3rd Red Scare: Right wing paranoia will win Trump 2020 election

They hate America.
They want Socialism.
They want open borders.
They want to ban guns.

We aren't even in 2020 yet, and the right wing media and political machine has already written its political narrative. It is not a narrative geared towards moderates but one of extremely effective rhetoric aimed at the base and the intent has already been announced, turn the fanatic support of Trump among the remaining GOP into turnout and carve a path to victory through the electoral college and to hell with the national popular vote.

I predicted Trump would win in 2016 and I am now predicting he will win in 2020 because the Democrats have nothing to build the level of strong support that Trump enjoys among the far right. The economy is still strong and stable, we are in a period of relative peace, and policies have not yet swung hard enough to make an impact on the day to day life of the average liberal voter. Trump enjoyed more support among his base with the recent race baiting and the progressives are all too willing to play into the "us vs. them" story line that has been laid out the last 4 years. Trump and his media pals have turned the success of the last election into a liability for the Democrats by using the newly empowered far left to incite fear and paranoia in the entrenched far right. It is even apparent on this forum how effective this strategy is as threads fall into extreme partisan overgeneralizations with little basis in reality. I am calling it now, we have entered the 3rd Red Scare.

Trump will win 2020 because all the democrats running are assholes. Higher taxes, open borders, free health care for illegals and yes socialism! I watched the debates, I know what they are promising. It has nothing to do with “right wing paranoia.”

This is nothing new. It's been the republican agenda for decades, fear. Fear everyone who doesn't think like a republican, like you think. 'They' are the enemy of true patriots. Elect a dem, kill the country. This is nothing new. I also disagree with you. I don't think the constant attacks on americans, american institutions, and soon mueller again when the hearings start. Hate and fear it is and has been the republican platform for decades.

Crystal said:

Trump will win 2020 because all the democrats running are assholes. Higher taxes, open borders, free health care for illegals and yes socialism! I watched the debates, I know what they are promising. It has nothing to do with “right wing paranoia.”

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Trump promised you and folks like you a wall and better, cheaper healthcare. Do you have either?

Crystal said:

Trump will win 2020 because all the democrats running are assholes. Higher taxes, open borders, free health care for illegals and yes socialism! I watched the debates, I know what they are promising. It has nothing to do with “right wing paranoia.”

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Not a single candidate supports open borders, but thank you for proving my point.

bongsaway said:

Trump promised you and folks like you a wall and better, cheaper healthcare. Do you have either?

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Every one of them do. Not one of them has voted to build the wall, they want to decriminalize the crossing illegally and give them free health care! You have no point.

i predict that i will be voting against Tweety and his zombie cult.

Crystal said:

Every one of them do. Not one of them has voted to build the wall, they want to decriminalize the crossing illegally and give them free health care! You have no point.

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Was that a non answer to the question. His republican held house and senate could have given him the money to do both, they didn't so blaming dems has no point.

The left is leaning too far the the left and the left thinks Trump is leaning too far to the right.

Most of the people in the middle will probably feel more secure in 2020 and accept the status quo, Trump President and DEMS congress is a good combination.
While all the idiots we elect are screaming and yelling at one another, the rest of us can move on with our lives.

The only thing Trump has to worry about is the economy, at this point we have proven beyond all doubt that there is no other standard for Republicans and as such no real reason for Independents to hand things over to anyone from this lot of Democratic hopefuls still horrifically trying to outdo one another in ‘the who can be most liberal’ game.

Democrats learned nothing from 2016, and Trump is set up to win a 2nd term and probably still not have the popular vote doing so... much to the detriment of this nation and any sense of social continuity or civil discourse.

bongsaway said:

Trump promised you and folks like you a wall and better, cheaper healthcare. Do you have either?

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It's not for lack of trying. You can...and should...blame Congress for not having those things.

But, of course, you are glad we don't have those, right?

OrphanSlug said:

The only thing Trump has to worry about is the economy, at this point we have proven beyond all doubt that there is no other standard for Republicans and as such no real reason for Independents to hand things over to anyone from this lot of Democratic hopefuls still horrifically trying to outdo one another in ‘the who can be most liberal’ game.

Democrats learned nothing from 2016, and Trump is set up to win a 2nd term and probably still not have the popular vote doing so... much to the detriment of this nation and any sense of social continuity or civil discourse.

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Indeed. It's been pretty sad watching this battle for liberal bragging rights especially when it's pretty clear the battle is for the independents. What's sad in all of this is most reasonable voters are stuck between two polar opposite choices.

Mycroft said:

It's not for lack of trying. You can...and should...blame Congress for not having those things.

But, of course, you are glad we don't have those, right?

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What exactly is the GOP plan for healthcare? Make things prohibitively expensive for those with preexisting conditions and crap coverage for the young? That was somehow better?

CriticalThought said:

What exactly is the GOP plan for healthcare? Make things prohibitively expensive for those with preexisting conditions and crap coverage for the young? That was somehow better?

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The GOP? Their plan is to keep Obamacare and oppose Trump's attempts to toss it in the trash.

ElChupacabra said:

Indeed. It's been pretty sad watching this battle for liberal bragging rights especially when it's pretty clear the battle is for the independents. What's sad in all of this is most reasonable voters are stuck between two polar opposite choices.

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It’s been that way going back at least 5 Presidents, where our more modern political party ideologies end up based on exclusion far more than any sense of inclusion.

Our issue is what tends to move Independents is not the extreme of either party saying whatever they drill on and on about at the typical pep rally’s both sides tend to run with. All we have is major issues to move those votes. The economy, a war, oil price ridiculousness, something along those lines that forces Independents to look at things another way.

As long as the economy continues to muddle along with this indicator or that indicator used for political advantage we have no real reason to conclude Independents, right leaning moderates, and Republicans to vote differently.

At this point Trump could get caught getting another golden shower from some other Russian prostitute given to him by Putin and Republicans would *still* think he is the most biblical President of our time. The popular vote does not really matter, all that does is just enough Independents to ensure the EC in key states. Just like 2016. Absent the economy turning south perhaps a conflict with Iran would change a few opinions but I am not even sure about that.

I’m stuck at the same conclusion, Democrats did not learn a damn thing in 2016 and 2020 may end up to the same ends no matter who from this lot ends up with the nod.

Crystal said:

Trump will win 2020 because all the democrats running are assholes. Higher taxes, open borders, free health care for illegals and yes socialism! I watched the debates, I know what they are promising. It has nothing to do with “right wing paranoia.”

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Literally no one in the debates said a single word about open borders. Hell, only two or three people have even signed on with the medicare for all proposition, let alone say non-citizens should be insured.

You have literally nothing but right wing paranoia.

Jesse Booth said:

Literally no one in the debates said a single word about open borders. Hell, only two or three people have even signed on with the medicare for all proposition, let alone say non-citizens should be insured.

You have literally nothing but right wing paranoia.

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Then you have no understanding of what happened. Your problem not mine.

Crystal said:

Then you have no understanding of what happened. Your problem not mine.

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No, your hallucinations are YOUR problem. It doesn't bother me one bit that you can't interact with reality effectively.

Jesse Booth said:

No, your hallucinations are YOUR problem. It doesn't bother me one bit that you can't interact with reality effectively.

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You are trying to ignore reality. Keep it up.

Crystal said:

"NO, YOU'RE WRONG!"

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A goddamn "I know you are, but what am I" in 2019? I haven't seen a comeback that pathetic since I was in 3rd grade. You still haven't proved that the Dems are saying these things they don't say, so your claims can be easily dismissed as pathetic ravings straight from Lalaland.

bongsaway said:

Was that a non answer to the question. His republican held house and senate could have given him the money to do both, they didn't so blaming dems has no point.

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Your post has nothing to do with the topic on the table. Castro has specifically said he advocates open borders. The rest advocate decriminalization. All advocate free stuff for decriminalized border invaders.

Do nothing Republican Congress is a valid but separate issue.

Jesse Booth said:

A goddamn "I know you are, but what am I" in 2019? I haven't seen a comeback that pathetic since I was in 3rd grade. You still haven't proved that the Dems are saying these things they don't say, so your claims can be easily dismissed as pathetic ravings straight from Lalaland.

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Reality bites you in da butt!

Crystal said:

Reality bites you in da butt!

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So you still have no evidence for your delusional claims?

Jesse Booth said:

So you still have no evidence for your delusional claims?

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You should watch the debates! Then ask me questions! :lamo

Crystal said:

You should watch the debates! Then ask me questions! :lamo

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I did. Now where which fold in your small intestine did you pull your open borders bull**** out of?