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Key takeaways from the IG report on FISA

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(Sorry about the title. The report was not just about FISA)


From Politico...



  • The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
  • Lynch, Comey sat for IG interviews
  • No evidence political bias was a factor
  • Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were not decision-makers
  • Carter Page was the only Trump official under FISA surveillance
  • First Carter Page FISA contained ‘seven significant inaccuracies and omissions’
  • Steele dropped as FBI source after Mother Jones article
  • Steele had prior relationship with Ivanka Trump
  • Manafort was under investigation prior to Russia probe scrutiny

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways - POLITICO
 
Of course, Trump supporters are the most uninformed and least capable of disseminating information of any major political supporters of the modern age and so all this, along with Lindsay Graham says he... Will get to the real bottom of this and get the real baddies... Lulz... Trump supporters will continue to insist that there was some illegal and biased attempt to “get Trump” and his associates just... Because.

It’s amazing these people have the ****ing gall to claim liberals play the victim card.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Of course, Trump supporters are the most uninformed and least capable of disseminating information of any major political supporters of the modern age and so all this, along with Lindsay Graham says he... Will get to the real bottom of this and get the real baddies... Lulz... Trump supporters will continue to insist that there was some illegal and biased attempt to “get Trump” and his associates just... Because.

It’s amazing these people have the ****ing gall to claim liberals play the victim card.
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They are trashing the Russia investigation right now as we speak. Of course they bury the lead: No impact on the investigation. I don't think Tucker will mention that lead at all.
 
Politico said... :roll:
 
Jetboogieman said:
Of course, Trump supporters are the most uninformed and least capable of disseminating information of any major political supporters of the modern age and so all this, along with Lindsay Graham says he... Will get to the real bottom of this and get the real baddies... Lulz... Trump supporters will continue to insist that there was some illegal and biased attempt to “get Trump” and his associates just... Because.

It’s amazing these people have the ****ing gall to claim liberals play the victim card.
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So was this a rant with no point, or just more personal stroking for the hell of it?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Of course, Trump supporters are the most uninformed and least capable of disseminating information of any major political supporters of the modern age and so all this, along with Lindsay Graham says he... Will get to the real bottom of this and get the real baddies... Lulz... Trump supporters will continue to insist that there was some illegal and biased attempt to “get Trump” and his associates just... Because.

It’s amazing these people have the ****ing gall to claim liberals play the victim card.
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Isn’t this what democrats said after the Muller report?
 
theLiquidGuy said:
(Sorry about the title. The report was not just about FISA)


From Politico...



  • The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
  • Lynch, Comey sat for IG interviews
  • No evidence political bias was a factor
  • Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were not decision-makers
  • Carter Page was the only Trump official under FISA surveillance
  • First Carter Page FISA contained ‘seven significant inaccuracies and omissions’
  • Steele dropped as FBI source after Mother Jones article
  • Steele had prior relationship with Ivanka Trump
  • Manafort was under investigation prior to Russia probe scrutiny

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways - POLITICO
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But wait...there's more!!

January 2017 the FBI contacted the Steele Dossier sub-source and was informed the dossier was remarkably unreliable, out of context, and full of “bar talk”.

January 2017 the FBI lied. Telling the FISA Court the sub-source validated the dossier as evidence in order to get a renewal; a claim they repeated in April.

June 2017 the CIA told FBI Lawyer Kevin Clinesmith that Carter Page was working for them; and then Clinesmith changed that notification so he could submit the last renewal.

 
theLiquidGuy said:
(Sorry about the title. The report was not just about FISA)


From Politico...



  • The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
  • Lynch, Comey sat for IG interviews
  • No evidence political bias was a factor
  • Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were not decision-makers
  • Carter Page was the only Trump official under FISA surveillance
  • First Carter Page FISA contained ‘seven significant inaccuracies and omissions’
  • Steele dropped as FBI source after Mother Jones article
  • Steele had prior relationship with Ivanka Trump
  • Manafort was under investigation prior to Russia probe scrutiny

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways - POLITICO
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"there were at least 17 "significant inaccuracies and omissions" in the Page FISA applications."
FISA report drops: 7 takeaways from DOJ watchdog'''s Russia probe review | Fox News
 
Oborosen said:
Yeah, their track record at this point is more than a little suspect.
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I haven't heard that politico is unreliable. Maybe you have. What exactly has politico reported that was false?



But this is how republicans have treated all argument. Attack the source. Attack the process. Attack anything else. But dont address the facts. Or in this case, the news.
Discredit all non-conservative leaning media. Because they don't bury unflattering news about Trump. It's fake news only if its bad for Trump.
 
Mycroft said:
But wait...there's more!!

January 2017 the FBI contacted the Steele Dossier sub-source and was informed the dossier was remarkably unreliable, out of context, and full of “bar talk”.

January 2017 the FBI lied. Telling the FISA Court the sub-source validated the dossier as evidence in order to get a renewal; a claim they repeated in April.

June 2017 the CIA told FBI Lawyer Kevin Clinesmith that Carter Page was working for them; and then Clinesmith changed that notification so he could submit the last renewal.

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Thats all fine and good,
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE: POLITICAL BIAS WAS NOT A FACTOR.
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS SHOULD NOW STEP DOWN. Realize that your leader is the head conspiracy theorist.
 
theLiquidGuy said:
Thats all fine and good,
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE: POLITICAL BIAS WAS NOT A FACTOR.
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS SHOULD NOW STEP DOWN. Realize that your leader is the head conspiracy theorist.
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shrug...

As Graham says, motivation is not all that important. Criminal actions IS important and needs to be dealt with.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Of course, Trump supporters are the most uninformed and least capable of disseminating information of any major political supporters of the modern age and so all this, along with Lindsay Graham says he... Will get to the real bottom of this and get the real baddies... Lulz... Trump supporters will continue to insist that there was some illegal and biased attempt to “get Trump” and his associates just... Because.

It’s amazing these people have the ****ing gall to claim liberals play the victim card.
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My goodness, did you see the clowns in Congress today? I'm talking about Jordan, Gohmert, and Goetz, for example. Such whiny little bitches, complaining about process and avoiding the overwhelming evidence. How far the GOP have fallen!
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

As Graham says, motivation is not all that important. Criminal actions IS important and needs to be dealt with.
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Fine. Deal with criminal action. Go ahead. But the investigation is vindicated. No more whining!

I didn't bother listening to Lindsey. I don't bother with him any more. Its a shame. I used to respect him.
He has ruined his reputation and is a huge hypocrite .
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

As Graham says, motivation is not all that important. Criminal actions IS important and needs to be dealt with.
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Yeah, that's all fine and good but so what?

POLITCAL BIAS DID NOT FACTOR IN.
 
Liquid Guy, I was hoping that if I used the Trump technique ... repeating something ad nauseum, it might finally sink in.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Liquid Guy, I was hoping that if I used the Trump technique ... repeating something ad nauseum, it might finally sink in.
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lol. Yep. You get it. Its all about repetition.


By the way, have I mentioned? BIAS DID NOT FACTOR IN. Let's have a vindication party! :2party:
 
theLiquidGuy said:
Fine. Deal with criminal action. Go ahead. But the investigation is vindicated. No more whining!

I didn't bother listening to Lindsey. I don't bother with him any more. Its a shame. I used to respect him.
He has ruined his reputation and is a huge hypocrite .
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No. The investigation is not "vindicated". Horowitz doesn't know anything about the "EC" that the FBI used to start it. That's what Durham is looking at and that's why Durham disagrees with the conclusion of the IG.
 
theLiquidGuy said:
Yeah, that's all fine and good but so what?

POLITCAL BIAS DID NOT FACTOR IN.


So stop whining. The FBI was fair with donald.
Some procedural details need to be ironed out. But the overall thrust of this report is clear. See above.
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I wasn't arguing the above.

You might want to stop whining, yourself.
Tsk, tsk, your spiel is a smelly strawman argument.

Got anything else?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah, that's all fine and good but so what?

POLITCAL BIAS DID NOT FACTOR IN.
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Tell me...what did Horowitz say about the political bias of Clinesmith? You know...the guy who deliberately changed an email and caused the FBI to lie to the FISA court.

Doesn't matter. Durham disagrees with Horowitz and Durham has a grand jury behind him.
 
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