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More good news from Trump's economy

Risky Thicket said:
This is great news! Farmers who have lost their farms and their homes, farm equipment manufactering, sales and service employees who have lost their jobs and the 23,000 people who lost their jobs at AT&T can now find work at local dry clearners. Such a deal!
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Trump says U.S. farmers to get $15 billion in aid amid China trade war - Reuters

AT&T cutting jobs isn't Trump's fault. It's AT&T's fault.

"What AT&T is doing to hardworking people across America is disgraceful," CWA President Chris Shelton said in the union announcement. "Congress needs to investigate AT&T to find out how it is using its tax windfall since the company's own publicly available data already raise serious alarm bells. AT&T got its tax cut. Where are the jobs?"
 
Irredentist said:
You can only stimulate economic growth via deficit spending and deregulation for so long. Eventually, the bill comes due, and once more it will be the working classes who pay the price, while corporations and the rich will be comfortably insulated. How long will the workers of America tolerate this fundamental inequality? Not much longer.
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This isn't some "shovel ready" Keynesian maneuver, it's basic leave money in the hands of economic decision makers and get out of their way.
 
trixare4kids said:
It's always been about the economy with most people, and that includes me.--- "It's about the economy, stupid". He delivered. I am for my country growing, and it has leaps and bounds!

I didn't vote for him but his economic policies have improved the business climate, and put people back to work and that makes me a big supporter of this president. Plus, his strength to put up with and get through the fake Russian/collusion thing is remarkable. He's a tough leader.

Welcome to the forum, Harv.
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Well said, and thanks![emoji16]

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Cardinal said:
THIS IS IT!!! Trump's approval will surely rise about 43% now!

Checks 538...

Oh, poo. It's still at 42.3%.

How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight
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President Donald Trump’s approval ratings blew past former President Barack Obama’s first term numbers from April 2011, according to a Gallup poll published Monday.

Trump’s ratings reached 46 percent for the first time during his presidency, the poll noted. Gallup argued the higher numbers are likely a result of a strong economy and the Department of Justice’s decision to publish special counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian election meddling.
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You're welcome. :)

POLL: Trump’s Approval Numbers Top Obama’s During Same Point In His First Term | The Daily Caller
 
lwf said:
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To his credit, he could be on target to match Obama's wage growth.
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Obama had the advantage of starting right at the beginning of the recovery from a recession, Trump is just showing how bad Obama policies slowed that recovery.

Oh and 5.3% is the current number which is higher than Obama had at 24 months.

Please tell about the Obama policies that improved the economy? The answers is: there were none, the economic improvement happened despite not because of Obama.
 
lwf said:
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To his credit, he could be on target to match Obama's wage growth.
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Obama's "wage growth," unlike Trump's, was not marketplace oriented, it was mostly artificially created by regional minimum wage increases.

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Cardinal said:
Obama is 8 points above where trump is now. See 538 average I linked too.
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What Link?

RCP is considered more accurate, and then usually only after you add 10% to the GOP side.

That Trump is getting 90+% negative MSM coverage while Obama got 90+% positive MSM coverage. This tends to show which President actually is actually doing a good job and earning the approval and which had propaganda propping him up.
 
Harv said:
Obama's "wage growth," unlike Trump's, was not marketplace oriented, it was mostly artificially created by regional minimum wage increases.

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see #33
 
Casca XV said:
What Link?

RCP is considered more accurate, and then usually only after you add 10% to the GOP side.

That Trump is getting 90+% negative MSM coverage while Obama got 90+% positive MSM coverage. This tends to show which President actually is actually doing a good job and earning the approval and which had propaganda propping him up.
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How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight
 
Casca XV said:
Watching your ideology get discredited and dest-
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Casca XV said:
What Link?

RCP is considered more accurate, and then usually only after you add 10% to the GOP side.

That Trump is getting 90+% negative MSM coverage while Obama got 90+% positive MSM coverage. This tends to show which President actually is actually doing a good job and earning the approval and which had propaganda propping him up.
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Glad I read ahead before I went ahead and responded to
Cardinal said:
Obama is 8 points above where trump is now. See 538 average I linked too.
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The embedded link from my source above is Gallup. Hell, who doesn't like Gallup?

Trump Approval Remains High for Him, at 46%
Trump Approval at Higher Levels Among Both Democrats and Republicans
Trump's 91% approval rating among Republicans in the latest poll is on the high end for this group, nearly matching the record high of 92% from November of last year. Democrats' ratings of Trump remain low but relatively high for this group -- the latest 12% he receives from Democrats matches their previous high from April 2017. Approval of the president is essentially unchanged among independents -- the current 37% is similar to their previous rating of 39%.

They have him at 46% approval rating. Outstanding, considering all the for crying out loud faux outrage spilling from the leftist media.
 
trixare4kids said:
The embedded link from my source above is Gallup. Hell, who doesn't like Gallup?
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The 538 average for likely or registered voters is good, and I'm going with that. I'm not able or interested in stopping you from cherry picking the polls that make you feel good.
 
Cardinal said:
The 538 average for likely or registered voters is good, and I'm going with that. I'm not able or interested in stopping you from cherry picking the polls that make you feel good.
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You previously referred to a high percentage point for MSM coverage.

If the mainstream media gives positive coverage to a politician, it is a strong indicator that said politician's leanings are more toward Karl Marx than, say, Thomas Jefferson.

A strong indicator of a patriotic American, on the other hand, is negative press from the MSM.

Rule of thumb: the more dangerous to the principles that made America the great nation we are, the more adoration from the mainstream media.

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Casca XV said:
Obama had the advantage of starting right at the beginning of the recovery from a recession, Trump is just showing how bad Obama policies slowed that recovery.
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OR: Trump is coasting on Obama's wage growth. The economy doesn't instantly change when a new president is elected, therefore Trump cannot take credit for the growth already occurring when he took office. If the economy is continuing to thrive at the end of 2020, then I'll give Trump credit for not ruining the gains we enjoyed under Barack Obama.

Casca XV said:
Oh and 5.3% is the current number which is higher than Obama had at 24 months.
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Obama had the disadvantage of starting right at the beginning of the recovery from a recession, the current number is just showing how effective Obama's policies were at jump-starting the economic recovery from the massive recession that resulted from Bush's conservative economic policies.

Casca XV said:
Please tell about the Obama policies that improved the economy? The answers is: there were none, the economic improvement happened despite not because of Obama.
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The ACA increased the economic stability of American families, enabling them to spend the money they saved in the market.
The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act similarly injected massive amounts of money and demand into the economy by investing in consumers, more so than in business. Because you improve a supply and demand economy by investing in demand, not supply.

Now you tell about the Trump policies that have improved the economy. There are none, because the economic improvement we are enjoying is the result of 8 years of a Democratic president investing in people rather than in business, and Trump hasn't had enough time to **** it up yet by letting demand dry up while shoveling millions into the furnace that is supply-side economics.
 
lwf said:
OR: Trump is coasting on Obama's wage growth. The economy doesn't instantly change when a new president is elected, therefore Trump cannot take credit for the growth already occurring when he took office. If the economy is continuing to thrive at the end of 2020, then I'll give Trump credit for not ruining the gains we enjoyed under Barack Obama.



Obama had the disadvantage of starting right at the beginning of the recovery from a recession, the current number is just showing how effective Obama's policies were at jump-starting the economic recovery from the massive recession that resulted from Bush's conservative economic policies.



The ACA increased the economic stability of American families, enabling them to spend the money they saved in the market.
The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act similarly injected massive amounts of money and demand into the economy by investing in consumers, more so than in business. Because you improve a supply and demand economy by investing in demand, not supply.

Now you tell about the Trump policies that have improved the economy. There are none, because the economic improvement we are enjoying is the result of 8 years of a Democratic president investing in people rather than in business, and Trump hasn't had enough time to **** it up yet by letting demand dry up while shoveling millions into the furnace that is supply-side economics.
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That has to be the most dishonest and convoluted "explanation" of anything I've ever seen. [emoji23] I mean... I mean that gives all new meaning to the term "reaching." You have singlehandedly reinvented Economics.

If there were a Nobel Prize for bull****, you would win it hands down for that post.

Amazing, truly amazing...

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