans used racism to win back the South, abandoned their former ideals, fought against Civil Rights and became the party for white nationalists by absorbing those very same racists that you pointed out were trying to fight minority rights and were formerly of the DNC, known as the Dixiecrats...right?
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Do conservatives have any answers that involve actual self reflection or will they talk about some offensive nonsense theories of African Americans wanting to stay on the Democratic "plantation":

https://medium.com/@SamMcKenzieJr/my-god-if-i-hear-democratic-plantation-one-more-time-41842277249b

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-conservatives-favorite-slurs/?outputType=amp
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Actions speak louder than words...the GOP, after being heroes for their involvements in freeing slaves, wound up being the party of racists. They became that when in the 60's/70's the GOP decided to woo the Dixiecrats, the racist portion of the DNC and succeeded in getting the Dixiecrats to switch parties and re-won the South. And it was the DNC that resolved to ditch its racist past and put itself behind the Civil Rights movement. And its pretty much been that way ever since.

When we look at the GOP today, and we see that they overwhelmingly support maintaining monuments to men who tried to keep slavery and to keep the Confederate battle flag flying...meanwhile, the DNC doesn't...it just further cements the point.

If the GOP wants to regain the trust of African Americans and get their votes again...they have to do what the DNC did and start to ditch the racist elements of their party, give up on the Confederate flag and monuments to Confederate leaders, decry white nationalism publicly and with great vigor and cast out anyone who still practices those things.

Believe it or not, it isn't about handouts. It really is about racism. And the GOP is the party of racists.
 
Jason Warfield said:
If that were true, then most Republicans would be Democrats.
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Incorrect. More of the less wealthy voters voted for Clinton in the last election :

Mrs Clinton had the majority of voters on lower incomes, with 52% of those on incomes below $50,000 a year supporting her compared with 41% voting for her opponent.

Reality Check: Who voted for Donald Trump? - BBC News

Of the most wealthy Americans - 56% voted Republican and only 14% voted Democrat

Are America's Richest Families Republicans or Democrats?
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Do conservatives have any answers that involve actual self reflection or will they talk about some offensive nonsense theories of African Americans wanting to stay on the Democratic "plantation":

https://medium.com/@SamMcKenzieJr/my-god-if-i-hear-democratic-plantation-one-more-time-41842277249b

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-conservatives-favorite-slurs/?outputType=amp
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As seen with the democrat leftist wealthy white privilege gov. of Virginia they voted for the need for the validation of their own Blackness is so important of course :
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Yes_Minister said:
Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Do conservatives have any answers that involve actual self reflection or will they talk about some offensive nonsense theories of African Americans wanting to stay on the Democratic "plantation":

https://medium.com/@SamMcKenzieJr/my-god-if-i-hear-democratic-plantation-one-more-time-41842277249b

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-conservatives-favorite-slurs/?outputType=amp
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Do you ask why whites vote for the GOP or Democrats? The fact you ask assumes you want to stereotype black voting. Its a stupid question that assumes people vote based on their skin colour or ethnic status. You presume the answer then ask for one? You don't ask a question you pose a rhetorical comment that you questin why blacks will NOT vote for Trump. Do you really need to ask that? You can't figure out why many blacks not all, might find Trump and his comments offensive and they might not vote for him not just because he has uttered racist comments, but he has insulted humans, periods and any human might be fed up with his sewer politics? You think only blacks dislike him?

Really? What is your agenda singling out black voting patterns? Why the concern?
 
The thread starting question is not a question. Its a blanket statement posed as one. It is a statement that assumes people vote based on their skin colour or ethnic status and all vote the same way because of both and it asks us all to make the same generalization about blacks. Period.

The questioner could easily find out why people of any ethnicity or shade of grey, pink, brown, yellow, green, might not vote GOP but prefers to simply to focus and label all black voters with the statement planted in the question that it is questionable for blacks not to vote GOP. I call bull**** and reject the question as a couched passive aggressive statement designed to incite resentment against blacks for not supporting TRUMP and I call out the questioner as couching his reference to Trump using the term GOP.

Trump and his comments are offensive to many people NOT just African Americans so I call out the statement posed as a question as a crock.

As a Jew I do not automatically vote for someone simply because he is pro or anti Israel. Been there with that sterotype. The fact some of us are a minority does not mean we vote to people who pander us. Phack off with that stereotype. Phack off with any stereotype. We vote based on the policies and comments of the politician. If they say divisive, ignorant, racist, things, if they belittle people and engage in sewer talk and act abusively, we don't vote for them. If they show they have zero moral compass, we don't vote for them.

The questioner would have blacks all be lumped in one stereotype and inferred to think like sheep. The questioner needs to get a grip and understand the people who do not vote for Trump come in every variety.

How about I end it making this equally as pointless statement. The reason white people vote both Democrat and Republican is because the candidates for both are usually white. Whites didn't vote for Obama because he was black. Now what. What was the point? That someone needs inaccurate, simplistic tribal stereotypes to understand the political concerns of his fellow Americans?
 
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Nickyjo said:
Despite your cynicism, that about describes it. Much as business leaders who exploit their workers vote republican.
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Nickyjo

Why dont you become one of those business leaders?

Then you can show all of us HOW it is supposed to be done....

Apparently we exploit all of our workers....and you must be one of those 'slave" workers, right?

So why arent you one of the owners, and not a worker?
 
Jason Warfield said:
When we look at the GOP today, and we see that they overwhelmingly support maintaining monuments to men who tried to keep slavery and to keep the Confederate battle flag flying...meanwhile, the DNC doesn't...it just further cements the point.

If the GOP wants to regain the trust of African Americans and get their votes again...they have to do what the DNC did and start to ditch the racist elements of their party, give up on the Confederate flag and monuments to Confederate leaders, decry white nationalism publicly and with great vigor and cast out anyone who still practices those things.
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And we all believe that monuments are dangerous to all black people. Because they just stand there.
They cause nightmares because they represent Confederate heroes that hardly anyone knows about.
It's not about monuments, or paintings, or Founding Fathers who once owned slaves, or Christopher Columbus, or Mt Rushmore, or the KKK born of the Democrats.
It's really about frustration in the black community because of income inequality, thousands of black-on-black murders, millions of black children without fathers, millions of black out-of-wedlock births, and millions of incarcerated black men who got caught committing crimes.
If you have heard of and read articles from Jason Riley, Larry Elder, Candace Owen, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, and Shelby Steele, you will learn about the real causes of racial problems in this country.
Even that great and wonderful Social Justice Warrior, Obama, couldn't make a dent in hatred of blacks toward the American society. The problem goes a lot deeper than stupid statues and painting. They are simply excuses for black BLM mobs to get angry and burn down cities because all of the other problems in the black community (see above) have been, so far, unsolvable.
 
Mika-El said:
The questioner would have blacks all be lumped in one stereotype and inferred to think like sheep. The questioner needs to get a grip and understand the people who do not vote for Trump come in every variety.

How about I end it making this equally as pointless statement. The reason white people vote both Democrat and Republican is because the candidates for both are usually white. Whites didn't vote for Obama because he was black. Now what. What was the point? That someone needs inaccurate, simplistic tribal stereotypes to understand the political concerns of his fellow Americans?
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Mika
Very eloquent denunciation of the OP question.
But why do you think over 90 percent of the black vote went to Obama twice?
Was Obama the 'Second Coming' for black voters?
Sounds like sheep voting based on color of skin to me.
 
jaypatriot said:
Mika
Very eloquent denunciation of the OP question.
But why do you think over 90 percent of the black vote went to Obama twice?
Was Obama the 'Second Coming' for black voters?
Sounds like sheep voting based on color of skin to me.
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Maybe they are just smarter than you
 
Nickyjo said:
Despite your cynicism, that about describes it. Much as business leaders who exploit their workers vote republican.
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NIcky
If it weren't for Republican business leaders (and Dem entrepreneurs) we wouldn't have a country with the largest economy in the world. Or the most powerful military to defend citizens like you.
Who do you think pays taxes to fund everything we enjoy? The government?
The business of America is business. Not Social Justice. You should be thankful there are Republican businessmen who pay taxes so you can enjoy social benefits.
 
vegas giants said:
Maybe they are just smarter than you
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Well, they certainly knew that their black vote would help Obama get elected.
Just like Biden knows pandering to the blacks (with a black woman VP running mate) could very well put him over the top in the Electoral College.
Biden's not dumb. Remember, "If you don't know who to vote for, you're not black".
So, black voters know which side their bread is buttered on.
Just like Obama knew he had the vast majority of the black vote.
That doesn't take brains. It's takes racial prejudice against anyone who isn't black.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why do African Americans overwhelmingly vote against the GOP?

Do conservatives have any answers that involve actual self reflection or will they talk about some offensive nonsense theories of African Americans wanting to stay on the Democratic "plantation":

https://medium.com/@SamMcKenzieJr/my-god-if-i-hear-democratic-plantation-one-more-time-41842277249b

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-conservatives-favorite-slurs/?outputType=amp
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It goes back to the great depression and FDR. Everyone was voting against the Republican Party from 1932 until Eisenhower. White, Black, Hispanic, you name it. FDR offered hope, the Republican Party didn't. Alf Landon received 28% of the black vote in 1936, Wilkie 32% in 1940, Dewey also received 32% of the black vote in 1944, but only 23% in 1948. Eisenhower did the best in 1956 with 39% of the black vote, Nixon in 1960 received 32%.

Then the Goldwater debacle, Barry got but 6% of the black vote. No Republican since has received more than 15% of the black vote, Nixon in 1968 and Ford in 1976 accomplished that. More recently G.W. Bush received 12% 2000, 8% 2004 while McCain garnered 4%, Romney 6% and Trump 8%.

Interest to note that back in the 1940's, an average of 40% of blacks were registered Republicans, blacks averaged 25% registered Republican in the 1950's and since 1964, the average is 6%. So everything points back to 1964.

From FDR, 1936-1976, a majority of whites were registered Democrats, Reagan changed that to where approximately 60% of whites are now registered Republicans. It was the Reagan era where those who affiliated themselves with the Democratic Party dropped from an average of 45% of the electorate from FDR until Reagan down to 35%. Today, they make up 31% vs. 25% Republican.

One thing to keep in mind was Goldwater's vote against the civil rights bill while LBJ and the democrats pushed it through. That hasn't been forgotten. Then too the Rhetoric of the Republican Party has been geared to whites since then while the Rhetoric of the Democratic Party towards minorities. It's not about to change any time soon.
 
jaypatriot said:
Well, they certainly knew that their black vote would help Obama get elected.
Just like Biden knows pandering to the blacks (with a black woman VP running mate) could very well put him over the top in the Electoral College.
Biden's not dumb. Remember, "If you don't know who to vote for, you're not black".
So, black voters know which side their bread is buttered on.
Just like Obama knew he had the vast majority of the black vote.
That doesn't take brains. It's takes racial prejudice against anyone who isn't black.
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Wat you call pandering we call representing.


Black people dont vote gop because they are the party of white nationalists
 
gdgyva said:
Nickyjo

Why dont you become one of those business leaders?

Then you can show all of us HOW it is supposed to be done....

Apparently we exploit all of our workers....and you must be one of those 'slave" workers, right?

So why arent you one of the owners, and not a worker?
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I believe was responding to a post that insulted black voters. Sorry if you thought I meant all business leaders.
 
vegas giants said:
Wat you call pandering we call representing.


Black people dont vote gop because they are the party of white nationalists
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You got your narrative; I got mine.
You've been watching TV news videos again showing dumb$h!t white people yelling for Trump.
Does that make them white nationalists?
I am a nationalist because I want my country to succeed. And if it ends up better than other countries, then so be it.



Nationalism is an idea and movement that promotes the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people) especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland.
 
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