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    Re: Family separation...

    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress View Post
    Of course Wikipedia has never been known to be biased.

    "As immigration became the driving force behind unending U.S. population growth, John Tanton founded FAIR - the Federation for American Immigration Reform. He is publisher and former editor of The Social Contract. John Tanton is pro immigrant and pro legal immigration, but at reduced, sustainable numbers."
    Yes, and he was also a eugenicist and white nationalist. And CIS creates studies against immigrants and immigration, legal and illegal. Anyway the study isn't about massive fraud. It's about non-citizen legal use of aid programs. It doesn't support any claims that immigrants are cheating the government.

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    Yeah, Washington Times, now there's an unbiased site. If Democrats aren't allowed to use Rachel Maddow, Huffington Post and CNN as sources then conservatives don't get to use Washington Times.

    The article tells about people advising illegal immigrants on how not to get caught. Their 7 minute video is not a available to the public so it's not clear what they are advising but from the Times article they seem to be giving them information they are legally entitled to know. These advisors seem to be addressing the DACA 's who have a unfair and uncertain status and green card holders who are legally in the US.

    Jeff Sessions was correct when he said, "California law now requires immigration consequences to be factored into criminal cases. The state has also passed a law allowing people to erase or revise old convictions if they successfully argue that they were not advised at the time that a guilty or no-contest plea would endanger their immigration status".(WSJ and NYT). I agree, this is wrong and should stop. Unfortunately this is what happens when there are gross breeches of common sense and Republicans refuse to deal with the problem of children of illegal parents. Bad laws create bad reactions.

    Clean up the situation of DACAs and most of these non-legal circumventions of the law will end.

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    The fact is there is a solution to the immigration problem but it requires honesty about why our immigration laws are designed the way they are today, common sense instead of vindictiveness in re-structuring those immigration laws, some of the billions being spent on a symbolic wall and an easing up of the hating on DACA people.

    Oh, yeah and it would help if we would stop the social, economic, military and political meddling in other countries that's creating the the refugees and asylum seekers.

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    Re: Family separation...

    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress View Post
    Of course Wikipedia has never been known to be biased.
    I'm guessing the Wikipedia is less biased than Washington Time, The Center for Immigration Studies and National Sentinel.

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    Re: Family separation...

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Nobody, not Democrats, liberals, politicians, pundits or editors are shaming, denigrating, or labeling you for the type of suggestions you made above What is getting conservatives in trouble is their support for stupidities like:
    * multiple billions for a symbolic wall that will solve not one single immigration problem.
    *the support for conservative media's ugly and almost always untrue propaganda about immigrants, legal and illegal
    *the name calling
    * support for the unnecessarily brutal treatment of children of immigrants
    * the idiotic insistence that Democrats are for open borders.
    *the unreasonableness of denying children of illegal immigrants some sort of reasonable path to citizenship
    *the arrest of illegal workers but never the corporations that hire them.

    But most of all conservatives are called down because of your support of McConnell and the refusal to work toward re-structuring immigration laws or to budget personnel to alleviate the backlog while blaming Democrats for the problems with immigration.

    * multiple billions for a symbolic wall that will solve not one single immigration problem. opinion/wrong
    *the support for conservative media's ugly and almost always untrue propaganda about immigrants, legal and illegal opinion/wrong
    *the name calling documentation needed/opinion
    * support for the unnecessarily brutal treatment of children of immigrants opinion/wrong/baseless
    * the idiotic insistence that Democrats are for open borders. Dem policies support such
    *the unreasonableness of denying children of illegal immigrants some sort of reasonable path to citizenship no anchor baby allowance needed
    *the arrest of illegal workers but never the corporations that hire them. longstanding policy supported by both parties
    “Now any dogma, based primarily on faith and emotionalism, is a dangerous weapon to use on others, since it is almost impossible to guarantee that the weapon will never be turned on the user.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress View Post
    * multiple billions for a symbolic wall that will solve not one single immigration problem. opinion/wrong
    *the support for conservative media's ugly and almost always untrue propaganda about immigrants, legal and illegal opinion/wrong
    *the name calling documentation needed/opinion
    * support for the unnecessarily brutal treatment of children of immigrants opinion/wrong/baseless
    * the idiotic insistence that Democrats are for open borders. Dem policies support such
    *the unreasonableness of denying children of illegal immigrants some sort of reasonable path to citizenship no anchor baby allowance needed
    *the arrest of illegal workers but never the corporations that hire them. longstanding policy supported by both parties
    Yes, those are my opinions.

    Actually the wall is not an opinion. Experts in immigration control have said what they need is more personnel, better remote surveillance, faster processing, better facilities for housing, walls around heavily trafficked border crossing areas to funnel border crossing into official entry points and a re-structuring and clarification of immigration law.

    Help yourself to a beg scoop of denial. Keep telling us how Trump is working for you. That will make Democrats stop labeling.

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