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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Jeff Bezos only has $80 billion. He wants the Democrats to protect his foreign child labor sweatshop products by opposing all tariffs and he wants the government to pay his employees extra money, full insurance and give them food stamps so he doesn't have to pay them more - plus millions more immigrants so there are people willing to work for him no matter how low the wages. The Democratic Party promises to deliver all this to him. How can he live on only $80 billion? Whatever the super rich corporations want, that is what the Democratic Party promises.
    So do the Republicans. Your blindness is astonishing.

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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    What opinion piece? Maybe you didn't read past the headline? The OP? I was wondering what form of extremism you advocate?

    My simple request is this: read the article before you pop off with prepackaged, uninformed responses.
    First of all i read everything you posted and i then went on to read the rest of the article per your request, and my opinion remains the same.

    They offer no way to differentiate between moderate right, right, far right, extremist and nonextremist.

    They masquerade their opinions as research papers. They dont back any of it up with any kind meaningful metric.

    If you dont believe me, go ahead and define each group for us. While you at it define each of those catagories for the left too.

    Where would you classify someone like smollett? Is he a far left extremist? Maybe he is a moderate left left extremist. Can someone be both moderate and a extremist? Can some be far left or right but not extremists.

    They are not doing any meaningful resesrch with such ambivalence present. They are offering their bias opinions.



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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    I get the feeling that what they are calling far right and extremist is heavily biased by thier own ideological beliefs which makes thier conclusions useless.

    It amounts to being nothing more than opinion piece being masqueraded as a scientific study.

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    It's obvious what the objective and motivation is.

    Even the hard core alt-left outfits like Pew put these White Supremacists/Nazi's at something like 10-20,000 nationally. That's only .000055% of the population, but they want to pretend it's a much bigger problem.
    After years of false accusations and McCarthyite smears, the collusion hoax now defines the Democratic Party. The hoax is what they have in place of a governing philosophy or a constructive vision for our country. Rep. Devin Nunes - June, 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It's obvious what the objective and motivation is.

    Even the hard core alt-left outfits like Pew put these White Supremacists/Nazi's at something like 10-20,000 nationally. That's only .000055% of the population, but they want to pretend it's a much bigger problem.
    I dont mind havimg an open and honest discussion about the danger some radicals present.

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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    I dont mind havimg an open and honest discussion about the danger some radicals present.

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    I agree. It's worth some discussion. But that's not what the objective is when the topic is brought up for the 10,000th time by people on the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I agree. It's worth some discussion. But that's not what the objective is when the topic is brought up for the 10,000th time by people on the left.
    Isnt it intetesting how a rational response has gone ignored by the op

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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Isnt it intetesting how a rational response has gone ignored by the op

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    Yes, but certainly never surprising.
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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Isnt it intetesting how a rational response has gone ignored by the op
    Oh? I was waiting for a rational response. Which were you raising as fitting that category? I wasn't aware that there had even been a "response". Perhaps you could clarify what was "responsive" and what was "rational". The question was, as I perceived it, "what are the proper labels for right wing extremists"? Have you offered any? Or, instead, have you provided merely deflection and demurral?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    Oh? I was waiting for a rational response. Which were you raising as fitting that category? I wasn't aware that there had even been a "response". Perhaps you could clarify what was "responsive" and what was "rational". The question was, as I perceived it, "what are the proper labels for right wing extremists"? Have you offered any? Or, instead, have you provided merely deflection and demurral?
    You nor the articles author can even define what criteria is required to classify something as right wing extremism which is the problem. Just because someone does not agree with a progressive idea does not make them far right or extremist.

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    Re: Politics Shape The Debate Over What To Call Far-Right Extremism

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    You nor the articles author can even define what criteria is required to classify something as right wing extremism which is the problem. Just because someone does not agree with a progressive idea does not make them far right or extremist.
    I admire your tenacity in fervently missing the point. As a law professor once said to my wife, "Clearly, Miss ****, you have read the material, but do you understand it?"

    Let me ask this: do you deny the existence of far right extremists? Of white supremacists? Of white nationalists? Of neo-nazis? If not, how would you define the threat?

    Trust me on this: you can't baffle me with bull, I've been in the world too long and am used to confronting it.
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