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Elizabeth Warren calls for total ban on all gun sales - NOT even Revolutionary War muskets!

joko104 said:
I specified "rifles," not firearms. Firearms kill more. ARs, AKs and all the firearms that fall into that statistical category of "rifles."

As for other methods, most of all I was mostly talking about mass murderers. Bombs and arson attacks have killed the most people in an attack, not counting 9-11. Think of what if the Vegas shooter - a pilot - had rented a 6 seat ordinary airplane, put a couple drums of gasoline and a hundred power bomb out of ordinary gun powder who can buy many stores with no ID or by mail - no ID required - putting it where the back seats were - and flying it at 150 mph at a 45 degree angle at the beginning of where thousands of people were at that concert - skidding thru them as an explosive fireball at over 100 mph? He would have killed hundreds instantly - no defense against it - maybe over 1000 and hundreds or maybe nearly all survivors in unthinkable pain from permanently and massively disfiguring 3rd degree burns.

Every time I hear of a mass shooter using something like an AR15 (a 22 caliber) I am glad that is what was used. Most will only be wounded and it would a tiny fraction of how many people a mass murderer could kill by other cheap and easy other ways - even can be easier and cheaper - plus for bombs and arson the mass murderer has an excellent chance of getting away and no one knowing who did it - plus no defense possible.
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Good point.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
THIS is the reason for the pushback for gun laws.

Once these lunatics get to confiscate something...anything...they'll eventually come back and confiscate EVERYTHING.
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Speaking of lunatics......

(CNN)A man accused of walking into a Walmart in Missouri equipped with body armor, a handgun and a rifle less than a week after a gunman killed 22 people in a Texas Walmart said it was a "social experiment" and not intended to cause panic, police say.

"I wanted to know if that Walmart honored the Second Amendment," Dmitriy Andreychenko told investigators, according to a probable cause statement filed by Springfield police.
Andreychenko, 20, was arrested Thursday after panic ensued when he walked into the store that afternoon with his rifle slung across his chest, pushing a shopping cart and recording himself with a cell phone, police say.
Patrons fled the store, police were called, and an off-duty firefighter detained Andreychenko until officers arrived to take him into custody, police said.
He told investigators he intended to buy grocery bags, and didn't intend for any negative reaction, police said. And he claimed the recording was in case anyone stopped him and asked him to leave, police said.
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Armed man who caused panic at a Walmart in Missouri said it was a 'social experiment,' police say - CNN

Wanna guess if he is a Trumpist or not? He is of course.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I sure wish our government was as interested in addressing those things that are killing so many Americans, including the despair that results in so many suicides, as it is in taking guns away from people who are not the problem.
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At least one party is trying... you know, the one wanting larger safety nets, livable wages, affordable healthcare, no crushing student loan debts, improved education
 
Slavister said:
At least one party is trying... you know, the one wanting larger safety nets, livable wages, affordable healthcare, no crushing student loan debts, improved education
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But too often they give us solutions that create more problems which says they are operating out of political expediency rather than that they are focused on actually solving a problem. The left are really big on lip service, grand standing, and politicking, but have a really poor record on follow through. They settle for what sounds good and ignore any unintended negative consequences or that their program or law didn't accomplish much.

For instance California has the toughest gun laws in the country, is the most socialist of all 50 states, with the toughest environmental laws and such, but 35 states are rated safer than California when it comes to crime and 32 states have lower poverty rates by capita. It is about in the middle when it comes to environment.

We should all look past what sounds good or looks noble in headlines, and start looking at what will actually solve problems and accomplish good things. Sometimes government does have the solution and sometimes the solution is getting government out of the way. I think most on the left don't look at it that way at all. For them, if the 'good' people are doing it, support it no matter whether it is a good thing to do. If the 'wrong' people are doing it, oppose it despite how sensible or important it is. If the motives are right, then it is worth doing and we can just ignore the negative consequences and believe they don't exist.

It's ban certain guns to fix a problem and just ignore all the other components that have nothing to do with guns.

From the perspective of somebody like me, that is just nuts.
 
AlbqOwl said:
But too often they give us solutions that create more problems which says they are operating out of political expediency rather than that they are focused on actually solving a problem. The left are really big on lip service, grand standing, and politicking, but have a really poor record on follow through.
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Poor record? Really? Which party is responsible for most if not all safety nets we have today? The left is fighting to get us moving in the right direction. Fine, there will be setbacks and failures along the way. Fine, if you are cynical enough, you could claim much of it is just to get votes. At the end of the day though, they are moving us toward solving the problem. The right is moving us in opposite direction.
 
Slavister said:
Poor record? Really? Which party is responsible for most if not all safety nets we have today? The left is fighting to get us moving in the right direction. Fine, there will be setbacks and failures along the way. Fine, if you are cynical enough, you could claim much of it is just to get votes. At the end of the day though, they are moving us toward solving the problem. The right is moving us in opposite direction.
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You mean the policy established by LBJ to "keep those uppity n*ggers in their place," destroying the heart of black communities - the family unit - creating multi-generational welfare life style? Those kind of safety nets?
 
joko104 said:
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[FONT=&]Companies that sell guns have a responsibility to the safety of their communities. @Walmart is one of the largest gun retailers in the world. The weapons they sell are killing their own customers and employees. No profit is worth those lives. Do the right thing—stop selling guns.
https://twitter.com/ewarren

WalMart sells NO handguns of any kind, NO guns of any kind that use a magazine, only selling low capacity or single hunting shot rifles, shotguns and muzzle loading black powder muskets (1 shot rifle) like in the Revolutionary War over 200 years ago.

Democratic candidate for president Elizabeth Warren claims people are using single shot, muzzle loading long barrel black powder muskets are killing WaMart customers and employees - calling for WalMart and all companies to stop selling them, from selling any single shot bolt action rifle, or any single shot shotgun. Even Joe Biden's wife's double barrel shotgun should be banned according to her.

This constitutes her calling for a 100% total ban on all gun sales of any kind whatsoever, even 300 year old design long barrel muskets, to make Americans the most disarmed people on earth. 100% defenseless.

No Democratic candidate has condemned her and many have joined in with her.

We keep learning Democratic politicians and the Democratic Party are absolute total liars in anything they say. They furiously insist the oppose open borders then - SURPRISE - they are for decriminalization - which is open borders.

They claim they do not want to ban people from having guns - just the really bad ones - and then SURPRISE - they are for a 100% ban on every firearm of any kind, even the kind used back in 1776 or back in the 1600s - ANY firearm.

This is simple. If Democrats gain control of the presidency and both houses of Congress they will outlaw every gun in the USA - whether made in 1600 or yesterday - even BB guns actually (which are considered a "gun" in law). In her open opinion, ONLY the top people in government should be protected by guns - but I bet the also make it so the super rich, herself and other millionaires are a exception who can be surrounded by their own private little armies of heavy armed person security for themselves.

Us? Us peasant can be raped, tortured, kidnapped, murdered for all Senator Warren cares. Why would she possibly care what happens to us dirty poor peasants? Only the rich and the elites like her should have any right to defend our children.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS TO BAN 100% OF ALL FIREARMS - NO EXCEPTIONS - or at least Senator Warren does. If do not want to be made a federal felon and imprisoned for having any firearm of any kind, ever may want to and/or don't want to surrender ANY AND EVERY firearm you have to the government, YOU MUST VOTE REPUBLICAN!
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Warren is a liar for sure but she may also just be stupid. Do you really think she bothered to check to see what kinds of guns Walmart sales in its sporting goods department? I doubt it. Her aids are most likely even more left wing socialist nuts than she is and thats where she's getting her information.
 
joko104 said:
You mean the policy established by LBJ to "keep those uppity n*ggers in their place," destroying the heart of black communities - the family unit - creating multi-generational welfare life style? Those kind of safety nets?
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If you want to talk about LBJ, then Medicare would be the kind of policy that I am talking about - he signed it in, along with Democrats voting for it in House and Senate, while Republicans objected of course.
 
Warren did not call for a gun ban or any government action at all - she is simply making an emotional appeal to gun retailers to (voluntarily) stop selling guns for community safety. Read her Tweet, slowly and carefully, and relax yourself.
 
swing_voter said:
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Walmart is a target of the left wing, like most prosperous American companies are.
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We should shut down all prosperous companies in this country. Especially companies like the oil industry that support middle class and upper middle class jobs and send them to India where they can be done for slave labor. This is how we democrats support the working class. Oh and don't worry about those low paying jobs. We will bring in illegal slave labor to do those from other countries. Everyone in this country can go on welfare.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Of course he wasn't a "Trumpist." Otherwise he would have emptied six magazines while blasting Ted Nugent music, waving an "Don't Treat On Me" flag, right?
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There are all kinds of lunatics and yes he was a Trump supporter. He would have more likely been waving the Russian flag though.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Warren did not call for a gun ban or any government action at all - she is simply making an emotional appeal to gun retailers to (voluntarily) stop selling guns for community safety. Read her Tweet, slowly and carefully, and relax yourself.
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Duh, she doesn't have the power to ban guns. But she wants it.

Still, that she wants ALL guns sales of any kind in the USA stopped - and as president would pressure companies to do so - is still the same mindset. She WANTS all ordinary people totally disarmed.

Sure, she'd like us all us peasants to voluntarily become defenseless sheep to ever predator on earth - all which is invites here with open borders decriminalization. This is the elitist mindset. Why should she give a damn what happens to us peasants? She lives behind a wall and the government protects here with guns.

What matters to Elizabeth Warren is that she wants to pay illegal immigrants as little as possible to mow her yard, clean her house, do her clothes, wash and wax her car, make her meals, get the door for her - and mostly to hear her inferior race to her mind illegals say "yes ma'am" while bowing their heads to avoid being fired - all to affirm her superiority, power and wealth.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
THIS is the reason for the pushback for gun laws.

Once these lunatics get to confiscate something...anything...they'll eventually come back and confiscate EVERYTHING.
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will she call for a ban on war clubs or tomahawks? Good thing I have taken some courses on fighting with tomahawks!
 
What about bows and arrows?

I don't suppose she has a problem with those, now does she?

A tomahawk?

Personally, I don't think scum bottom vagrants who openly call for violating the Constitution should be allowed to hold nor run for public office.

How are they suppose to take an oath to defend what they've already previously attacked?
 
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