• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

What will Biden do with a blue Senate and House

jamesbyoung

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 14, 2019
Messages
4,669
Reaction score
1,506
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
They have a New Deal/Fair Deal/Square Deal bonaza playbook ready to go.

1. Add six new seats to SCOTUS and start cases in the courts to overturn half a dozen GOP-loved decisions that have harmed every day America.

2. Begin a program of cajoling and reward and punishing states to pass the NPV, which would eviscerate the GOP's edge.

3. Pass a single payer or MC4A program.

4. Cut DOD by 20%.

5. Forgive federally guaranteed loans for COVID front line fighters.

6. Open the Mueller Report and Trump's tax/finance records for all to se e.

7. Create a Criminal Libel to protect political free speech.

For starters.
 
Biden will do as he's told by the moderates of the Democrat party, which will be a million times better than Trump's deadly insanity.
 
Short story: tell everyone to bend over and it's BYO Vaseline.
 
Whatever China tells him to do.
 
They have a New Deal/Fair Deal/Square Deal bonaza playbook ready to go.

1. Add six new seats to SCOTUS and start cases in the courts to overturn half a dozen GOP-loved decisions that have harmed every day America.

2. Begin a program of cajoling and reward and punishing states to pass the NPV, which would eviscerate the GOP's edge.

3. Pass a single payer or MC4A program.

4. Cut DOD by 20%.

5. Forgive federally guaranteed loans for COVID front line fighters.

6. Open the Mueller Report and Trump's tax/finance records for all to se e.

7. Create a Criminal Libel to protect political free speech.

For starters.

1. Oh, great, so we can move on from GOP gamesmanship in refusing to vote on nominees to straight-up court-packing. By 2050 we'll have a 120-justice SCOTUS. It'll be gr...um...maybe not such a good idea.

2. And then if and when the GOP retakes power, they'll do the same damn thing to **** blue states as best they can.

3. Biden didn't want either. Remember? He wanted addition of a public option to Obamacare, and that frankly is probably the smoothest way to do it. If we decide we are ready for universal basic healthcare, we can transition to it by making the public option better and better until insurers simply cannot compete. But rather than simply knocking out the industry and all its employees, we would thus have a phased transition.

(And then there are people who like me do not want medicare for all. That is, do not want Bernie's crazy plan of absolutely no copays/anything, no private insurance, etc., which goes farther than any European model I'm aware of and poses a number of needless hazards).

4. Why 20% specifically? I'd kind of want some military input and input from those steeped in the grand geopolitical game before looking at potential reductions. There is a reason we have sprawling involvement in so many countries and it isn't simply for defense contractors to make money.

6. How? An ex post facto law revealing past president's tax information? (And what do you mean "financial records"?). I have my doubts... and I also have my doubts about whether you'd like to see whatever the next GOP president would think up on that account.

7. I really don't follow this. "Create a criminal libel"? Meaning... protect political free speech by creating a new federal crime of libel? How does creating a new way to punish someone for speech protect speech?
 
Whatever China tells him to do.

^^
Pathetic. These guys spent the Obama years telling us that Obama was weak on Russia, that Russia was our "greatest geopolitical foe", that Obama will do whatever Russia wants. But then Trump openly invites help from Russia, knowingly accepts it, doesn't tell the authorities, and engages in 14+ instances of obstruction of justice to try to cover his trail (ultimately pointless obstruction given Mueller's finding on links and/or coordination). So now they can't accuse the next left target of doing whatever Russia wants.

What about China, they think. Trump started pointless trade wars with China. Trump has spent months trying to blame China for COVID when in reality, its spread within the US is largely down to his initial months of lying, denying, and claiming it would magically just go away....all in a hopeless bid to try to protect his economic numbers. All along they defend Trump's litany of failures re: China. Well, it's obvious what they should do: start accusing the new target on the left of being "weak" on China.


It's just like going to pick up some chips and salsa, but you don't recognize the chips at first because it's got a newly designed package, and it says right there on the front, "The same product you love!"

Whereas these guys? You get the picture....
 
They have a New Deal/Fair Deal/Square Deal bonaza playbook ready to go.

1. Add six new seats to SCOTUS and start cases in the courts to overturn half a dozen GOP-loved decisions that have harmed every day America.

2. Begin a program of cajoling and reward and punishing states to pass the NPV, which would eviscerate the GOP's edge.

3. Pass a single payer or MC4A program.

4. Cut DOD by 20%.

5. Forgive federally guaranteed loans for COVID front line fighters.

6. Open the Mueller Report and Trump's tax/finance records for all to se e.

7. Create a Criminal Libel to protect political free speech.

For starters.

Anything that will require 60 votes in the Senate will be dead on arrival.
 
1. Oh, great, so we can move on from GOP gamesmanship in refusing to vote on nominees to straight-up court-packing. By 2050 we'll have a 120-justice SCOTUS. It'll be gr...um...maybe not such a good idea.

2. And then if and when the GOP retakes power, they'll do the same damn thing to **** blue states as best they can.

3. Biden didn't want either. Remember? He wanted addition of a public option to Obamacare, and that frankly is probably the smoothest way to do it. If we decide we are ready for universal basic healthcare, we can transition to it by making the public option better and better until insurers simply cannot compete. But rather than simply knocking out the industry and all its employees, we would thus have a phased transition.

(And then there are people who like me do not want medicare for all. That is, do not want Bernie's crazy plan of absolutely no copays/anything, no private insurance, etc., which goes farther than any European model I'm aware of and poses a number of needless hazards).

4. Why 20% specifically? I'd kind of want some military input and input from those steeped in the grand geopolitical game before looking at potential reductions. There is a reason we have sprawling involvement in so many countries and it isn't simply for defense contractors to make money.

6. How? An ex post facto law revealing past president's tax information? (And what do you mean "financial records"?). I have my doubts... and I also have my doubts about whether you'd like to see whatever the next GOP president would think up on that account.

7. I really don't follow this. "Create a criminal libel"? Meaning... protect political free speech by creating a new federal crime of libel? How does creating a new way to punish someone for speech protect speech?

1. The GOP will take power only when it represents We the People.

2. The GOP will not do the same thing if they are representing We the People.

3. Say you are right. That would certainly be much better than what we have. I consider the private health care workers a "dark state" of suckers off the public health. Let them go work for Uber or Lyft.

4. It is exactly driven by the military industrial complex.

5.

6. No law is needed. Biden will grant House requests for the information.

7. If you don't want criminal libel, then reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine.
 
Anything that will require 60 votes in the Senate will be dead on arrival.

The Dems are going to change the rule on cloture to a majority vote to come to the floor.
 
They have a New Deal/Fair Deal/Square Deal bonaza playbook ready to go.

1. Add six new seats to SCOTUS and start cases in the courts to overturn half a dozen GOP-loved decisions that have harmed every day America.

2. Begin a program of cajoling and reward and punishing states to pass the NPV, which would eviscerate the GOP's edge.

3. Pass a single payer or MC4A program.

4. Cut DOD by 20%.

5. Forgive federally guaranteed loans for COVID front line fighters.

6. Open the Mueller Report and Trump's tax/finance records for all to se e.

7. Create a Criminal Libel to protect political free speech.

For starters.
8. Wake up.
 
The Dems are going to change the rule on cloture to a majority vote to come to the floor.

I doubt that. They saw what happened when Harry Reid started dicking around with the Senate rules regarding the number of votes required for nominees.
 
I doubt that. They saw what happened when Harry Reid started dicking around with the Senate rules regarding the number of votes required for nominees.

If the dems sweep it all, the GOP in its current configuration will never take the WH and Congress again, ever.
 
Something health care related.
 
If the dems sweep it all, the GOP in its current configuration will never take the WH and Congress again, ever.

Nice fantasy. I remember hearing the same thing about the Democrats retaking the White House after Reagan nearly ran the table in 1984. That prediction was as accurate then as yours is now.
 
Nice fantasy. I remember hearing the same thing about the Democrats retaking the White House after Reagan nearly ran the table in 1984. That prediction was as accurate then as yours is now.

That's a false equivalency fallacy because of the introduction of Trump and the degradation of the GOP, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.
 
With democrats holding both houses of congress and the white house?

Biden brings a big broom and sweeps out all Trump's appointees

Reverses all his decisions on environmental rules, park service and immigration

As a nation accept that Man Made Global Warming is real and join with the rest.of the world in moving America towards renuable energy and away from fossil fuels.

Time for the democrats to step up and create universal health care.

Tackle the tax code. Time to end Reagan's trickle down economics.

Reverse the outsourcing of American jobs. Give corporations incentives to create quality American jobs and penalized those who offshore.

Rebuild relationships with our allies around the world damaged by Trump.

Just a start. Reversing Trump's damage will be a big job
 
Last edited:
If the dems sweep it all, the GOP in its current configuration will never take the WH and Congress again, ever.

During Obama's second term we had people posting on political boards that "there won't be another Republican president for 20 years".

See how wrong that was.

Or are you basically admitting that once the Democrats get power they'll cheat at all costs to keep it.
 
During Obama's second term we had people posting on political boards that "there won't be another Republican president for 20 years".

See how wrong that was.

Or are you basically admitting that once the Democrats get power they'll cheat at all costs to keep it.

Obama brought out the racist. They were really fired up when the found trump. Democrats got complacent. Nobody though Trump could win.

Democrats may do it again. We know Trump's deplorable base is fired up. They hate democrats. If real republicans are disgusted enough with trump to just stay home then the democrats have a chance.
 
During Obama's second term we had people posting on political boards that "there won't be another Republican president for 20 years".

See how wrong that was.

Or are you basically admitting that once the Democrats get power they'll cheat at all costs to keep it.

They were wrong. Then Trump was elected, God visited us with a plague, and the Dem leaderships has created a plan to take us back to constitutional government. The GOP as it is now constituted will not be able to compete with that constitutional model.
 
That's a false equivalency fallacy because of the introduction of Trump and the degradation of the GOP, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.

If that makes you feel better, go for it.
 
They were wrong. Then Trump was elected, God visited us with a plague, and the Dem leaderships has created a plan to take us back to constitutional government. The GOP as it is now constituted will not be able to compete with that constitutional model.

What makes you think that's what most American voters want?
 
They have a New Deal/Fair Deal/Square Deal bonaza playbook ready to go.

1. Add six new seats to SCOTUS and start cases in the courts to overturn half a dozen GOP-loved decisions that have harmed every day America.

2. Begin a program of cajoling and reward and punishing states to pass the NPV, which would eviscerate the GOP's edge.

3. Pass a single payer or MC4A program.

4. Cut DOD by 20%.

5. Forgive federally guaranteed loans for COVID front line fighters.

6. Open the Mueller Report and Trump's tax/finance records for all to se e.

7. Create a Criminal Libel to protect political free speech.

For starters.

1. Fix the Constitution where NEVER again can any abuse the Presidency the ways Trump and Republicans have. We can and will get some Constitutional Amendments to the power that a President can have.
2. The concept of "unitary executive" can and should be abolished.
3. Tear up the memo that says a president can't be indited. (No one is above the law)
4. Remove the Nuclear Option from ever being able to be used again to fill a Supreme Court Seat.
5. Strengthen the House Oversight and make it possible for them to "get the documents they need", and strengthen the Subpoena Power of the House
6. Make it Core Requirement for Tax Record to be Presented to Congress (House and Senate) before any President can be sworn into office.
7. Strengthen the Emoluments Clause
8. No Presidents Family Member can serve in Presidential Administrative Capacity.
9. No Money, No Political Function, and No Government Administration Meetings can be held at any President or Cabinets Members Personal Owned or 10. Any Property that is under the nation or business entity associated with the President or Cabinet Member and No property that has any investment, interest, or direct or collaterally beneficial interest in.

11. Review the 25th Amendment and add in for cause of any act or conduct that promotes "divisive conduct and behavior' in the civic and civil systems of society.
12. Add language to criteria for "Cabinet Positions"... (No more Betsy DeVos and Ben Carson's and Rick Perry etc madness)
13. 25 yrs max for Supreme Court Justices. (Retroactively)
14. Fix Voting Rights one and for all!!!
15. Restore Community College and State University Funding to how it functioned, Pre-Reagan Damages; and Ensure it is available to any and all American People.
16. Reverse EVERY dumb ass Executive Order Trump Issued.

Review the terms of Treason, where it does not confine itself to war.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom