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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robertinfremont View Post
    Hitler was one step deeper into socialism that FDR was allowed to be.
    ...and now the Republicans are favoring Hitler. Awesome. You know, just like Democrats founded the KKK but now KKK members vote Republican. LOL
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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robertinfremont View Post
    Hitler was one step deeper into socialism that FDR was allowed to be.
    I don't think you understand what socialism is...

    Socialism means working class ownership of the means of production. It gives power to the unions. It doesn't ban them.

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I will happily vote for the Democratic candidate over Trump. I am prepared to donate and lead registration drives. I am determined to get rid of Trump, more than I am determined to get a certain person elected
    I am pretty confident you will still wail you lost by doing that. As many times as I have asked thousands of posters, tell me the magic wand, the economy switch that favors democrats vs republicans and in all these decades no democrat has the answer. Normally the reaction is to pick their enemy group and slap them silly with extreme high taxes.

    IT does not work. Last several days, i watched a top movie called Letters from Iwo Jima and it provoked me to also watch Flags of our Fathers. Same war, same island, one from the Japanese side the other from America's side.

    One thing Americans forget or never considered is that FDR ran into severe money problems in his war. He would take military men out of combat and bring them to the USA to beg for funds. I literally mean BEG. War bonds were his vehicle. And he ran out of money. This is so seldom mentioned, I feel it worthwhile saying it now. Flags of our fathers was maybe half devoted to raising money to fight FDR's wars. FDR so heavily taxed the public, he would have lost them totally but for his bawling using vets as his tool to get the public to pay more and more.

    And the public was far worse off then than today. Still you have the FDR lovers who never put a moments thought into how FDR could have evaded his wars in the first place.

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Irredentist View Post
    I don't think you understand what socialism is...

    Socialism means working class ownership of the means of production. It gives power to the unions. It doesn't ban them.
    Let's quit the two step. I am extremely familiar with socialism. Notice if I say Democrat, maybe to you it means just one small thing. But to me, it has a wide range of beliefs. Socialism is not MERELY what you allege it is.

    I get a kick out of people who do not understand this subject saying to me "You do not understand" Unions are not needed to have socialism. And with them, it itself is not socialism as Governments understand it.

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    ...and now the Republicans are favoring Hitler. Awesome. You know, just like Democrats founded the KKK but now KKK members vote Republican. LOL
    FDR = Hitler in his form of government. We do not favor Adolph for a myriad of reasons. Adolf essentially created a one party government. Alas, so did FDR. FDR and Adolph were huge spenders on the society. There was no more voting under Hitler. Frankly study how many times FDR won and ask, was that really voting?

    There is the myth that we republicans favor the KKK. But that is simply hog wash. I do not care who they vote for. They voted for far more than a century for democrats. Maybe they smelled the stench and now vote for us. It does not matter.

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robertinfremont View Post
    Let's quit the two step. I am extremely familiar with socialism. Notice if I say Democrat, maybe to you it means just one small thing. But to me, it has a wide range of beliefs. Socialism is not MERELY what you allege it is.

    I get a kick out of people who do not understand this subject saying to me "You do not understand" Unions are not needed to have socialism. And with them, it itself is not socialism as Governments understand it.
    I don't know what Democrat means to you, to me it's a political party.

    A union is an organization of workers. You cannot have working class ownership of the means of production without some kind of organization of workers.

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    That's the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives even got behind Hitler.
    That is an absolute lie. It was the American leftwing that fell in love with Hitler - Time Magazine Man Of The Year.

    Besides, Bernie Sanders would assure you that really what is important about Hitler was he had some good social programs - free childcare, money for the elderly, unemployment insurance, free drug addiction treatment, and many more. To Sander's way of thinking, Hitler was a great guy. In fact, nearly every "FREE" program Sanders promises are programs Hitler came up with.
    How do you like being under government ordered house arrest for the crime of existing?

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Irredentist View Post
    I don't know what Democrat means to you, to me it's a political party.

    A union is an organization of workers. You cannot have working class ownership of the means of production without some kind of organization of workers.
    Bernie Sanders is to the Democratic Party what a scab is to a union.

    Sander's already is vowing to destroy the Democratic Party on behalf of Trump if he doesn't get the nomination. Sanders openly stated he can't stand liberals and is the anti-Democrat.
    How do you like being under government ordered house arrest for the crime of existing?

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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robertinfremont View Post
    FDR was no conservsative but he backed Hitler. His economy and Hitlers were darned near mirror images.
    It was the republiklan that backed Hitler in the 1930s. This is an absolutely abysmal attempt at historical revision. Only 38% of isolationist Repubs unequivocally supported Lend Lease compared to 69% of Democrats.

    There’s plenty more here if you want it. If repubs had controlled government, Great Britain would have been wiped out. Today’s GOPutiNazis would have liked that.
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    Re: If Sanders is the nominee, will you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I've already early-voted for Sanders but I'm not a Sanders fan. I did it because I think he delivers the best shot at beating Trump.

    Trump is such a disaster and he is so dangerous to America, posing an existential threat to our democratic institutions, that this is no-brainer. Never the lesser of two evils has been clearer.

    So, original poster, I invite you to pinch your nose this time and vote for whoever is the Dem nominee, even if it is Sanders.

    At worst, if he wins Sanders will be an ineffective president for 4 years, obstructed by Congress, then will be too old and frail for a second term. But at least, he will have kicked the Trump Crime Family out of the Oval Office.
    My guess is you are one of those people that want an asteroid to destroy all life on earth rather than Trump being re-elected.
    How do you like being under government ordered house arrest for the crime of existing?

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