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    The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    As our population ages, the effects of technology and the pace of change in technology continues to grow. The result? We are becoming a nation of suckers, getting conned online by various predators.

    It's generally accepted that the rate of technological change grows exponentially. Which means that people born around 1950 grew up in a much more stable world than the people born eighteen years ago. While adoption of smart phones and other devices has gone up among seniors, the percentage of "digitally ready" seniors is very low. This isn't just an inability to find the right button to push, this is a fundamental lack of understand of how the internet works and who it's working for. For example, about one third of seniors think that Facebook news articles are being vetted by journalists and facebook staff, rather than realizing that it's being driven by an algorithm (link).

    Meanwhile our population is getting older. By 2030, 1 in every 5 Americans will be over 65 and they will outnumber children for the first time in US history.

    So what do we have? An increasing amount of people unprepared for the rapid change taking place on the internet participating in it with limited awareness and a lot of time on their hands. Due to the fact that older people tend to be more conservative, the political ramifications has shown up most significantly and earlier in conservative politics.

    Various political PAC's are scamming them out of their money:

    Why is the conservative movement not as effective as its supporters want it to be? Because day after day, year after year, little old ladies get called on the phone or emailed or sent letters in the mail telling them that the future of the country is at stake and that if they don't make a donation to groups that might as well be named Make Telemarketers Wealthy Again right now, the country will go to hell in a handbasket. Those little old ladies get out their checkbooks and give what they can spare, convinced that they're making a difference and helping make the world a better place. What they're doing is ensuring that the guys running these PACs can enjoy a more luxurious lifestyle.
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    The PACs propagate a narrative in which they're the heroic crusaders for conservative values, secure borders and freedom, up against corrupt establishment elites . . . when they're in fact run by those coastal political operatives and keeping most of the money for their own operations.

    The Right's Grifter Problem - National Review
    Granted, "little old ladies" is a patronizing description, but I wanted to post a link from well known conservative outlet just to make it clear that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. This is a generational issue and the split along partisan lines is just a function of demographics. (And if you were a conservative giving to these PAC's, you should mad as hell about the way your money was spent)

    Seniors were disproportionately affected by fake news, and I see no reason why this trend will reverse or get better. Don't believe a scientific publication? How about an admitted fake news publisher?
    Jestin Coler, who ran a network of websites that published completely false material about a, politics, and other topics, told BuzzFeed News that baby boomers were a key demographic for his sites because they are absolutely more likely to share and consume fake news online, particularly on Facebook.

    "We did target older age groups when running ads, and I'm sure you will find the same with hyperpartisan publishers," he said.

    Old, Online, And Fed On Lies: How An Aging Population Will Reshape The Internet
    TLDR: our population is getting increasingly participating in world that they don't understand and becoming increasingly vulnerable to exploitation. Overall, this is affecting our politics for the worse, either by misappropriating hard earned money or influencing decisions with highly targeted, manipulative information.

    I don't have a solution for this, but at the very least, we need to recognize we have a problem.

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    Old people will be our ruin. The whole place is gonna smell funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exoplanet View Post
    As our population ages, the effects of technology and the pace of change in technology continues to grow. The result? We are becoming a nation of suckers, getting conned online by various predators.

    It's generally accepted that the rate of technological change grows exponentially. Which means that people born around 1950 grew up in a much more stable world than the people born eighteen years ago. While adoption of smart phones and other devices has gone up among seniors, the percentage of "digitally ready" seniors is very low. This isn't just an inability to find the right button to push, this is a fundamental lack of understand of how the internet works and who it's working for. For example, about one third of seniors think that Facebook news articles are being vetted by journalists and facebook staff, rather than realizing that it's being driven by an algorithm (link).

    Meanwhile our population is getting older. By 2030, 1 in every 5 Americans will be over 65 and they will outnumber children for the first time in US history.

    So what do we have? An increasing amount of people unprepared for the rapid change taking place on the internet participating in it with limited awareness and a lot of time on their hands. Due to the fact that older people tend to be more conservative, the political ramifications has shown up most significantly and earlier in conservative politics.

    Various political PAC's are scamming them out of their money:

    Granted, "little old ladies" is a patronizing description, but I wanted to post a link from well known conservative outlet just to make it clear that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. This is a generational issue and the split along partisan lines is just a function of demographics. (And if you were a conservative giving to these PAC's, you should mad as hell about the way your money was spent)

    Seniors were disproportionately affected by fake news, and I see no reason why this trend will reverse or get better. Don't believe a scientific publication? How about an admitted fake news publisher?


    TLDR: our population is getting increasingly participating in world that they don't understand and becoming increasingly vulnerable to exploitation. Overall, this is affecting our politics for the worse, either by misappropriating hard earned money or influencing decisions with highly targeted, manipulative information.

    I don't have a solution for this, but at the very least, we need to recognize we have a problem.
    You dont need a solution its a self correcting problem. The people your talking about are dying off and the new seniors entering that age group are technologically more savy.

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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    Quote Originally Posted by exoplanet View Post
    As our population ages, the effects of technology and the pace of change in technology continues to grow. The result? We are becoming a nation of suckers, getting conned online by various predators.

    It's generally accepted that the rate of technological change grows exponentially. Which means that people born around 1950 grew up in a much more stable world than the people born eighteen years ago. While adoption of smart phones and other devices has gone up among seniors, the percentage of "digitally ready" seniors is very low. This isn't just an inability to find the right button to push, this is a fundamental lack of understand of how the internet works and who it's working for. For example, about one third of seniors think that Facebook news articles are being vetted by journalists and facebook staff, rather than realizing that it's being driven by an algorithm (link).

    Meanwhile our population is getting older. By 2030, 1 in every 5 Americans will be over 65 and they will outnumber children for the first time in US history.

    So what do we have? An increasing amount of people unprepared for the rapid change taking place on the internet participating in it with limited awareness and a lot of time on their hands. Due to the fact that older people tend to be more conservative, the political ramifications has shown up most significantly and earlier in conservative politics.

    Various political PAC's are scamming them out of their money:

    Granted, "little old ladies" is a patronizing description, but I wanted to post a link from well known conservative outlet just to make it clear that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. This is a generational issue and the split along partisan lines is just a function of demographics. (And if you were a conservative giving to these PAC's, you should mad as hell about the way your money was spent)

    Seniors were disproportionately affected by fake news, and I see no reason why this trend will reverse or get better. Don't believe a scientific publication? How about an admitted fake news publisher?


    TLDR: our population is getting increasingly participating in world that they don't understand and becoming increasingly vulnerable to exploitation. Overall, this is affecting our politics for the worse, either by misappropriating hard earned money or influencing decisions with highly targeted, manipulative information.

    I don't have a solution for this, but at the very least, we need to recognize we have a problem.
    you may be showing your age as your post only references the advances in technology of the internet

    the expansion of technology will be across many other aspects of our lives as well

    one does not have to understand the technology behind a device in order to use it

    most who grew up with a telephone (wired), radio, and/or tv had no idea about the technology which enabled them to talk, watch and listen in ways never before contemplated

    and finally, this is the information age. that's a good thing. it means more people have more access to more information than in any other era. exponentially so

    of all the problems you think you have, this is not one of them
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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    This ageism is annoying. Older Americans such as yours truly understand not only the end product of the technology, but what went into it. How many young people understand binary math or hexadecimal, assembly language, what Twain_32.dll does or what a hardware handshake is? What is an 8 vs 16 vs 32 vs 64 bit processor? How do you write memory efficient code (a skill back in vogue with Data Science). The understanding of variance, co-variance linear regression is much deeper when you had to calculate them using pencil and paper. Younger people don't understand the fundamentals of what they are using.

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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    This ageism is annoying. Older Americans such as yours truly understand not only the end product of the technology, but what went into it. How many young people understand binary math or hexadecimal, assembly language, what Twain_32.dll does or what a hardware handshake is? What is an 8 vs 16 vs 32 vs 64 bit processor? How do you write memory efficient code (a skill back in vogue with Data Science). The understanding of variance, co-variance linear regression is much deeper when you had to calculate them using pencil and paper. Younger people don't understand the fundamentals of what they are using.
    hand them a slide rule with their test while removing their phone/calculator
    let them learn some 'new' technology
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    hand them a slide rule with their test while removing their phone/calculator
    let them learn some 'new' technology


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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    It is not the older generations that anyone needs to worry about; its the internet/meme generation's and beyond. I see friends kids share easily debunked crap all the time.

    Besides the old and the young, almost everyone seems to never look and see in a meme is factual or not. And many of those who do fact check do so by going to some hyper-biased site that says exactly what they wanted it to say. And it isnt even an American problem its a world problem. We live on a planet full of idiots.

    Just remember it was not that long a go that mos tof the world could not reset a damn VCR clock.

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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    Quote Originally Posted by exoplanet View Post
    As our population ages, the effects of technology and the pace of change in technology continues to grow. The result? We are becoming a nation of suckers, getting conned online by various predators.

    It's generally accepted that the rate of technological change grows exponentially. Which means that people born around 1950 grew up in a much more stable world than the people born eighteen years ago. While adoption of smart phones and other devices has gone up among seniors, the percentage of "digitally ready" seniors is very low. This isn't just an inability to find the right button to push, this is a fundamental lack of understand of how the internet works and who it's working for. For example, about one third of seniors think that Facebook news articles are being vetted by journalists and facebook staff, rather than realizing that it's being driven by an algorithm (link).

    Meanwhile our population is getting older. By 2030, 1 in every 5 Americans will be over 65 and they will outnumber children for the first time in US history.

    So what do we have? An increasing amount of people unprepared for the rapid change taking place on the internet participating in it with limited awareness and a lot of time on their hands. Due to the fact that older people tend to be more conservative, the political ramifications has shown up most significantly and earlier in conservative politics.

    Various political PAC's are scamming them out of their money:

    Granted, "little old ladies" is a patronizing description, but I wanted to post a link from well known conservative outlet just to make it clear that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. This is a generational issue and the split along partisan lines is just a function of demographics. (And if you were a conservative giving to these PAC's, you should mad as hell about the way your money was spent)

    Seniors were disproportionately affected by fake news, and I see no reason why this trend will reverse or get better. Don't believe a scientific publication? How about an admitted fake news publisher?


    TLDR: our population is getting increasingly participating in world that they don't understand and becoming increasingly vulnerable to exploitation. Overall, this is affecting our politics for the worse, either by misappropriating hard earned money or influencing decisions with highly targeted, manipulative information.

    I don't have a solution for this, but at the very least, we need to recognize we have a problem.
    You may not have a solution, but at least you are able to describe the problem, and that is good.

    Actually, Americans have been suckers for many generations, and there are explanations for it.

    P.T. Barnum commented on it in the last century. There is a sucker born every minute, or words to that effect.

    "The public appears to be disposed to be amused even while they are conscious of being deceived." or "The bigger the humbug, the better the people will like it."

    We have been conditioned to be credulous and easily tricked.

    Yes, the digital age and internet seems to contribute greatly to that effect.

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    Re: The US population is getting older, and increasingly more manipulated

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    This ageism is annoying. Older Americans such as yours truly understand not only the end product of the technology, but what went into it. How many young people understand binary math or hexadecimal, assembly language, what Twain_32.dll does or what a hardware handshake is? What is an 8 vs 16 vs 32 vs 64 bit processor? How do you write memory efficient code (a skill back in vogue with Data Science). The understanding of variance, co-variance linear regression is much deeper when you had to calculate them using pencil and paper. Younger people don't understand the fundamentals of what they are using.
    Apparently babbleism is ageless....

    I'll wager the VAST majority of those born around 1950 have ZERO (0) clue what all the word dribble means...

    A far better measure of the tech savvy senior would be any Consumer Cellular outlet... Christ on a crutch the confusion (and anger) at the 'smart phone' is sadly repeated while a mommy pushes her buggy past with a toddler using her cell phone...

    With your ahhhh skill I guess, perhaps you should start a second career as a representative for reverse mortgages to seniors...

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