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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Did you also notice the democrats are standing in the way so they can take advantage of trillions of dollars meant for relief to use on liberal wish list that have nothing to do with the Virus or the economic aid?

    Democrats playing liberal politics at cost of citizens lives.

    Democrats were not on the Hill today. Pelosi sent them home to let Republicans stew over their proposal. Not One Democrat showed up at the house to defend their list of demands before any American's see a dime of the stimulus money.

    1. Increased fuel emission standards for airlines receiving funds and carbon offsets.
    Not later than 90 days after the enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall require each air carrier receiving assistance under section 101, to fully offset the annual carbon emissions of such air carriers for domestic flights beginning in 2025.

    2. Payment for up to $10,000 in student loans:

    3. Same-day voter registration, early voting, voting by mail, ballot harvesting
    REQUIRING AVAILABILITY OF INTERNET FOR VOTER REGISTRATION
    REQUIRING AVAILABILITY OF INTERNET FOR REGISTRATION
    PERMITTING VOTERS TO DESIGNATE OTHER PERSON TO RETURN BALLOT
    AUTOMATIC MAILING OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS TO ALL VOTERS

    4. Preserving collective bargaining powers for unions
    Several provisions in the bill include carveouts for big labor, including labor protections, collective bargaining, and organizing, as well as overturning President Trump’s executive orders regarding federal employee unions.

    5. The expansion of wind and solar tax credits

    6. Requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data
    The bill demands that corporate recipients of financial assistance are required to report racial and gender data regarding salaries, number of employees, supplier diversity, and membership on corporate boards. It also requires federal agencies to use businesses and financial institutions owned by minorities or women

    7. Post Office Bailout
    UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE PAYMENT TO POSTAL SERVICE FUND

    8. Automatic extension of nonimmigrant visas.

    9. Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status

    10. Money for Planned Parenthood
    Democrats want the bill to prop up Planned Parenthood

    11. Expansion of use of Minority Banks and Credit Unions

    12. Prohibit stock buybacks & dividends for anyone accepting bailout money

    13. Special rules for Min. funding for community newspaper plans

    14. Required board diversity for all corporations who use bailout money

    This is your Democrat party. They refuse to come to the House to defend any of it but refuse to sign the bill without it. They have offered a put up or shut up deal.

    While American's drowned in their own fluids, the economy has come to a stop, People are locked up in their homes, Businesses are disappearing, and a national quarantine is being issued, Pelosi has sent her house members home and while holding American's hostage.

    They don't care about your family members dying
    They don't care about your financial means
    They don't care about the economy crashing

    They want their green new deal and are willing to kill you for it.

    These are the bills that can't pass on their own and Democrats are demanding they be included if we want money to rescue our fellow American's in their most dyer time.

    Nancy Pelosi Proposes 1,400-Page Coronavirus Bill Stuffed with Pork
    Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States!

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Should we have care if businesses have to restructure and create unemployment if we can ensure equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment State?
    Sorry, but I don’t understand your question.

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idontbelonghere View Post
    Sorry, but I don’t understand your question.
    Unemployment is an externality to any business, business should not have to worry about unemployment because that is a State responsibility in any at-will employment State. That means, if capitalists were to upgrade with the latest in modern technologies in modern times now for their bottom line, they could do so without remorse because unemployment compensation should be automatic for anyone who is unemployed in our at-will employment States.

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idontbelonghere View Post
    This narrative is as false as Vern’s.
    It is, in fact, true. There's plenty of video showing the Dems pushing the GSAs as being A OK and them pushing for the CRA to have banks to give loans to people who wouldn't normally have qualified.
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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    They only allege fiscal conservatism when democrats are in office and only allege to believe in natural rights in abortion threads (where they get to tell women what do to).
    Sure. That’s Republicans.

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Unemployment is an externality to any business, business should not have to worry about unemployment because that is a State responsibility in any at-will employment State. That means, if capitalists were to upgrade with the latest in modern technologies in modern times now for their bottom line, they could do so without remorse because unemployment compensation should be automatic for anyone who is unemployed in our at-will employment States.
    Except unemployment isn’t an externality to business, is it? Employers are heavily burdened with taxes and mandated benefits. A part of those burdens are specifically for unemployment insurance. So it’s far from external, don’t you think?

    As for technology - why are we so focused on the downside? That’s Life 101. When one door closes, another one opens. You just have to pay attention.

    And technology isn’t replacing anyone overnight. It’s not like it’s gonna sneak up on us. It’s been replacing “jobs” since the invention of the wheel. That’s it’s purpose.

    Don’t be hopeless. I’m astounded at the creativity and opportunity so many younger people have. They’re making money on all sorts of social media sites, and some people actually make money playing video games! Who knew? (Yep. I’m old)

    As for unemployment being made available to anyone unemployed, don’t you think that’s a little bit silly? Employees also pay into unemployment insurance. With what you seem to be describing, why would anyone bother to get a job in the first place? Just graduate high school and go file for income?

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishking View Post
    It is, in fact, true. There's plenty of video showing the Dems pushing the GSAs as being A OK and them pushing for the CRA to have banks to give loans to people who wouldn't normally have qualified.
    And who was pushing easy money policies at the time? Who was pointing to home ownership rising as a hallmark of his presidency? You think Republicans weren’t aware of what was going on? Where were they? Running for re-election in 2004 & 2006 on the amazing economy, and the housing market specifically! Yeah... the bubble and causes snuck right up on them... c’mon.

    All that, and at the same time, money flooded into the Republican socialist program. War budgets were exploding at the time (justified by a fear far less threatening than a virus) contributing to the inflation and devaluation of the dollar (which is truly at the heart of any economic collapse) Oh! And in 2003, Bush expanded Medicare to the tune of a cool half $T. Is that still a socialist program? I can’t tell anymore.

    The bubble that happened to pop first was real estate. It could have been auto loans, student loans, municipal bonds, or any number of bipartisan created bubbles.

    Who made all of it possible? BOTH parties. They’ve been doing it for over 100 years. To blame one party and not the other requires a lack of awareness about what actually causes an economy to collapse. Republicans have absolutely no room to point fingers on the topic of fiscal responsibility, or how an economy collapses.

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idontbelonghere View Post
    And who was pushing easy money policies at the time? Who was pointing to home ownership rising as a hallmark of his presidency? You think Republicans weren’t aware of what was going on? Where were they? Running for re-election in 2004 & 2006 on the amazing economy, and the housing market specifically! Yeah... the bubble and causes snuck right up on them... c’mon.
    Yes...they were aware. There is video them calling for GSEs like Freddie and Fannie to be checked into and warned of not practicing sound business but the Dems were quick to rush to their defense. Just one piece of the puzzle that's well documented.



    5:30 has Maxine Waters plainly declaring the policy of pushing housing loans to those who wouldn't normally afford it. These crap home loans where then used for even more loans, using them as backing, creating an unstable chain of investments. Again...the facts are on my side.
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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishking View Post
    Yes...they were aware. There is video them calling for GSEs like Freddie and Fannie to be checked into and warned of not practicing sound business but the Dems were quick to rush to their defense. Just one piece of the puzzle that's well documented.



    5:30 has Maxine Waters plainly declaring the policy of pushing housing loans to those who wouldn't normally afford it. These crap home loans where then used for even more loans, using them as backing, creating an unstable chain of investments. Again...the facts are on my side.
    Well, you hang on to those facts with everything you have then. Someone needs to find your vast knowledge and understanding of economics useful. It might as well be you.

    For what it’s worth, your facts aren’t wrong. They’re just the facts that you use to fit your narrative. Why you choose to refuse to accept that both parties played their role and work together to create the bubbles simply paints you as more loyal to party than truth. Well done comrade.

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    Re: Am I the only one who's noticed that republicans are sparing no expense to rescue the economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idontbelonghere View Post
    Sure. That’s Republicans.
    Pretty sure; it may have been the Tea Party, but the right wing is still for Tax Cut economics.
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