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If Trump loses, will most conservatives declare him a RINO in a year or two?

Helix said:
the Republicans will have trouble topping themselves with a bigger idiot next time around. i have to admit, though, a lot of people said the same thing after W.
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No, we said the same thing about Hilarity, and yet you offer Ol' Joe....
 
smallvoice said:
Fall for? Hell, we had to wade through 16 of the Status Quo types to get him. No falling involved.
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Except we have been through this before, George W. Bush claimed to be an outsider and the GOP base bought it, its the same story. Can conservatives not remember this stuff?

Trump is a billionaire who gave money to politicians all the time, a bus driver would be an outsider, not a billionaire.
 
Yes_Minister said:
If Trump loses, will most conservatives declare him a RINO in a year or two?
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No, that will have to wait until the next Republican president. These sames folks now calling G.W. Bush a RINO were the same ones on this site defending the heck out of him during Obama. I expect the same thing to happen to Trump. Trump in my opinion, the 7 time party switcher has always been the true RINO. He certainly isn't any conservative, he's an egotistical opportunist. He is and becomes a member of whatever party he thinks will give him an advantage.
 
trixare4kids said:
They don't.

After four years, they haven't a clue as to why he beat 16 DC CAREER politicians.

I'll bold it, and they still won't find the clue behind door number three.
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I know why and am surprised you do not. Bush called himself the 'compassionate' conservative. He was not a conservative but a big government promoter. It was during his second term members of his own party started leaving the party in droves and founded the Tea Party. It continued with Mitt Romney magically getting the nomination that many Republicans despised and if they voted for him felt dirty and had to hold their nose to vote for him. Four years later the same assholes that put forth John McCain disgusted that they were left with once again with someone many in the base could not support and it resulted in another loss.

Along comes Trump. I sure as heck was not a fan, I was backing Cruz. But SOB, Trump made promises to those within the base that he laid it out on the line that he would do everything in his power to fulfill those promises. And he delivered. After about 6 months of him in office it was clear he took those promises seriously. The base of the Republican party has never seen such a thing for decades. They had for so long compromised with the candidate they were left with versus the opposition they could not live with but this guy Trump took serious his promises.

Disappointments of Bush, to Romney to Cain......Republican base had enough.
 
Yes_Minister said:
So guys like Mycroft or apdst who have conservative as their lean and are Trump supporters don't count?
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Do I count?

You know, you should focus on UK politics, they suit you better.
 
gdgyva said:
please list the conservatives on this site that think Trump is a conservative

i dont think there will be ANYONE on that list
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How is Trump not an example of Reagan/Nixon cons for the last 52 years? I’ve watched it all, with windfall tax cuts for the wealthy, large increases in defense spending, increasingly huge deficits before COVID, being anti-reality with science, and trashing the environment.

He’s appointed ultra rightist judges, adopted Unitarianism and Nullification, threatened Martial Law, undermined our elections, and is now willing to put K-12 students in unsafe conditions and say they’re immune to COVID. We’re already gone.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Well says a lot about the conservative movement, based on petty childish grievances than actual policy.
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NO, NO. It's the actual liberal/progressive/Democrat policy that we hate; there's no "petty grievances" involved.

Anti-business, anti-defense, anti-religion, anti-freedom and on and on.
 
smallvoice said:
Do I count?

You know, you should focus on UK politics, they suit you better.
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Sure, but saying there are no conservatives on this board who support Trump is incorrect, there are.

Well, I am Canadian, though technically half American, so I can have something of an outside perspective.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Except we have been through this before, George W. Bush claimed to be an outsider and the GOP base bought it, its the same story. Can conservatives not remember this stuff?

Trump is a billionaire who gave money to politicians all the time, a bus driver would be an outsider, not a billionaire.
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Do you have a point?
 
smallvoice said:
Do I count?

You know, you should focus on UK politics, they suit you better.
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Since you’re bringing up a poster’s country, in order to tell him what his focus should be, do tell our staff members from abroad the same thing.
 
smallvoice said:
NO, NO. It's the actual liberal/progressive/Democrat policy that we hate; there's no "petty grievances" involved.

Anti-business, anti-defense, anti-religion, anti-freedom and on and on.
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Except conservatives do nonsense to ''own the libs'', Gohmert didn't wear a mask and got Covid to own the libs, the conservative movement acts like spoiled teenagers.

Is Jeff Bezo treating his workers as robots pro-business? Was Bush's Iraq War pro-defense? Was Bush proposed ban on gay marriage pro-religion? If so, those all seem like good things for me to oppose.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Sure, but saying there are no conservatives on this board who support Trump is incorrect, there are.

Well, I am Canadian, though technically half American, so I can have something of an outside perspective.
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Well, I knew you didn't have a horse in this race, I just didn't know where your horse runs. You really should not denigrate US politics coming from Canada, you folks have enough problems of your own.
 
smallvoice said:
Do you have a point?
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The point is the outsider thing is a BS story when done by Bush and Trump, the GOP will pick some unqualified trust fund baby if he can spin some nonsense story about being an outsider because frankly, they are not good at critical thinking.
 
Linc said:
Since you’re bringing up a poster’s country, in order to tell him what his focus should be, do tell our staff members from abroad the same thing.
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He brought up his country.

Chicago is a better foil.
 
smallvoice said:
Well, I knew you didn't have a horse in this race, I just didn't know where your horse runs. You really should not denigrate US politics coming from Canada, you folks have enough problems of your own.
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My mother is American and half my family lives there, who are you say I can't comment on American politicians, where is the forum rule that says I can't?

Stop with the lame ad hominem attacks, you are doing them because you can't beat my points.

You said no conservatives support Trump on this board and I pointed to 2 that do, so will take personal responsibility and admit you are wrong?
 
smallvoice said:
Do you have a point?
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I've been asking myself the same thing since I've read this person's posts.

Maybe a few hundred more posts, we'll have our answer. ;)
 
Yes_Minister said:
My mother is American and half my family lives there, who are you say I can't comment on American politicians, where is the forum rule that says I can't?

Stop with the lame ad hominem attacks, you are doing them because you can't beat my points.
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No offense, but what are your points? You ask questions but you don't appear to absorb what is said to you by those of us who have supported Trump.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Except conservatives do nonsense to ''own the libs'', Gohmert didn't wear a mask and got Covid to own the libs, the conservative movement acts like spoiled teenagers.

Is Jeff Bezo treating his workers as robots pro-business? Was Bush's Iraq War pro-defense? Was Bush proposed ban on gay marriage pro-religion? If so, those all seem like good things for me to oppose.
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Congratulations, you now know you are a liberal. Please update your lean.
 
smallvoice said:
Well, I knew you didn't have a horse in this race, I just didn't know where your horse runs. You really should not denigrate US politics coming from Canada, you folks have enough problems of your own.
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Ahh, that explains it.

I'm out.
 
smallvoice said:
No, we said the same thing about Hilarity, and yet you offer Ol' Joe....
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I didn't offer anything. I'm just voting against Anus P. McPuckerface and his cult.
 
trixare4kids said:
I've been asking myself the same thing since I've read this person's posts.

Maybe a few hundred more posts, we'll have our answer. ;)
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I think you are not paying attention, let me make it clear.

My point is a point is the conservative movement will exalt certain people and then throw them away when they are no longer convenient, they did with Bush and will Trump and that points to all, which makes their original exaltation come off as cynical and hollow.

When have conservatives been right in the past 20 years? They said the war in Iraq war was necessary, they said legalizing gay marriage would cause a disaster and they said COVID-19 was not a big deal. Heck, when do they ever admit their mistakes?
 
trixare4kids said:
If Trump loses, he loses. He is not a conservative, and IMO, he isn't really a Republican so that renders you point rather moot.

He is/was the catalyst for showing what is wrong with business as usual DC status quo whaaaaaa, boo hoo my way or else lifers; politicians.

… If he is one term, he will have demonstrated that point brilliantly. Putin, Stormy, impeachment, lather, rinse, repeat.

We sure won't act like the butt hurt sore losers who can't get over the fact that their Hillary choked and disrespected the office of the presidency.

God damn, what a bunch of babies.
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:lamo What are you talking about, his supporters have acted like a bunch of butt hurt sore losers the entire time he's been in office, I can't even begin to imagine what it will be like when he's shown the door.
 
Yes_Minister said:
My mother is American and half my family lives there, who are you say I can't comment on American politicians, where is the forum rule that says I can't?

Stop with the lame ad hominem attacks, you are doing them because you can't beat my points.

You said no conservatives support Trump on this board and I pointed to 2 that do, so will take personal responsibility and admit you are wrong?
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First of all, you have made no points.

Secondly, unless you pay US taxes, you are merely a kibitzer.

Thirdly, I NEVER said "no conservatives support Trump on this board". Please check your source.

Thank you.
 
Yes_Minister said:
I think you are not paying attention, let me make it clear.

My point is a point is the conservative movement will exalt certain people and then throw them away when they are no longer convenient, they did with Bush and will Trump and that points to all, which makes their original exaltation come off as cynical and hollow.

When have conservatives been right in the past 20 years? They said the war in Iraq war was necessary, they said legalizing gay marriage would cause a disaster and they said COVID-19 was not a big deal. Heck, when do they ever admit their mistakes?
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We have paid attention.
You asked questions.
We answered.

You don't like the answers and here you are moving the goal posts and muddying the waters with a bunch of nonsense.

I told you. I'm out. You dont want to learn. You want to tell Americans what we don't know. Believe me, we know...
 
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