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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nap View Post
    Or rather than this need to place everything at the federal level, each state can vote on how they want to do their healthcare. You know actually let people have more of a say in how much intrusion the government has in their lives. If California or any other blue state wants healthcare for all and a $300 minimum wage with free pony's for every child then more power to the them I wish them luck, just please don't include the rest of us with your policies when we do not wish for it. I simply don't understand why so many people wish to impose what they think is best for others on to people that simply want to not be bothered.
    If you are talking about health insurance Vermont did try to go it alone and provide universal health insurance to all Vermonters. They couldn't do it. They just did not have enough people to support it. States with large populations and good economies; California, Texas, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Massachusetts maybe Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey, could swing universal health insurance, but the rest of the states could not. Either they don't have large enough population or they are simply too poor to support it.

    We joined together as a nation in 1775 because the founders understood we are stronger united than we are as separate states. It's not good for one state to offer its citizens benefits that another state cannot afford.Having a Constitution means we work together not separately.

    States cannot go it alone to decide social issues involving equality of opportunity and treatment. We are not going to go back to the 1950's with its segregation, sodomy laws, male domination in the professions and politics, prayer in schools, prohibition of contraceptives and legal separate and unequal education.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I see that as a long time struggle in this Nation between Corporations and people. Corporatism/fascism has the upper hand and has held it since before WWII. Perhaps before WWI. We have wars to feed the MIC Corporations, the Banking Corporations, the Energy Corporations, Wall Street, etc., and the same fascists in charge try to eliminate the people's programs i.e. Social Security, Medicare, etc. That is what Conservatives/Republicans/Corporatists represent because it is their policy a/k/a Fascism. "The business of the USA is business." Running the Nation for business is the Republican mantra. It always returns to the analogy of "Which dog do you feed?" and we feed the War dog. We give the War Industry all the money the Nation can borrow and eventually you, me and Grandma will be paying that bill because "**** rolls downhill," and that is axiomatic.
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    Yeah, shame on those evil corporations for giving millions a way to support their families, creating new and useful products that make our lives better, and enabling us to acquire some measure of financial security.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    Yeah. I think you meant, "doesn't hold a candle".
    Yeah I did.
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    Also, you should change your name to Bull _ _ _ _ (rhymes with "mitt").
    Gee Lurch, that's the first time in over ten years on internet forums anyone has ever come up with the idiocy. You're a creative genius!
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    If you are talking about health insurance Vermont did try to go it alone and provide universal health insurance to all Vermonters. They couldn't do it. They just did not have enough people to support it. States with large populations and good economies; California, Texas, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Massachusetts maybe Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey, could swing universal health insurance, but the rest of the states could not. Either they don't have large enough population or they are simply too poor to support it.

    We joined together as a nation in 1775 because the founders understood we are stronger united than we are as separate states. It's not good for one state to offer its citizens benefits that another state cannot afford.Having a Constitution means we work together not separately.

    States cannot go it alone to decide social issues involving equality of opportunity and treatment. We are not going to go back to the 1950's with its segregation, sodomy laws, male domination in the professions and politics, prayer in schools, prohibition of contraceptives and legal separate and unequal education.
    I don't know if you want to invoke the Constitution and the founders.
    The powers not*delegated*to the UnitedStates*by the*Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the*States, are reserved to the*States respectively, or to the people
    The system was built so that most governing was done at the state level so as to bring the power down to the people.if you want change, prove it can work at the state level and lead by example so that the rest of the states can follow rather than forcing your values/opinions onto others. Continuing to believe that you can impose your will on others without consequence is incredibly naive, eventually there will be a breaking point of people getting tired of it.

    Also, Vermont could afford it they just didn't want to raise taxes to do so because of the effect it would have on the economy. I would have a hard time believing that is possible for New Brunswick to have it but Vermont can't

    Edit: The bolded is precisely why so many people hate "liberals" and the Democratic party is seen as toxic in so many states, if you don't follow their agenda and conform to their values you are racist and sexist scum.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Yeah, shame on those evil corporations for giving millions a way to support their families, creating new and useful products that make our lives better, and enabling us to acquire some measure of financial security.
    Shame on those Corporations for profitting from the deaths of 20 million people since WWII. "War is good business, and business is good." Conservative mantra.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Shame on those Corporations for profitting from the deaths of 20 million people since WWII. "War is good business, and business is good." Conservative mantra.
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    And saving the lives and improving the lives of millions more.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The left called out racist Nazis.

    "Quick! Blame the Left."
    LOL! More like the left calls out racist Nazis.

    Conservatives: “why are you demonizing us?”

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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Yeah, shame on those evil corporations for giving millions a way to support their families, creating new and useful products that make our lives better, and enabling us to acquire some measure of financial security.
    Think if all that money and Human Resources was going into scientific research, medical research, space exploration, agriculture, education, etc....

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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    Think if all that money and Human Resources was going into scientific research, medical research, space exploration, agriculture, education, etc....
    Some of it probably is. Just not down the government's toilet. Every one of those issues IS being worked by private enterprise.
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    Re: The Left's demonization of Conservatives Becomes Dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Some of it probably is. Just not down the government's toilet. Every one of those issues IS being worked by private enterprise.
    It’s always been a joint venture. Before the commercial benefits are clear and the technology is mature, government spearheads the basic research. Once it’s more clear, only then do the relevant private industries come in and run with it.

    That’s been true of just about every technological/scientific advance: everything from airplanes (the first place to fund Orville and Wilbur Wright was the US Army), to rockets, satellites, lasers, space exploration, nuclear weapons and energy, DNA and molecular biology, cancer research, solid state physics, superconductors, computers, the internet, etc...

    Think about this: right now, one of the frontiers of science is particle physics. That’s where the Higgs boson (aka, “The God Particle”) was found in 2012. This seems to be the basis of how some particles have mass, and others, like light particles, don’t. It’s a huge insight scientifically, and in the future might have some very interesting technological/scientific implications. It was funded by the Dept of Energy in places like FermiLab in Illinois.

    But what are those commercial applications? What industries would be interested in investing private R&D dollars into pursuing it? None. That’s because the science behind it has not really been well understood or worked out yet. Once it is, only then will the potential commercial applications become more clear, and private industries will jump in to develop it.

    But right now, there is no interest. If government stops funding this, it will remain a black box.

    This all or none thinking is really toxic. The world is not that simple.

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