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Thread: Are the Democrats serious when they say Bernie, Biden, Liz, Amy, Micheal, can unite the country?

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    Re: Are the Democrats serious when they say Bernie, Biden, Liz, Amy, Micheal, can unite the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hillary?

    "Gross generalization... roughly half... racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe and other bigots... a basket of deplorables."

    You cannot remove the definition of deplorable from her sentence.

    Now, grossly generalize is 50%. Two steps away, one for grossly, let's say her claim is 10% of Trump supporters are bigots of some sort. I think a Trumper should take that number and run.

    You've been convinced to be offended by that term. Let's be honest, claiming only 10% is doing Trumpers a favor.
    But you admit that Hillary did not claim only ten percent, so she still has to take the (deserved) heat for a gross generalization.

    Not that I'm sorry she said it, since it's one of several remarks that put her character on display. She apparently failed to learn from the mistake, since in recent months she came up with that amazing high-schoolish putdown, "Nobody likes Bernie Sanders."

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    Re: Are the Democrats serious when they say Bernie, Biden, Liz, Amy, Micheal, can unite the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    What strawman?

    If you're going to mention sincerity, you must accept the fact that not everyone's sincere views are socially acceptable. I know of no white supremacists who are anti Trump. And while the anti Trump crowd can display their own brand of stupidity, believing everything Donald Trump says is insanity, regardless of how righteous they sincerely believe him to be.
    On a side issue, certain supremacists have become more "anti Trump" on issues like recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the more recent kerfluffle with Iran.

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    Re: Are the Democrats serious when they say Bernie, Biden, Liz, Amy, Micheal, can unite the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    How large the sectors are is debatable, but those were examples. Here's what you wrote:

    People of different political persuasions vote their conscience, sincerely believing their particular candidate will be the best for them and the nation.

    I have no argument that this occurs; most people believe they are right. What I'm saying is that sincerity of belief does not shield one from those beliefs. I have an ex who sincerely believes socialism means all the blacks will go on welfare. She also thinks Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, and the last show I heard on AM radio in her truck was how the United States was founded on white supremacy. She's a blind Trump supporter, and a deplorable, and an ex. She is 100% sincere in her opinions.

    That's all I'm saying. If you don't want to be associated with deplorables, break the association. Talking about "sincerity" almost sounds like a persecution complex.

    Some voters may feel that the accusation of a false association with white supremacists is the cross one must bear for not having a real association with soclalists.

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