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Democratics did not start the Civil War or found the KKK

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Civil War

Southern states, primarily lead by Democrats, initiated secession proceedings and launched the Civil War. However, historians say the party is not to blame.

“The short answer is that the Democratic Party did not start the Civil War,” Hunter said. “The war was initiated by Southern slaveholding states seceding from the United States.”

KKK

The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by ex-Confederate soldiers Frank McCord, Richard Reed, John Lester, John Kennedy, J. Calvin Jones and James Crowe in Pulaski, Tennessee. The group was originally a “social club” but quickly became a violent white supremacist group.

Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism Senior Fellow Mark Pitcavage told the Associated Press that many KKK members were Democrats because the Whig Party had died off and Southerners disliked Republicans after the Civil War. Despite KKK members' primary political affiliation, Pitcavage said it is wrong to say the Democratic Party started the KKK.

Civil Rights

“That was true in like 1910, but then after World War II Democratic presidents like Truman and Johnson started supporting civil rights laws and that led to a mass exodus of racists from the Democratic Party,” Noah mocked the claim in 2016. “Just because something used to be something doesn’t mean it still is. What matters more is what it is now.”


Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, start Civil War
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The democratic party didn't start the Civil War or the KKK. It was democratic presidents who passed the civil rights amendment.

Read the article on USA Today, it's good. Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, start Civil War
 
I've never read that it was the Democratic Party who started the KKK, but the founders do appear to have been members of the Democratic Party.

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was founded in 1866 by former confederate veterans who wished to resist the Republican Party’s reconstruction era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for African-Americans. The first chapter of the KKK was founded in Pulaski, Tennessee and its first Grand Wizard (leader) was Nathan Bradford Forrest. In order to restore White supremacy, the KKK dedicated itself to committing violence against Republican Party leaders and voters, both Black and White. Over 10% of Black legislators elected from 1867 to 1868 were victims of violence during Reconstruction, including seven Black males who were murdered.
In South Carolina in 1871, 500 masked men attacked the Union County Jail and lynched eight Black prisoners. These masked men never went to trial because the police were either members of the KKK or refused to go against them. As a result of this widespread corruption, Congress and President Ulysses S. Grant decided to pass the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which made some of the Klan’s actions federal crimes. It prohibited the deprivation of citizens’ rights to hold office, serve on juries, and enjoy equal protection under the law.
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Ku Klux Klan - Crime Museum.

Read your article again...

It confirms the above:
"Historians agree that although factions of the Democratic Party did majorly contribute to the Civil War's start and KKK's founding, it is inaccurate to say the party is responsible for either."
 
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swing_voter said:
The democratic party didn't start the Civil War or the KKK. It was democratic presidents who passed the civil rights amendment.

Read the article on USA Today, it's good. Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, start Civil War
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The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by ex-Confederate soldiers Frank McCord, Richard Reed, John Lester, John Kennedy, J. Calvin Jones and James Crowe in Pulaski, Tennessee. The group was originally a “social club” but quickly became a violent white supremacist group.

Its first grand wizard was Nathan Bedford Forrest, an ex-Confederate general and prominent slave trader.

I've posted that before. But you can't convince the clueless to pay attention to facts.

"The Democrats owned slaves 180 years ago" is their best argument leading into the 2020 election. Let them use it. The smart people point and laugh at them.
 
tres borrachos said:
The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by ex-Confederate soldiers Frank McCord, Richard Reed, John Lester, John Kennedy, J. Calvin Jones and James Crowe in Pulaski, Tennessee. The group was originally a “social club” but quickly became a violent white supremacist group.

Its first grand wizard was Nathan Bedford Forrest, an ex-Confederate general and prominent slave trader.

I've posted that before. But you can't convince the clueless to pay attention to facts.

"The Democrats owned slaves 180 years ago" is their best argument leading into the 2020 election. Let them use it. The smart people point and laugh at them.
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The problem is that some cannot recognize or accept that people and things change. It is part of the very meaning of conservative. Once a Democrat, always a Democrat. Once a Party of xxx, always a Party of xxx.

Some people (who may overlap with the above) also find it hard to separate individuals or small groups from the whole. If you are Christian, you must believe x, y, and z, or you aren't really Christian. If you are a Democrat you supported/support x and y, regardless of the time period you live in or what part of the Party supported x and y. The thing about this one though is that some allow for their "side" to change views from negative to positive, just not the other side.

The above also goes into binary thinking, seeing most things as black and white. The only 2 genders are male and female, and it is set at/before birth. If you dont believe in the God I do, the way I do, you are an Atheist. If you dont agree with, support the President, you are a traitor (but only if I support the President, otherwise it is freedom of speech). If you dont agree with BLM/protesters, you are racist.

But the last two can apply to some extremists of either/any ideology. There do seem to be more who view more things as binary on the right. That likely goes into my favorite view of those on the right vs those the left, zombies vs vampires (the metaphor is spot on to me, except for the "fear" part).

6 Mind-Blowing Ways Zombies and Vampires Explain America | Cracked.com

How the zombie represents America’s deepest fears - Vox

Now, while I question the fear part of the narrative, I easily can see the similarities presented, liberals to vampires and conservatives to zombies.

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All you need to do is research the political beliefs of the southern Democrats from that time period. They were against immigration, taxation, welfare and fought fiercely for states' rights. Anybody that doesn't realize that modern Republicans are the political descendants of the old southern Democrats is a ****ing idiot.
 
When President Johnson reached out to the poor with his "War on Poverty", that included minorities, blacks and Hispanics.

The party shifted, the democrats became the party of unions and the working man. The republicans became the party of the rich and well off.

The Tea Party used to be democrats. The Tea Party fears minorities and they broke off from the democrats and became republicans. This is weird because the republicans only care about tax cuts for rich people and not the tea party.
 
The old segregationist Dixiecrats are today's Republicans.
 
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