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Biden says he is going to ‘transform’ the nation if elected

At this point, I will take 4 years of that and see if the Republicans can get their **** together and get a better platform and leadership too. I would vote Republican over Biden if they got a good moderate leader instead of an embarrassment like Donald Trump.

Or are you proud our President has nothing better to do than tweet this morning about fake news about Bubba Wallace asking him to apologize for a hoax that he didn't even know about trying to stir up drama like a middle schooler? Come on now!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

so actual results don't resonate with you and you would be willing to risk those results with four years of Biden, Pelosi and Schumer? Why is it so important to be proud of our President, I am indeed proud of the results he has generated, why aren't you? What is a moderate leader for you and what metrics would you judge him on since the actual pre pandemic results and now pandemic recovery don't resonate?

as for the pandemic, watch this video, 17 minutes long and tell me what you disagree with here

YouTube
 
Biden says he is going to ‘transform’ the nation if elected | Fox News



Is there anyone here that isn't scared when they read a tweet like this and recall what today's Democratic Party stands for? Is this really what you want?

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
[h=1]The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July[/h]The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property

Besides there being no questions from the media when Biden says stuff like that, what is most alarming is that there's no questions from most of the public.

All the public has to say is, "Oh...cool...he's going to transform America. Yeah, I'll vote for that."
 
You call his freedom of speech a lie? You really need the President of the United States to tell you what to do on a personal responsibility issue? How did that statement affect you?

When he Lies, yes.
I don't, but I am an Adult, seems many on the right, and yes some on the left, act like spoiled brats and refuse to do the Adult thing. Oh, and just so ya know, that includes some Governor's that do what trump suggests, too bad they are too stupid to grasp the fact that trump will throw them under the bus without a second thought. What is amazing is that the WH/CDC set in place guidelines on when and how to reopen, but when trump said to ignore his own rules some Governor's did exactly that. That includes our Governor, and now we are paying the price.
We need rational adults leading this Nation and States, there will be some major changes coming, count on that.
 
your initial post was the big ole lie.

but i do congratulate you for running with what Rush and Sean have been running with. it is effective.

LOL how is it a "big ole lie" when it hasnt happened yet? Your lack of logic is astounding.
 
Biden says he is going to ‘transform’ the nation if elected | Fox News



Is there anyone here that isn't scared when they read a tweet like this and recall what today's Democratic Party stands for? Is this really what you want?

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
[h=1]The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July[/h]The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property

A permanent upward pressure on wages through equal protection of the laws! There should be no "race to the bottom" in an at-will employment State, and there is no theoretical upper limit to markets in a capital, market based economy. Solving simple poverty means full employment of capital resources under our form of Capitalism. This will result in more optimum market participation by the People.
 
When he Lies, yes.
I don't, but I am an Adult, seems many on the right, and yes some on the left, act like spoiled brats and refuse to do the Adult thing. Oh, and just so ya know, that includes some Governor's that do what trump suggests, too bad they are too stupid to grasp the fact that trump will throw them under the bus without a second thought. What is amazing is that the WH/CDC set in place guidelines on when and how to reopen, but when trump said to ignore his own rules some Governor's did exactly that. That includes our Governor, and now we are paying the price.
We need rational adults leading this Nation and States, there will be some major changes coming, count on that.

So why is it a lie and not just a mistake or difference of opinion? If you are an adult act like one, judge the President on actual verifiable results that he controls not personality or supposed lies none of which have hurt you or your family or even the country.

Politics of personal destruction are on full display here, rational adults will judge the President on issues affect them, not diverting from those issues by believing partisan rhetoric. The list I have posted here should scare the hell out of every American and if they don't then that person is part of the radical Democratic Party of today violating the very foundation upon which this country was created
 
I gave you a list of issues that should interest and concern all Americans, tell us which of those issues isn't True regardless of who you claim they came from?

i responded to a poster in this tread. sorry if that bothers you.
 
Biden says he is going to ‘transform’ the nation if elected | Fox News



Is there anyone here that isn't scared when they read a tweet like this and recall what today's Democratic Party stands for? Is this really what you want?

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
[h=1]The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July[/h]The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property

- The Trump Party repugs support the militarization of police and support their senseless killing of African Americans and other people of color.

- The Trump Party repugs want to take away Freedom of Choice of American women when it comes to their right to make personal choices for their own body. Repugs want to take away the rights of people of color to vote in America.

- Repugs want to take away the right of Freedom of Speech by not allowing Americans to listen to the anthem in their own way. They want to take away any sources of news or truth that exposes their corruption and the corruption of their new Traitor in Chief.

- The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to serve in the military, and to legally marry. The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to buy a wedding cake from a bakery that is in business to serve the public.

- The repugs want to take away the rights of non-Christians, ban Muslims, kill Jews and follow in the footsteps of the Racist in Chief and the KKK to Make America White Again. The Trump Party repugs want to limit immigration to white people only.

You are claiming the repug party is giving people freedom of choice? You're drunk on KoolAid like the rest of the cult!

- Blacks Lives Do Matter! The repugs promote modern day lynching of black people, protests will stop only when cops stop murdering Americans. Black Lives Matter wouldn't have needed to be formed if the cops weren't out of control with their killings.

- The repug party cares only about themselves, they are selfish like their leader, they don't give a damn about Americans who are poor, struggling or sickly. Repugs want to take away their healthcare, any government assistance they may need and make it impossible for those with preexisting conditions to get decent health care. The Trump Party repugs want to destroy the ACA instead of making it better, and they want to not only ban abortion, but the idiots also want to ban birth control.

- The Racist In Chief and the rest of the Trump Klan Party are inciting violence not only between races, but between religions and between political parties. They embrace White Supremacists, those confederate flags and statues, and corruption in the government. They embrace interference in our USA elections by foreign adversaries if it benefits them and their repug party.

- The Trump Party repugs don't give a damn about so many Americans dying during a pandemic, they think not wearing a mask will grow them a pair, or a spine. All of you Trump Party repugs are childish, selfish and full of hate and vitriol.

- The Trump Party repugs are the ones who are very afraid, they are afraid of Joe Biden, they were afraid of Hillary Clinton, they just hated President Barack Obama because he was a black man who was successful and powerful. They are the party of jealousy, and their new king is the most jealous of them all. The Trump Party repugs have forgotten what America is all about!

Kick all the pukes out in November, and vote Democratic to save what's left of this country and bring some sanity back into Washington and these United States of America. :2usflag:


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Old 'N Chill;1072211975]- The Trump Party repugs support the militarization of police and support their senseless killing of African Americans and other people of color.

- The Trump Party repugs want to take away Freedom of Choice of American women when it comes to their right to make personal choices for their own body. Repugs want to take away the rights of people of color to vote in America.


The Trump party supports individual freedoms welcome to the radical poorly educated and informed part of today's Democratic Party. Personal choice also means to choose whether or not to wear a mask. It wasn't Trump supporters rioting in the major Democratic Cities across the nation

- Repugs want to take away the right of Freedom of Speech by not allowing Americans to listen to the anthem in their own way. They want to take away any sources of news or truth that exposes their corruption and the corruption of their new Traitor in Chief.

Link to that claim? Please tell us all what nation that anthem represents? YouTube

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The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to serve in the military, and to legally marry. The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to buy a wedding cake from a bakery that is in business to serve the public.

Marriage is a state issue not a Constitutional issue, show us where marriage is even mentioned in the Constitution.

The repugs want to take away the rights of non-Christians, ban Muslims, kill Jews and follow in the footsteps of the Racist in Chief and the KKK to Make America White Again. The Trump Party repugs want to limit immigration to white people only.

Do you know the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL?

You are claiming the repug party is giving people freedom of choice? You're drunk on KoolAid like the rest of the cult!

Freedom of choice on personal responsibility issues is guaranteed by the Constitution, show us where the GOP is taking away that freedom, that would be your party and ideology because the party of tolerance has no tolerance for opposing views

- Blacks Lives Do Matter! The repugs promote modern day lynching of black people, protests will stop only when cops stop murdering Americans. Black Lives Matter wouldn't have needed to be formed if the cops weren't out of control with their killings

All lives matter, there isn't a more racist organization that BLM

- The repug party cares only about themselves, they are selfish like their leader, they don't give a damn about Americans who are poor, struggling or sickly. Repugs want to take away their healthcare, any government assistance they may need and make it impossible for those with preexisting conditions to get decent health care. The Trump Party repugs want to destroy the ACA instead of making it better, and they want to not only ban abortion, but the idiots also want to ban birth control.

Wow, where is the link supporting that claim, taking away healthcare? Who is taking away your healthcare and why is it my responsibility to fund yours?

Welcome to the radical wing of today's Democratic Party, someone totally out of touch with reality, history, civics, and the foundation upon which this country was built
 
- The Trump Party repugs support the militarization of police and support their senseless killing of African Americans and other people of color.

- The Trump Party repugs want to take away Freedom of Choice of American women when it comes to their right to make personal choices for their own body. Repugs want to take away the rights of people of color to vote in America.

- Repugs want to take away the right of Freedom of Speech by not allowing Americans to listen to the anthem in their own way. They want to take away any sources of news or truth that exposes their corruption and the corruption of their new Traitor in Chief.

- The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to serve in the military, and to legally marry. The repugs want to take away the rights of gay Americans to buy a wedding cake from a bakery that is in business to serve the public.

- The repugs want to take away the rights of non-Christians, ban Muslims, kill Jews and follow in the footsteps of the Racist in Chief and the KKK to Make America White Again. The Trump Party repugs want to limit immigration to white people only.

You are claiming the repug party is giving people freedom of choice? You're drunk on KoolAid like the rest of the cult!

- Blacks Lives Do Matter! The repugs promote modern day lynching of black people, protests will stop only when cops stop murdering Americans. Black Lives Matter wouldn't have needed to be formed if the cops weren't out of control with their killings.

- The repug party cares only about themselves, they are selfish like their leader, they don't give a damn about Americans who are poor, struggling or sickly. Repugs want to take away their healthcare, any government assistance they may need and make it impossible for those with preexisting conditions to get decent health care. The Trump Party repugs want to destroy the ACA instead of making it better, and they want to not only ban abortion, but the idiots also want to ban birth control.

- The Racist In Chief and the rest of the Trump Klan Party are inciting violence not only between races, but between religions and between political parties. They embrace White Supremacists, those confederate flags and statues, and corruption in the government. They embrace interference in our USA elections by foreign adversaries if it benefits them and their repug party.

- The Trump Party repugs don't give a damn about so many Americans dying during a pandemic, they think not wearing a mask will grow them a pair, or a spine. All of you Trump Party repugs are childish, selfish and full of hate and vitriol.

- The Trump Party repugs are the ones who are very afraid, they are afraid of Joe Biden, they were afraid of Hillary Clinton, they just hated President Barack Obama because he was a black man who was successful and powerful. They are the party of jealousy, and their new king is the most jealous of them all. The Trump Party repugs have forgotten what America is all about!

Kick all the pukes out in November, and vote Democratic to save what's left of this country and bring some sanity back into Washington and these United States of America. :2usflag:


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Welcome to Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the liberal utopia on full display in Democratic Cities across the country

Chicago pastor on weekend violence, death of 7-year-old: '''People are afraid to leave the house''' | Fox News

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Trump's lies and scare tactics don't work with most Americans, and neither do yours or those of fox news. :roll:

What lies and scare tactic are in this list? Prove the list wrong and stop showing typical leftwing immaturity. You make wild accusations without foundation. That list didn't come from Fox News, it came from the actual results seen on TV

Haven't seen you prove any of them wrong!
 
Trump's lies and scare tactics don't work with most Americans, and neither do yours or those of fox news. :roll:

So now CNN is part of the Trump organization and lies? What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty and total ignorance of data thus results?

CNN Riot pictures - Google Search
 
so actual results don't resonate with you and you would be willing to risk those results with four years of Biden, Pelosi and Schumer? Why is it so important to be proud of our President, I am indeed proud of the results he has generated, why aren't you? What is a moderate leader for you and what metrics would you judge him on since the actual pre pandemic results and now pandemic recovery don't resonate?

as for the pandemic, watch this video, 17 minutes long and tell me what you disagree with here

YouTube


Because I love America and our country deserves the best, especially in leadership, no?
 
Because I love America and our country deserves the best, especially in leadership, no?

The country seems to be focused on rhetoric and personality and not results would you agree? Does rhetoric trump the metrics and results? Why is it so important to have a President that the world likes, if you lived in a foreign country like NK, China, Russia would likability trump results like apparently they do in this country?
 
Just think, fake conservatives, at least with Biden in charge you don't have to be on the defense for someone who is not conservative anymore.
 
Just think, fake conservatives, at least with Biden in charge you don't have to be on the defense for someone who is not conservative anymore.

Defense of Trump comes easy when you focus on metrics, something the left and you apparently refuse to do, this is a debate forum not a flame throwing propaganda source, in debate facts always trump opinions and personal attacks. Why is it I never see any facts from you or the other anti Trump zealots here?

I see a lot of poll numbers that are given without context while ignoring data which is with context. I provided a list of issues, prove that that list isn't what Biden wouldn't be trying to implement as a puppet for the radical left
 
The country seems to be focused on rhetoric and personality and not results would you agree? Does rhetoric trump the metrics and results? Why is it so important to have a President that the world likes, if you lived in a foreign country like NK, China, Russia would likability trump results like apparently they do in this country?

I expect the President of the United States of America to have both the professional personality without divisive rhetoric and the results.

I'm sorry you expect so little of the "best" country you supposedly love that you would just settle for someone to support that gets the results but makes you twist your logic to "explain" his almost daily embarrassment. How can you say you love America you want a person to run it who acts worse than what you expect from a first grader?
 
I expect the President of the United States of America to have both the professional personality without divisive rhetoric and the results.

I'm sorry you expect so little of the "best" country you supposedly love that you would just settle for someone to support that gets the results but makes you twist your logic to "explain" his almost daily embarrassment. How can you say you love America you want a person to run it who acts worse than what you expect from a first grader?

Trump has been attacked daily since November 2016, he gave the Democrats and olive branch and what did they do with it? The left isn't used to having a results driven CEO in a leadership position and cannot accept the reality that the results are destroying their narrative. Can you tell me which of the items on that list I posted are false and is this really worth the risk to vote for Biden?
 
Anything is better than have an inept lying POS running this Nation, four more years of the Idiot will put an end to the USA. Republicans will lose power across this Nation and it will be a long time before they see a majority again, if ever, and all due to their own actions. November is going to be very Harsh for some.

The left has called Trump a lying POS over and over again so let's assume that is correct. A very simple question then do you want a "Lying POS" that has generated the metrics that have benefited the American people or a "Lying POS" Biden who will tell you what you want to hear and never generate those positive economic results but will implement the list of issues in this OP?

Is there a anti Trump zealot that will answer that question?

Just a reminder of pre pandemic results

GDP dollars and GDP dollar growth, 487 billion growth is what Trump inherited, what was it in 2017-2018-2019?
2014 17527.3 +742.0
2015 18224.8 +697.5
2016 18715.0+487.2
2017 19519.4 +804.4
2018 20,580.2 +1060.8
2019 21427.1 +846.9

Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison through February 2020. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility. GDP components are personal consumption, business investment, government spending, and net exports. Obama's GDP growth was 4.3 trillion 8 years, Trump 2.7 trillion three, Obama's due to gov't spending, Trump consumer spending

Apps Test | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% February 2020-U-3


Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million February 2020 so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth in the last three years isn't!! ]Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics


U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% February 2020? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you. U-6 indicates economic activity and includes all the under employed


Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million February 2020? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs. Part time for economic reason jobs when the recession started 4.8 million, 5.7 million when Obama left office


African American unemployment 8.0% January 2017 vs. 6.0% February 2020?

Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
 
Biden says he is going to ‘transform’ the nation if elected | Fox News



Is there anyone here that isn't scared when they read a tweet like this and recall what today's Democratic Party stands for? Is this really what you want?

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
[h=1]The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July[/h]The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property

What we know for sure is the liberal left of the democrat party is not about the good of the nation. They are about power and ruining what has made America a world power. They are opposed to capitalism and they support rule by the mob and legislating from the bench of judges and redistribution of wealth. They are for open borders, sanctuary cities, abortion on demand, defunding police and allowing civil rights to be infringed upon because of "feelings" not laws. Add all that to telling you where and when you can go somewhere, when and how you can open and run your business and telling you its OK to protest en mass but you cannot go to church. This is just part of their terrible policy stances.
 
What we know for sure is the liberal left of the democrat party is not about the good of the nation. They are about power and ruining what has made America a world power. They are opposed to capitalism and they support rule by the mob and legislating from the bench of judges and redistribution of wealth. They are for open borders, sanctuary cities, abortion on demand, defunding police and allowing civil rights to be infringed upon because of "feelings" not laws. Add all that to telling you where and when you can go somewhere, when and how you can open and run your business and telling you its OK to protest en mass but you cannot go to church. This is just part of their terrible policy stances.

That is exactly why I believe it will be a landslide for Trump as I refuse to believe the majority in this country support today's Democratic Party and their radical ideology referenced in the list I have posted. I know a lot of blacks who refuse to be called African Americans who are disgusted with the hijacking of their race for political gain, the desire for a black national anthem, the removal of U.S. monuments, the defunding of police, racists organizations like BLM but most like I believe the silent majority are scared to speak out in public but will speak out at the poll in November

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Silent Majority

Liz Peek: Left silences silent majority – but watch for this in November | Fox News
 
Trump has been attacked daily since November 2016, he gave the Democrats and olive branch and what did they do with it? The left isn't used to having a results driven CEO in a leadership position and cannot accept the reality that the results are destroying their narrative. Can you tell me which of the items on that list I posted are false and is this really worth the risk to vote for Biden?
Obama was attacked from the night of his first election, when GOPs met to plan how they could instruct him on everything.

Your trump narratives are worth the :lamo I’ll give you credit, though. You start intense threads. You can’t defend Trump, so you attack Biden.

I’ve got another post just to the thread for later. It’s quite positive. Think energy transitions and recycling. I suggest shorter paragraphs and shorter posts. Otherwise, people won’t bother and learn from you.
 
Defense of Trump comes easy when you focus on metrics, something the left and you apparently refuse to do, this is a debate forum not a flame throwing propaganda source, in debate facts always trump opinions and personal attacks. Why is it I never see any facts from you or the other anti Trump zealots here?

I see a lot of poll numbers that are given without context while ignoring data which is with context. I provided a list of issues, prove that that list isn't what Biden wouldn't be trying to implement as a puppet for the radical left

We've discussed this before. You seem to want to claim a president is responsible for certain "metrics", and I vehemently disagree. All you can do is provide such cherry-picked metrics and then (erroneously) link them to the president.

Some things you can link to the president however. One is that federal response to a crisis. 2020 has shown that Trump, as the leader of the federal government, is simply not up to the task.
 
Obama was attacked from the night of his first election, when GOPs met to plan how they could instruct him on everything.

Your trump narratives are worth the :lamo I’ll give you credit, though. You start intense threads. You can’t defend Trump, so you attack Biden.

I’ve got another post just to the thread for later. It’s quite positive. Think energy transitions and recycling. I suggest shorter paragraphs and shorter posts. Otherwise, people won’t bother and learn from you.

Obama's attacks were never personal at least by me, always policy driven, the attacks on Trump are purely personal as you and the rest of the left ignore results

I believe that you are naive, gullible and very poorly informed on what is going on even in your city. Can you tell me the last time Chicago had a Republican Mayor and why it is that people are fleeing the state of Illinois like California and NY?

I am not here to educate people who are incapable of even doing basic research to verify results but that won't stop me from posting verifiable results with CONTEXT. I have had Presidents that I despised but never made it personal like the left is doing, why is it you are having such a problem responding to the list of issues in this OP, are they the issues that you support and are you willing to risk current economic results by electing Biden?
 
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