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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yes wouldn't you just love that.
    No, I wouldn't, and I can't imagine why you would think I would. Why don't you try thinking about the good of the nation instead of partisan crap for a change?

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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, I wouldn't, and I can't imagine why you would think I would. Why don't you try thinking about the good of the nation instead of partisan crap for a change?
    So you agree that there is no reason for Trumpists in the House to be allowed to subpoena Biden and his son and that their innocence or guilt has no bearing on the impeachment inquiry?
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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You do know that the House Trumpists will demand subpoena rights so they can turn the investigation into a 3 ring circus by calling on Biden and his son to testify. That is the main reason for not taking a vote which is purely ceremonial since the speaker is well within her rights to call for an inquiry.
    Well, it's only fair that both sides be allowed to subpoena witnesses. If that's part of the inquiry process then we have to go through it sooner or later anyway.

    I think the most important thing is that there should be no grandstanding this time. Hire a professional to ask the questions. No facetime for candidates BS.

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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    I would like to know the picture trump supporters have in their heads as to what america should look like?

    They have shoved precedent to the side and yet demand the dems follow precedent. The party of law and order is blocking everything congress is asking for and lying in the process. An attorney general who decides in favor of the president on everything. A secretary of state who lies to protect the president. The secretary of the treasury who will not hand over trump's taxes and a secretary of education who is making students pay back funds for a defunct college. Totally against anyone brown coming into their wonderful america and who have no problem supporting people who march in streets chanting jews will not replace us.

    This is today's republican party....and let's not forget, a president who has lied thousands of times.
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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Well, it's only fair that both sides be allowed to subpoena witnesses. If that's part of the inquiry process then we have to go through it sooner or later anyway.

    I think the most important thing is that there should be no grandstanding this time. Hire a professional to ask the questions. No facetime for candidates BS.
    Actually no. The House inquiry is like a Grand Jury. There is no cross examination in a Grand Jury proceeding. Trump will have ample time to call witnesses in the Senate Trial. That is how the founders decreed it and that is how it will be. You don't have a problem with our Constitution do you?
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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    I would like to know the picture trump supporters have in their heads as to what america should look like?

    They have shoved precedent to the side and yet demand the dems follow precedent. The party of law and order is blocking everything congress is asking for and lying in the process. An attorney general who decides in favor of the president on everything. A secretary of state who lies to protect the president. The secretary of the treasury who will not hand over trump's taxes and a secretary of education who is making students pay back funds for a defunct college. Totally against anyone brown coming into their wonderful america and who have no problem supporting people who march in streets chanting jews will not replace us.

    This is today's republican party....and let's not forget, a president who has lied thousands of times.
    At least the poor people scammed by Trump into thousands of dollars in debt for Trump University go their money back and Trump was forced to settle a lawsuit.

    Why people would vote for a billionaire who swindles regular folks is something I cannot understand.

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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Actually no. The House inquiry is like a Grand Jury. There is no cross examination in a Grand Jury proceeding. Trump will have ample time to call witnesses in the Senate Trial. That is how the founders decreed it and that is how it will be. You don't have a problem with our Constitution do you?
    You're right. I learned more about it today.

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    Re: We've gone beyond political into right vs wrong and truth vs lies

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you agree that there is no reason for Trumpists in the House to be allowed to subpoena Biden and his son and that their innocence or guilt has no bearing on the impeachment inquiry?
    I'm not going to offer an opinion.

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