'Trump Told the Truth about Epstein Relationship', confirms Private Investigators

Best selling crime writer James Patterson hired private investigators to look into the Jeffrey Epstein affair, as part of his research into Epstein which was turned into a book. Patterson, a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, hired 3 private investigators to look into the Epstein case-

Intelligencer: "There are so many ongoing mysteries involved in this story. For example, do you think Epstein will implicate other prominent people?"

Patterson: "I think names are going to be thrown around, and I don’t like that. When we wrote the book, we really tried to be careful. We had three private eyes out there looking for stuff, and if anything was doubtful, we just didn’t put it in.

We did investigate President Trump and, yeah, we did find that he threw Epstein out of the club. We heard that from people who were around Palm Beach. I interviewed the woman who ran the spa there, and I asked her, “Did you know Jeffrey Epstein?” She said, “Oh yeah, I did. He used to come to the spa.” She found him to be inappropriate to young girls there. She said she went to Mr. Trump and Mr. Trump threw him out."

James Patterson on Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Unbelievable’ Crimes


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If the media suddenly stops talking about Epstein's case, you can be sure that A) they've given up trying to tie Trump in with the sexual abuse, and B) they never cared about exposing Epstein or his fellow degenerates in the first place, only about nailing Trump.

truthatallcost said:

Best selling crime writer James Patterson hired private investigators to look into the Jeffrey Epstein affair, as part of his research into Epstein which was turned into a book. Patterson, a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, hired 3 private investigators to look into the Epstein case-



If the media suddenly stops talking about Epstein's case, you can be sure that A) they've given up trying to tie Trump in with the sexual abuse, and B) they never cared about exposing Epstein or his fellow degenerates in the first place, only about nailing Trump.

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Plus, they don't want to be a part of any of their friends...such as Bill Clinton...being tied to Epstein. If there's no Trump connection, this story will drop into an editorial black hole.

truthatallcost said:

Best selling crime writer James Patterson hired private investigators to look into the Jeffrey Epstein affair, as part of his research into Epstein which was turned into a book. Patterson, a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, hired 3 private investigators to look into the Epstein case-



If the media suddenly stops talking about Epstein's case, you can be sure that A) they've given up trying to tie Trump in with the sexual abuse, and B) they never cared about exposing Epstein or his fellow degenerates in the first place, only about nailing Trump.

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What do the private investigations say about the activities when Trump & Epstein hosted over two dozen young women in their own party?

Was anyone really questioning this component of the Trump and Epstein relationship?

haymarket said:

What do the private investigations say about the activities when Trump & Epstein hosted over two dozen young women in their own party?

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They were 'adult' young women. Cant you be honest about anything?

Fletch said:

They were 'adult' young women. Cant you be honest about anything?

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I am deeply sorry for any error I may have made. Simply present the names and ages of all those present and a list of the activities of each participant.

haymarket said:

OI am deeply sorry for any error I may have made. Simply present the names and ages of all those present and a list of the activities of each participant.

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Youre not sorry at all. The party in question consisted of professional cheerleaders. If you have some evidence that any were under age, lay it out there.

Fletch said:

Youre not sorry at all. The party in question consisted of professional cheerleaders. If you have some evidence that any were under age, lay it out there.

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Where is the factual information to support your claim?

here it is from you

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They were 'adult' young women.

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That is a claim of fact. Simply present the requested information which supports your claim so we know you did not invent it.

haymarket said:

Where is the factual information to support your claim?

here it is from you



That is a claim of fact. Simply present the requested information which supports your claim so we know you did not invent it.

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Why don't you prove the girls at this party were underage ??

I've read nothing that indicates these “calendar girls" were underage, have you ??

hanger4 said:

Why don't you prove the girls at this party were underage ??

I've read nothing that indicates these “calendar girls" were underage, have you ??

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I never said they were of any age other than "young women".

It is interesting that the man who procured the females for the party describes them as "girls" and not as adult women. That may or may not tell us anything but the use of the term "girls" is extremely interesting.

28 women reportedly sent to Mar-a-Lago in 1992 for VIP party of two—Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

Florida businessman George Houraney said he was the one who fulfilled Trump’s request in 1992 for the beautiful women to attend a VIP party at the Trump property. “I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Houraney told the Times in an interview this week. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.” That the party wasn’t really a party at all surprised Houraney. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’ ” Houraney recalled. “I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls.’ ” Houraney told Trump that he had “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events” but said “Trump didn’t care about that.”

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The term from Houraney also was "younger girls". But Trump did not seem to care about that.

haymarket said:

I never said they were of any age other than "young women".

It is interesting that the man who procured the females for the party describes them as "girls" and not as adult women. That may or may not tell us anything but the use of the term "girls" is extremely interesting.

28 women reportedly sent to Mar-a-Lago in 1992 for VIP party of two—Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.



The term from Houraney also was "younger girls". But Trump did not seem to care about that.

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I've read nothing that indicates these “calendar girls" were underage, have you ?? If there was the slightest indication these girls were underage or even just one the MSM would be on it like a chicken on a June bug.

Using the term "girls" means nothing haymarket. My wife (60 something) goes out with the "girls" at least once week, all of which are 60+.

You're flailing haymarket, not to mention the person telling the story would be considered a hostile witness.

hanger4 said:

I've read nothing that indicates these “calendar girls" were underage, have you ?? If there was the slightest indication these girls were underage or even just one the MSM would be on it like a chicken on a June bug.

Using the term "girls" means nothing haymarket. My wife (60 something) goes out with the "girls" at least once week, all of which are 60+.

You're flailing haymarket, not to mention the person telling the story would be considered a hostile witness.

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Look - all I am asking for is for the poster to back up their alleged claim of fact that the attendees to that party with Trump and Epstein were all adults. I figured they had a guest list and proof of age to make that statement - especially when the person who procured the female used the term GIRLS and YOUNGER GIRLS.

again, here was the posters claim of alleged fact

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They were 'adult' young women.

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Regarding your wife and the term GIRL or GIRLS .... I know people misuse terms all the time. We all have done it. But it is interesting that the online dictionary defines GIRL in its most common meaning as a female child.

haymarket said:

Look - all I am asking for is for the poster to back up their alleged claim of fact that the attendees to that party with Trump and Epstein were all adults. I figured they had a guest list and proof of age to make that statement - especially when the person who procured the female used the term GIRLS and YOUNGER GIRLS.

again, here was the posters claim of alleged fact



Regarding your wife and the term GIRL or GIRLS .... I know people misuse terms all the time. We all have done it. But it is interesting that the online dictionary defines GIRL in its most common meaning as a female child.

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*I figured they had a guest list and proof of age to make that statement - especially when the person who procured the female used the term GIRLS and YOUNGER GIRLS.*

Again, your proof is the fact that the MSM hasn't indicated in any way these “calendar girls” are underage. You know as well as I if there was just one it would be national headlines.

*But it is interesting that the online dictionary defines GIRL in its most common meaning as a female child.*

The dictionary also says;

"a young or relatively young woman."

truthatallcost said:

Best selling crime writer James Patterson hired private investigators to look into the Jeffrey Epstein affair, as part of his research into Epstein which was turned into a book. Patterson, a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, hired 3 private investigators to look into the Epstein case-



If the media suddenly stops talking about Epstein's case, you can be sure that A) they've given up trying to tie Trump in with the sexual abuse, and B) they never cared about exposing Epstein or his fellow degenerates in the first place, only about nailing Trump.

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Who is tying Trump to the sexual abuse?

And who doubts that Trump threw him out of his club?

hanger4 said:

*I figured they had a guest list and proof of age to make that statement - especially when the person who procured the female used the term GIRLS and YOUNGER GIRLS.*

Again, your proof is the fact that the MSM hasn't indicated in any way these “calendar girls” are underage. You know as well as I if there was just one it would be national headlines.

*But it is interesting that the online dictionary defines GIRL in its most common meaning as a female child.*

The dictionary also says;

"a young or relatively young woman."

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I gave you the FIRST and most common usage of the word GIRL from the online dictionary. But it is nice to see that even your definition specifies YOUNG.

Here is the statement from the poster at issue

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They were 'adult' young women.

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So where is the evidence of this alleged fact?

truthatallcost said:

Best selling crime writer James Patterson hired private investigators to look into the Jeffrey Epstein affair, as part of his research into Epstein which was turned into a book. Patterson, a resident of Palm Beach, Florida, hired 3 private investigators to look into the Epstein case-



If the media suddenly stops talking about Epstein's case, you can be sure that A) they've given up trying to tie Trump in with the sexual abuse, and B) they never cared about exposing Epstein or his fellow degenerates in the first place, only about nailing Trump.

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More right wing fiction, god damn, that garbage you guys post is truly astonishing

haymarket said:

I gave you the FIRST and most common usage of the word GIRL from the online dictionary. But it is nice to see that even your definition specifies YOUNG.

Here is the statement from the poster at issue



So where is the evidence of this alleged fact?

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Young is an ambiguous term haymarket, you know that. 40 somethings are young to me and you. 18 - 20 somethings are very young to you and me but not underaged.

Third time haymarket, the evidence is the MSM's lack of using the term "underage".

hanger4 said:

Young is an ambiguous term haymarket, you know that. 40 somethings are young to me and you. 18 - 20 somethings are very young to you and me but not underaged.

Third time haymarket, the evidence is the MSM's lack of using the term "underage".

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Yes - you have a good point about youth being relative. That is why I specifically asked for the poster to prove their allegation that these young women were all adults as they had claimed.

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They were 'adult' young women.

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Fletch was very very clear in stating this. I merely want some evidence to back up this claim. Given the proven propensity of Epstein for younger girls and the words of Houraney the man who procured the females for the event and his concerns, I think it is more than a reasonable request of Fletch.

haymarket said:

Yes - you have a good point about youth being relative. That is why I specifically asked for the poster to prove their allegation that these young women were all adults as they had claimed.



Fletch was very very clear in stating this. I merely want some evidence to back up this claim. Given the proven propensity of Epstein for younger girls and the words of Houraney the man who procured the females for the event and his concerns, I think it is more than a reasonable request of Fletch.

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If these "calendar girls" were underage why didn't Houraney say so ?? And considering the MSM isn't alleging these "calendar girls" were underage you have your answer.

Mycroft said:

Plus, they don't want to be a part of any of their friends...such as Bill Clinton...being tied to Epstein. If there's no Trump connection, this story will drop into an editorial black hole.

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Here is the problem for Trump. For 20 years, Epstein and Trump were pals, they hung out together, and they chased younger women together. Many people knew about Epstein's relationshiops with CHILDREN, including Trump. Epstein had children in his apartment and on his plane, and all the men who partied with him, knew it. None of them ever said or did anything.

Trump knew that Jeffrey Epstein was behaving inappropriately around children and he didn't report it - not even when he tossed Epstein out of his club for his inappropriate behaviour. If I discovered that one of my friends was sexally abusing children, I wouldn't hesitate to report him to the police. I have in the past reported close family members who were abusing children, to child welfare authorities, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

Trump co-operated with the investigation. Big Whoop! Why didn't he report Epstein 20 years prior? Why did he continue to hang out with him? Why didn't he STOP EPSTEIN FROM RAPING CHILDREN?

Trump is not alone in his being complicate. Not by a long shot.

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Who is tying Trump to the sexual abuse?

And who doubts that Trump threw him out of his club?

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Probably the lefties. They are the spawn of evil, after all.

Dragonlady said:

Here is the problem for Trump. For 20 years, Epstein and Trump were pals, they hung out together, and they chased younger women together. Many people knew about Epstein's relationshiops with CHILDREN, including Trump. Epstein had children in his apartment and on his plane, and all the men who partied with him, knew it. None of them ever said or did anything.

Trump knew that Jeffrey Epstein was behaving inappropriately around children and he didn't report it - not even when he tossed Epstein out of his club for his inappropriate behaviour. If I discovered that one of my friends was sexally abusing children, I wouldn't hesitate to report him to the police. I have in the past reported close family members who were abusing children, to child welfare authorities, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

Trump co-operated with the investigation. Big Whoop! Why didn't he report Epstein 20 years prior? Why did he continue to hang out with him? Why didn't he STOP EPSTEIN FROM RAPING CHILDREN?

Trump is not alone in his being complicate. Not by a long shot.

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You are making a lot of claims that I don't think I've seen any justification for. Do you have any actual facts?

hanger4 said:

If these "calendar girls" were underage why didn't Houraney say so ?? And considering the MSM isn't alleging these "calendar girls" were underage you have your answer.

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In a way - he did. Houraney said he was considered about Epstein going after your girls. But Trump did not seem to care about that reputation.

But all that is speculation which is why I would like Fletch to proved the verifiable evidence of his claim that the females were adults.

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Mycroft said:

You are making a lot of claims that I don't think I've seen any justification for. Do you have any actual facts?

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The NBC tape of Trump and Epstein partying with a bunch of teenage and 20 something cheerleaders at Mar-a-lago in the 1990's. The businessman who tried to promote a "calender girl" competition at Trump's casinos, who showed up with 24 models for a live demonstration of the program to Trump and found that that only two people there for the demonstration were Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. The lawsuit filed by one of "Epstein's Girls" alleging that Trump and Epstein took turns raping her at Trump's apartment when she was 13. Her court filing contained the sworn affidavit of one of Epsteins former employees, who witnessed the attacks. The fact that Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago, after he received reports of inappropriate behaviour with the daughters of club members, but no report to the police.

I'm just waiting for the video they recovered with the search warrants (which I'm sure are being executed in every jurisdiction where Epstein owns property), has to say. Early indications are that this stuff is explosive. How does a guy with no apparent job and no apparent skills, other than his ability to lure young girls into his sex trafficking ring, make hundreds of millions of dollars per year? The women who were assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein are starting to come forward with their stories.

Trump started blowing up over the Squad the day after Epstein was arrested. Every time Trump is scared poop-less about something, he goes berzerk on Twitter, over Comey, over Hillary, over SOMETHING. That whole Anthony Scaramucci espisode occurred while Bill Browder, the American businessman whose whistleblowing about Russian government theft from Russian companies, resulting in Western Democracies passing the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions Vladimir Putin and his oligarchs for extortion and murder, and keeps them from travelling to the west. Trump has promised Putin to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, and the entire week that Browder gave his absolutely hair curling public testimony to the Senate, Trump was hiring Scaramuccie, firing Rance Priebus and Sean Spicer, dealing with the outrage that was Scaramuccie in the White House, and the day after Bill Browder finished his testimony, Trump fired Scaramuccie. In thanks for his service, the multi-million dollar sale of Scaramuccie's business holdings to a Chinese corporation, was approved without a hitch, and the public never heard what Browder said. I'll provide a the transcript:

Read the Full Text of Bill Browder's Testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee - The Atlantic

Dragonlady said:

The NBC tape of Trump and Epstein partying with a bunch of teenage and 20 something cheerleaders at Mar-a-lago in the 1990's. The businessman who tried to promote a "calender girl" competition at Trump's casinos, who showed up with 24 models for a live demonstration of the program to Trump and found that that only two people there for the demonstration were Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. The lawsuit filed by one of "Epstein's Girls" alleging that Trump and Epstein took turns raping her at Trump's apartment when she was 13. Her court filing contained the sworn affidavit of one of Epsteins former employees, who witnessed the attacks. The fact that Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago, after he received reports of inappropriate behaviour with the daughters of club members, but no report to the police.

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Even the ultra-Trump-hating, left wing website Huffington Post had to admit that the lawsuit against Trump was a dumpster fire:

Katie Johnson's backer has to be a man who may or may not be named Al Taylor, but is more likely named Norm Lubow, and was apparently a former producer for “The Jerry Springer Show.”

Media outlets that have tried to get in touch with Johnson have had extreme difficulty doing so. The Daily Beast did a deep dive into the case and the people supporting the accuser in July, and came to a devastating conclusion: “Far from derailing the Trump train, Katie Johnson and her supporters seem to be in an out-of-control clown car whose wheels just came off,” wrote Brandy Zadrozny.

The Guardian and Jezebel also looked into the situation and came up with equally unfavorable takes. A writer who actually talked to Johnson came away confused about what to make of the allegations. It’s unclear if anybody has managed to speak to Tiffany Doe or Joan Doe, the two witnesses cited in the case. “Jezebel, The Guardian and The Daily Beast effectively poisoned the well on Katie’s credibility,” Baer lamented to HuffPost, accurately.

Donald Trump Is Accused Of Raping A 13-Year-Old. Why Haven't The Media Covered It? | HuffPost

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Katie Johnson (fake name) had 2 people claim to be witnesses in the alleged assault by Trump, who also used fake names. Which one of these worked at Mar a Lago?