For those who have decided to vote for Donald Trump and give him four more years, consider

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
the right causes the left.

all problems caused by late stage capitalism which is caused by too much right wing deregulation and tax cuts for the rich.

Capitalism is what made this country great. Yes, parts of it are bad. No matter what system you choose, it has parts of it that will be abused.

This nation in its current form is less than 250 years old. No other nation has accomplished what we have in so short of time, and democratic socialism is undoing it.

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Back to the thread title.

I don't see how any intelligent person can choose to vote for a babbling idiot like Biden. I don't particularly like president Trump, but he has my vote as the lesser of two evils. He at least want to make America prosperous again, and reduce the people taking handouts.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Conservative said:
No, compassionate conservatism, not mandated gov't dependence, you cannot seem to grasp the reality that this country was built on neighbor helping neighbor with that neighbor not being a federal bureaucrat or President.

country boy politics that work good for small villages

dont work on the level of nations.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Capitalism is what made this country great. Yes, parts of it are bad. No matter what system you choose, it has parts of it that will be abused.

This nation in its current form is less than 250 years old. No other nation has accomplished what we have in so short of time, and democratic socialism is undoing it.

ya it works awesome.... at first

and gets worse and worse over time

its a flawed system

it will continue to get worse over time

and you will continue to blame the left for what is actually the fault of a flawed system

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
country boy politics that work good for small villages

dont work on the level of nations.

The problems with the left, is they think one-size-fits-all solutions work. There needs to be a balance of local, state, and federal initiatives. The left want to increase the power of the federal government. The right wants to reduce it and return it to state and local levels.

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
ya it works awesome.... at first

and gets worse and worse over time

its a flawed system

it will continue to get worse over time

and you will continue to blame the left for what is actually the fault of a flawed system

All systems have problems as powerful people figure out how to manipulate them. It's human nature. It doesn't matter what system you use in that regard. Our system actually has pretty good checks and balances it it. You should focus on the abuse by the people in the system. Not the system.

Ask yourself. How have all high ranking democrats become millionaires while in office?

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
All systems have problems as powerful people figure out how to manipulate them. It's human nature. It doesn't matter what system you use in that regard. Our system actually has pretty good checks and balances it it. You should focus on the abuse by the people in the system. Not the system.

Ask yourself. How have all high ranking democrats become millionaires while in office?

Ask yourself. Who did trump give that 500 billion covid bailout money to? and why did he hire his whole familly when they have no education or experience. lol

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
The problems with the left, is they think one-size-fits-all solutions work. There needs to be a balance of local, state, and federal initiatives. The left want to increase the power of the federal government. The right wants to reduce it and return it to state and local levels.

a flawed system breeds criminals

crime is one of capitalists biggest flaws

along with pollution

and monopoly

survival of the fittest, greed based system.

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
Ask yourself. Who did trump give that 500 billion covid bailout money to? and why did he hire his whole familly when they have no education or experience. lol

I don't know about the money, I haven't been following it. I do know however, you place people in positions you can trust.

How many people out there outside of family can he trust?

Conservative · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
country boy politics that work good for small villages

dont work on the level of nations.

Right, that is why the U.S. is the strongest nation in the world and you have no credibility

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
I don't know about the money, I haven't been following it. I do know however, you place people in positions you can trust.

How many people out there outside of family can he trust?

ya because hes a criminal

he fires whistle-blowers

and hires loyal subjects

haha

like the mafia

he got 400 million free socialism money from daddy inheritance and has been using that power ever since to scam people and evade taxes and other crimes.

another one of capitalism big flaws. with money any clown can buy his way to the top and coast above the law

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
a flawed system breeds criminals

crime is one of capitalists biggest flaws

along with pollution

and monopoly

survival of the fittest, greed based system.

Wow.

You have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

President Nixon formed the EPA.

Monopolies are illegal.

Survival of the fittest? No. We just don't hold people back like other nations do. Poor people can become rich if they apply themselves and get lucky too. The right just doesn't want to reward laziness. At lest try to get on your own two feet if you want handouts.

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
ya because hes a criminal

he fires whistle-blowers

and hires loyal subjects

haha

like the mafia

he got 400 million free socialism money from daddy inheritance and has been using that power ever since to scam people and evade taxes and other crimes.

another one of capitalism big flaws. with money any clown can buy his way to the top and coast above the law

You love your fake news too I see.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Wow.

Poor people can become rich if they apply themselves and get lucky too. The right just doesn't want to reward laziness. At lest try to get on your own two feet if you want handouts.

all true of early stage capitalism

all false of late stage bailout capitalism that america is now

the rich get richer

the poor stay poor

rich avoid taxes and are not punished for it

50% of rich peolpe in america right now didnt earn their money, they got it from ineritence. and soon that number will be 100%

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
You love your fake news too I see.

every single thing out of trumps mouth is fake news

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Conservative said:
Right, that is why the U.S. is the strongest nation in the world and you have no credibility

strongest?

survival of the fittest again i see

there is more to life then being strong

many nations rank higher in quality of life

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
all true of early stage capitalism

all false of late stage bailout capitalism that america is now

the rich get richer

the poor stay poor

rich avoid taxes and are not punished for it

50% of rich peolpe in america right now didnt earn their money, they got it from ineritence. and soon that number will be 100%

Most of the poor stay poor because they don't get off their duffs and try to better themselves. Those ones will not get off their duffs until they have to. We have the richest poor among most other nations as well.

And please note. The homeless and crime problems are far worse in liberal controlled areas.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Most of the poor stay poor because they don't get off their duffs and try to better themselves.

why would anyone want to get off their duff when you have no affordable healthcare or education or housing

and the ultra rich are being bailed out constantly with tax payers dollars. taxes the rich didnt even pay

system is rigged.

only solution is to riot

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
why would anyone want to get off their duff when you have no affordable healthcare or education or housing

and the ultra rich are being bailed out constantly with tax payers dollars. taxes the rich didnt even pay

system is rigged.

only solution is to riot

Yep.

Why would they want to?

That's a problem in the leftist social scheme. It keeps people slaves to vote for their policies. Any attempts to make these people accountable for the handouts they get, turn into a media frenzy of the right wanting to harm the poor.

Just how is the rich being bailed out?

Can you provide proof?

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Yep.

Why would they want to?

That's a problem in the leftist social scheme. It keeps people slaves to vote for their policies. Any attempts to make these people accountable for the handouts they get, turn into a media frenzy of the right wanting to harm the poor.

Just how is the rich being bailed out?

Can you provide proof?

its stupid to try and try when you know you cant win

its also stupid to take part in a flawed and immoral system

its smarter to protest and riot and destroy it

which is what is happening and will continue to happen more and more

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the rich are avoiding taxes like crazy, and taking bailouts

this isnt free market. this is rigged market

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
its stupid to try and try when you know you cant win

If you believe you will fail, you will.

Sounds like a problem in a person's upbringing.

Omniscient said:
its also stupid to take part in a flawed and immoral system

That does not compute.

Omniscient said:
its smarter to protest and riot and destroy it

No, that's animal like behavior, and such people should be caged like wild animals are.

Omniscient said:
which is what is happening and will continue to happen more and more

Because people like you accept it, and rationalize it.

Omniscient said:
the rich are avoiding taxes like crazy, and taking bailouts

Who in congress do you think makes those loopholes? They make the loopholes because of the higher marginal rates. If you reduce the marginal rates and eliminate the loopholes, things would be better. But no... the democrats want higher marginal rates and more loopholes. That affects actors, sports players, etc. rather than the rich friends of the rich democrats.

Omniscient said:
this isnt free market. this is rigged market

Yep.

Rigged for the Chinese and other 3rd world nations, due to the unfair "free trade agreements" in place a president Clinton. We have lost so many union wage jobs, and you blame capitalism?

Our national interests are not protected like Canada and other first world nations protect theirs. Every time the republicans try to protect our interests, the democrats lie about what they are doing.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Rigged for the Chinese and other 3rd world nations, due to the unfair "free trade agreements" in place a president Clinton. We have lost so many union wage jobs, and you blame capitalism?

free trade is free market

your country cant handle a free market. so you need to put tariffs up to try and steal other countries money

removing free trade will just make your country even dumber

china is manufacturing the shhit outta you

get off your ass and get busy!

Lord of Planar · Aug 25, 2020

Omniscient said:
free trade is free market

your country cant handle a free market. so you need to put tariffs up to try and steal other countries money

removing free trade will just make your country even dumber

china is manufacturing the shhit outta you

get off your ass and get busy!

Wow.

I'm done with your ignorance. I'm no longer wasting time on you.

Goodbye.

Omniscient · Aug 25, 2020

Lord of Planar said:
Wow.

I'm done with your ignorance. I'm no longer wasting time on you.

Goodbye.

china is kicking the shhit out of america when it comes to manufactering

looks like communism is working haha

Conservative · Aug 26, 2020

Omniscient said:
china is kicking the shhit out of america when it comes to manufactering

looks like communism is working haha

Have you bothered to look at the Biden vs. Trump agendas for 2021 and beyond? Which one is positive and focused on individual growth, successes and freedoms? It is so easy to be complacent being a socialist as everything is provided for you however most people seem to get greater satisfaction over generating personal accomplishments and wealth vs having them given to them. Do you appreciate what you receive when given it or when earning it?