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Beto O'Rourke's war tax could radically change the political calculus for foreign intervention

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This sounds fair to me. Start a war...pay as you go.:rock

June 25, 2019, 5:15 PM CDT

By Noah Berlatsky

<This week, former Texas congressman and Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke proposed a war tax. The proposal represents the most radical antiwar policy of anyone vying for the Democratic nomination in 2020.>

<O'Rourke's proposal is logistically pretty simple. When a new war is authorized, a tax would automatically go into effect to help pay for it. The tax would be levied on all families "without current members of the Armed Forces or veterans of the Armed Forces," and it would be progressive. Households making more than $200,000 would pay $1,000 a year. Those making less than $30,000 would pay $25 a year. The proceeds from the tax would go into a fund to support veteran's health care.>


<There has been plenty of initial skepticism of O'Rourke's plan, especially among young progressives. A common concern is that the tax would become primarily a new funding mechanism for war and war's consequences. Alex Pareene, a staff writer for The New Republic, for example, tweeted that "an actually good war tax would raise the top marginal rate 10 points for each new war." Similarly, Ken Klippenstein, a reporter for The Young Turks, tweeted that we should have a war tax on defense contractors rather than on "working people for wars the vast majority of them never supported.">


<In part, this opposition is O'Rourke's fault. By framing the war tax as part of a veterans health bill, he obscured its radical potential to change the political calculus around foreign intervention. This makes it seem like the war tax is a domestic spending proposal, rather than as a frontal assault on the foreign policy establishment.>

<Nonetheless, it is in fact a potentially transformative foreign policy proposal. Currently, wars are financed through debt and borrowing. Most people therefore don't feel the effects of these conflicts in any direct concrete way. A war tax would change that, as Sarah Kreps, author of "Taxing Wars: The American Way of War Finance and the Decline of Democracy," explained to me. "If people were forced to pay the cost of war, they would make some sort of calculation in their minds about whether the war being fought is worth the fiscal sacrifice they're making," Kreps says. "And as soon as those are no longer in alignment, they would start putting pressure on leaders to find a suitable end to the war.">




https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-could-radically-change-political-ncna1021606
 
Would be better if President and every Congressman would pay 20% of their income each year for each war they started or that is in progress, including both new President and Congressmen over time AND old ones that started it after they left the office.

And yes, if more than 4 wars are ongoing, they may have to borrow to pay their tax obligations for those years.
 
I think O'Rourke's heart is in the right place, but I'm not sold on this war tax.

However, we should radically rethink how much we spend on military hardware. The bloated F-35 program, for example, should be scaled way back.
 
What a stupid idea. It's fitting it comes from RF "Beto". It was bad enough when President Johnson tried to micromanage Vietnam, now o'Roark wants Congress to do it. Should will call back all the missiles the Obama administration launched?

The War Powers Act already covers almost all of this.
 
I think O'Rourke's heart is in the right place, but I'm not sold on this war tax.

However, we should radically rethink how much we spend on military hardware. The bloated F-35 program, for example, should be scaled way back.

Beta O'Rourke is the type of guy who's favorite type od sex is hiding in the closet and masturbating while peaking out at his wife having rough sex with two or three other men.
 
Beta O'Rourke is the type of guy who's favorite type od sex is hiding in the closet and masturbating while peaking out at his wife having rough sex with two or three other men.

Translation: "I have no logical arguments against O'Rourke's proposal, so I am going to make **** up and fire a sophomoric argumentum ad hominem."
 
This sounds fair to me. Start a war...pay as you go.:rock

June 25, 2019, 5:15 PM CDT

By Noah Berlatsky

<This week, former Texas congressman and Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke proposed a war tax. The proposal represents the most radical antiwar policy of anyone vying for the Democratic nomination in 2020.>

<O'Rourke's proposal is logistically pretty simple. When a new war is authorized, a tax would automatically go into effect to help pay for it. The tax would be levied on all families "without current members of the Armed Forces or veterans of the Armed Forces," and it would be progressive. Households making more than $200,000 would pay $1,000 a year. Those making less than $30,000 would pay $25 a year. The proceeds from the tax would go into a fund to support veteran's health care.>


<There has been plenty of initial skepticism of O'Rourke's plan, especially among young progressives. A common concern is that the tax would become primarily a new funding mechanism for war and war's consequences. Alex Pareene, a staff writer for The New Republic, for example, tweeted that "an actually good war tax would raise the top marginal rate 10 points for each new war." Similarly, Ken Klippenstein, a reporter for The Young Turks, tweeted that we should have a war tax on defense contractors rather than on "working people for wars the vast majority of them never supported.">


<In part, this opposition is O'Rourke's fault. By framing the war tax as part of a veterans health bill, he obscured its radical potential to change the political calculus around foreign intervention. This makes it seem like the war tax is a domestic spending proposal, rather than as a frontal assault on the foreign policy establishment.>

<Nonetheless, it is in fact a potentially transformative foreign policy proposal. Currently, wars are financed through debt and borrowing. Most people therefore don't feel the effects of these conflicts in any direct concrete way. A war tax would change that, as Sarah Kreps, author of "Taxing Wars: The American Way of War Finance and the Decline of Democracy," explained to me. "If people were forced to pay the cost of war, they would make some sort of calculation in their minds about whether the war being fought is worth the fiscal sacrifice they're making," Kreps says. "And as soon as those are no longer in alignment, they would start putting pressure on leaders to find a suitable end to the war.">




https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-could-radically-change-political-ncna1021606

If the actual dollar amount of the tax stops growing at $200,000, then the tax is actually hyper-regressive. If the marginal rate simply caps at that amount, then it's progressive, but not meaningfully so.
 
Beta O'Rourke is the type of guy who's favorite type od sex is hiding in the closet and masturbating while peaking out at his wife having rough sex with two or three other men.

Wow, that was random... Projecting much?
 
If the actual dollar amount of the tax stops growing at $200,000, then the tax is actually hyper-regressive. If the marginal rate simply caps at that amount, then it's progressive, but not meaningfully so.

When"the proceeds going to care for veterans"how is that hyper-regressive?
 
Donc, I prefer a “combat tax” be triggered if within the prior 30 days, 100 or more U.S. Military personal exercised deadly force against anyone. The tax ceases if no more than 99 U.S. Military personal exercised deadly force against anyone within the past 30 days.

The flat combat tax should be an increase of the proposed federal sales tax.
Reduce wage earning families’ and employers’ total taxes by replacing a portion of FICA with federal sales tax revenue. … I advocate reducing both the employers and the employees FICA taxes be reduced by 4.55% of payroll and the revenue be replaced with a 4.55% federal sales tax. ...

Respectfully, Supposn
 
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Translation: "I have no logical arguments against O'Rourke's proposal, so I am going to make **** up and fire a sophomoric argumentum ad hominem."

Naw, just a lifetime of experience enabling me to accurately read others.
 
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