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Trump campaign fires back after Obama claims credit for economic boom

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Trump campaign fires back after Obama claims credit for economic boom | Fox News

The Trump campaign fired back Monday after former President Barack Obama, in a subtle swipe at ​
President Trump,
claimed credit for the economic gains in both their terms.​
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This is what radical liberals do, take credit but never responsibility. The reality is here, Trump's economy has blown Obama's results away WITH CONTEXT that the left wants to ignore. Here is the reality about all those jobs created, the U-6!! Job growth of under employed people who now support the Trump economic policies, 56% to 39%

U-6 Obama left us with 9.3%, Trump's numbers are 6.9%, that is why Trump economic results are outstanding
 
Here is that booming Obama economy he wants to take credit for, 9.3 trillion added to the debt and under employment still above Pre recession levels. anyone now question why his legacy has been rejected?

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS13327709
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (seas) Total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of all civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers
Labor force status: Aggregated totals unemployed
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over
Percent/rates: Unemployed and mrg attached and pt for econ reas as percent of labor force plus marg attached
Years: 2008 to 2019

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 9.2 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.7 10.1 10.5 10.8 11.0 11.8 12.6 13.6
2009 14.2 15.2 15.8 15.9 16.5 16.5 16.4 16.7 16.7 17.1 17.1 17.1
2010 16.7 17.0 17.1 17.1 16.6 16.4 16.4 16.5 16.8 16.6 16.9 16.6
2011 16.2 16.0 15.9 16.1 15.8 16.1 15.9 16.1 16.4 15.8 15.5 15.2
2012 15.2 15.0 14.5 14.6 14.7 14.8 14.8 14.6 14.8 14.4 14.4 14.4
2013 14.6 14.4 13.8 14.0 13.8 14.2 13.8 13.6 13.5 13.6 13.1 13.1
2014 12.7 12.6 12.6 12.3 12.2 12.0 12.1 12.0 11.7 11.5 11.4 11.2
2015 11.3 11.0 10.8 10.8 10.9 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.0 9.8 10.0 9.9
2016 9.8 9.7 9.8 9.7 9.9 9.5 9.7 9.6 9.7 9.6 9.4 9.2
2017 9.3 9.1 8.7 8.6 8.5 8.5 8.5 8.6 8.3 8.0 8.0 8.1
2018 8.2 8.2 7.9 7.8 7.7 7.8 7.5 7.4 7.5 7.5 7.6 7.6
2019 8.1 7.3 7.3 7.3 7.1 7.2 7.0 7.2 6.9 7.0 6.9 6.7
2020 6.9
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2007 $14.452 $15.626 1.9% Bank crisis
2008 $14.713 $15.605 -0.1% Financial Crisis
2009 $14.449 $15.209 -2.5% Stimulus Act
2010 $14.992 $15.599 2.6% ACA, Dodd-Frank
2011 $15.543 $15.841 1.6% Japan earthquake
2012 $16.197 $16.197 2.2% Fiscal cliff
2013 $16.785 $16.495 1.8% Sequestration
2014 $17.527 $16.912 2.5% QE ends
2015 $18.225 $17.404 2.9% TPP, Iran deal
2016 $18.715 $17.689 1.6% Presidential race
2017 $19.519 $18.108 2.4% Trump Tax Act
2018 $20.580 $18.638 2.9% Deficit spending
2019 $21,429 $19,073 2.3% Trade war

The fourth column is GDP. Obama had some years that were as good as Trumps, plus Obama had to deal with the 2007 financial crash.
 
Anyone want to take bets on just about every Trump supporter, including the OP, ignoring out of complete ignorance the trends in the very stats they supply?
 
Conservative said:
Here is that booming Obama economy he wants to take credit for, 9.3 trillion added to the debt...
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Right there is where normal people stop reading. Because this poster is completely leaving out the debt that is being run up at this exact moment.

Where is the Tea Party?
 
swing_voter said:
2007 $14.452 $15.626 1.9% Bank crisis
2008 $14.713 $15.605 -0.1% Financial Crisis
2009 $14.449 $15.209 -2.5% Stimulus Act
2010 $14.992 $15.599 2.6% ACA, Dodd-Frank
2011 $15.543 $15.841 1.6% Japan earthquake
2012 $16.197 $16.197 2.2% Fiscal cliff
2013 $16.785 $16.495 1.8% Sequestration
2014 $17.527 $16.912 2.5% QE ends
2015 $18.225 $17.404 2.9% TPP, Iran deal
2016 $18.715 $17.689 1.6% Presidential race
2017 $19.519 $18.108 2.4% Trump Tax Act
2018 $20.580 $18.638 2.9% Deficit spending
2019 $21,429 $19,073 2.3% Trade war

The fourth column is GDP. Obama had some years that were as good as Trumps, plus Obama had to deal with the 2007 financial crash.
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Tell us the components of GDP and put the Obama vs. Trump in those numbers?
 
CaughtInThe said:
Right there is where normal people stop reading. Because this poster is completely leaving out the debt that is being run up at this exact moment.

Where is the Tea Party?
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So now debt bothers you? You have a problem with people keeping more of what they earn?
 
OrphanSlug said:
Anyone want to take bets on just about every Trump supporter, including the OP, ignoring out of complete ignorance the trends in the very stats they supply?
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So tell us the components of GDP, tell us what Obama generated vs. Trump and then tell us how trajectory pays for personal bills?
 
Conservative said:
So tell us the components of GDP, tell us what Obama generated vs. Trump and then tell us how trajectory pays for personal bills?
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Quit pretending we do not have a unified budget, especially when it allows you to overlook what Trump did to our fiscal position and deficit trends.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Quit pretending we do not have a unified budget, especially when it allows you to overlook what Trump did to our fiscal position and deficit trends.
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Tell that to the 56% of the American people who support Trump on the economy. You keep promoting socialism and watch you go to the trash heap of history
 
Conservative said:
Tell that to the 56% of the American people who support Trump on the economy. You keep promoting socialism and watch you go to the trash heap of history
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Pick a subject you wish to discuss instead of falling back to age old accusations totally devoid of any evidence that I support socialism... assuming you can even define that.

BTW, 56% of Americans who support Trump on the economy by polling has zero to do with the economics of government spending or why we have such a "great great" economy yet it takes Trillion dollar deficits to prop it up.

To your OP attempt at a point, there was a trend that even you should be able to identify from the numbers you reported that predate Trump.
 
it's pretty amazing that we're still in an expansion that goes all of all the way back to the Bush economic collapse. Tweety was definitely lucky to inherit a good economy.
 
Obama is right and Trump gets left (heh)
 
OrphanSlug said:
Pick a subject you wish to discuss instead of falling back to age old accusations totally devoid of any evidence that I support socialism... assuming you can even define that.

BTW, 56% of Americans who support Trump on the economy by polling has zero to do with the economics of government spending or why we have such a "great great" economy yet it takes Trillion dollar deficits to prop it up.

To your OP attempt at a point, there was a trend that even you should be able to identify from the numbers you reported that predate Trump.
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How about the role of the federal, state ,and local governments? I spent 35 years in the private sector and can tell you that you have zero understanding of our economy and the benefits it offers
 
Helix said:
it's pretty amazing that we're still in an expansion that goes all of all the way back to the Bush economic collapse. Tweety was definitely lucky to inherit a good economy.
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Here's the problem, context matter which apparently you don't understands. Under employed Americans turned the gov't over to Trump and Republicans. Suggest you learn that context matters.
 
Conservative said:
How about the role of the federal, state ,and local governments? I spent 35 years in the private sector and can tell you that you have zero understanding of our economy and the benefits it offers
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And still you dance around the very subject you created with numbers you provided.

Resort to ad hominem all you need to, it is a well known hallmark of yours as well.
 
Conservative said:
Here's the problem, context matter which apparently you don't understands. Under employed Americans turned the gov't over to Trump and Republicans. Suggest you learn that context matters.
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this matters.

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OrphanSlug said:
Anyone want to take bets on just about every Trump supporter, including the OP, ignoring out of complete ignorance the trends in the very stats they supply?
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Well, trends don't matter until they do; and context matters until it doesn't.

:)
 
Helix said:
this matters.

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If one were having an honest debate, the argument could be about the rate of unemployment reduction between both presidencies and the policies which led to them, but that would be in an ideal world where there's an interest outside of pushing narratives.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Pick a subject you wish to discuss instead of falling back to age old accusations totally devoid of any evidence that I support socialism... assuming you can even define that.

BTW, 56% of Americans who support Trump on the economy by polling has zero to do with the economics of government spending or why we have such a "great great" economy yet it takes Trillion dollar deficits to prop it up.

To your OP attempt at a point, there was a trend that even you should be able to identify from the numbers you reported that predate Trump.
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Yep, and it's the right question to ask regarding to the real health of the economy.
 
OrphanSlug said:
And still you dance around the very subject you created with numbers you provided.

Resort to ad hominem all you need to, it is a well known hallmark of yours as well.
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What specifically have I "danced around?" You really don't like official data, do you?
 
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