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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    You must be a good deal older than I am because I don't remember Rondo being exactly "seedy", just tore up, and trying to deal with the aftermath of the highway project. I had some good friends in Rondo Land!

    Weird thing is, when I first moved in with Diane (an old flame!) we rented a "house in the city/in the country".
    We called it that because the VERY FIRST LEG of the proposed I-55 AND light rail line that eventually got built on Hiawatha in Mpls tore down every single house on that street except the one we were renting.
    So we were smack dab in the middle of Minneapolis but if you stepped outside, there was a vast stretch of NOTHING, as if we were out in the countryside!

    That house is also gone now too of course, but for seven or eight months we had the entire seven block area to ourselves.
    We could **** as loud as we wanted, we could ride minibikes all over the place, we could have huge block parties without bothering anyone, it was our little patch of rural bliss, with the entire city just a few blocks away.

    I remember going to some of the old bars in Rondo.
    I wonder if the city ever did finally build the "land bridges" they proposed to rejoin the old community together again.

    Land bridges won't bring back the past but it might help heal the area somewhat.
    I dont know if I am older, but I lived on those streets for many tears; all the strip clubs, bars, pool halls....I cant recall too many nights when the cops were not called nearby.
    The old porn move palace called the "Faust" eventually burned, the Belmont strip club was finally raided for the last time and it became a police sub station...Crazy Louies is still in business, and yes, they did build the pedestrian bridges to link the neighborhoods....but not much more and, it may not register in your memory, but Tiger Jacks little shop was eventually moved off Dale street for a while and placed into the Minnesota Museum of history as being culturally significant.

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    Re: Minneapolis

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    Oh man, a classic punk symbol from the 70s. No way that was not painted last night! Proof that anarchists are taking over!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    They better be observing social distancing while looting.
    I do so love your sense of humor sir.
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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    They better be observing social distancing while looting.
    Well, the bandits have the mask wearing thing down right.
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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    That’s a tall order.......imo.
    It is, which is why that press conference is getting trashed.

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    Re: Minneapolis

    I will never get it, I understand Protesting, carrying Signs, chanting ones indignation. What I don't get is how does looting stores and attacking people make a point, heck some if those business are locally oen and these days struggling to survive, do they want to lose businesses in their neighborhood? Any have an explanation. Oh, before anyone goes there, I saw black, white, and brown people doing it so leave that excuse at the door.

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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There's a lot of intra-group dynamics at play where protesters don't trust the motivations of each other or trust that the destruction to property was done by faithful representatives of the protest. Others feel, rightly or wrongly who the hell knows, that some of the more well-known fires were started by undercover white police officers.

    Some folks I follow report that a small cluster of people have, say, a couple of black women who are leading a peaceful protest in one area, but a white man is trying to rile up that same peaceful crowd to become more violent.

    Others are going to say that the destruction is the city reaping what it sowed for having its institutions so blatantly disregard the sanctity of minority lives.

    Yeah, it's a mess. I'm not on the side of property destruction, but I also take to hear the observations of Martin Luther King Jr. and I don't think we should weigh the property destruction against the blatant murder of a citizen by police.

    At the end of the day, the MPD needs to be reformed from top to bottom and the government has to earn the respect of its community again.
    Policing in Minneapolis was a lot different back in the Seventies.
    The Twin Cities had endured a reputation as a major gangster hideout just thirty or forty years prior.

    WabashaStreetCaves.jpg

    I even had a temp gig playing the piano at The Castle Royal (aka Wabasha Street Caves) nightclub for a little while, my very own Billy Joel fantasy.

    If you mouthed off or fought with the cops back then, you were going to catch a beating, maybe even a helluva beating, but if you weren't armed, you knew you would survive. They just wanted to send you a little message that they weren't about to put up with your crap, that's all.
    Both me and a good friend had both caught a couple of those Third Precinct cop beatings back then, he's black and I am white, although in the heart of Scandanavian blue eyed blondes I was quite the swarthy looking "import" compared to my peers up there.

    But yeah, both of us got knocked around but since neither of us were in the habit of pulling a weapon on a cop, we knew we might get a black eye, or a busted nose, or a knot on the head, but we knew we would heal up and see another day. We both knew that once cuffed, most of the Hell was over and you just had to take your lumps, go to the pokey, see the judge, deal with what you got charged with, and then you moved on.

    But we knew we would not be killed.
    Looks like policing is a lot more deadly these days up there, and elsewhere.
    I can understand the fact that armed criminals deserve whatever they get, but once the 5-0 puts the cuffs on you, isn't that the sign that the suspect is IN CUSTODY and is now rendered subdued?

    We saw guys get cuffed and even HOG tied back in the old days, and even shoved into the back of the car hard enough they had a headache the next day. But that's the point...back then it was safe to assume there would BE a next day if you were put in the cuffs.
    An unarmed suspect in cuffs can only do so much and a competently trained cop is supposed to know how to handle an unarmed guy in cuffs.
    Yes, there ARE exceptions to the rule, I realize that.

    But the common expectation back then was if you made a scene while you were in cuffs it just meant you were going to be sitting there in cuffs making a scene until you wore yourself out or until backup was called to take you in. If you DIDN'T make a scene, and the cops felt sorry for you, it was going to be three hots and a cot till you saw the judge.
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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    I will never get it, I understand Protesting, carrying Signs, chanting ones indignation. What I don't get is how does looting stores and attacking people make a point, heck some if those business are locally oen and these days struggling to survive, do they want to lose businesses in their neighborhood? Any have an explanation. Oh, before anyone goes there, I saw black, white, and brown people doing it so leave that excuse at the door.
    It is kinda an American tradition. The Boston massacre, the Boston Tea Party, and a bunch of others where riots. They continued right on through our history.
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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is kinda an American tradition. The Boston massacre, the Boston Tea Party, and a bunch of others where riots. They continued right on through our history.
    The Sons of Liberty were rioters who behaved far more violently than these folks. I'm saying this as a descendant of a fairly high-ranking member of that unfortunate group.

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    Re: Minneapolis

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is kinda an American tradition. The Boston massacre, the Boston Tea Party, and a bunch of others where riots. They continued right on through our history.
    You may be on to something there. Tradition!

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