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Keys to unseating Trump

Trippy Trekker

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Barring a widespread economic crisis, insurmountable scandal or rise of a charismatic opposition candidate, an incumbent retains a prohibitive advantage.

In 2000 and 2016, the choices did not include an incumbent. Both of those elections, the GOP lost the popular election and won with controversy. Tax cuts and a strong economy gave the GOP impetus to claim success.

The economic policy of the George W. Bush administration was characterized by significant income tax cuts in 2001 and 2003, the implementation of Medicare Part D in 2003, increased military spending for two wars, a housing bubble that contributed to the subprime mortgage crisis of 2007–2008, and the Great Recession that followed. Economic performance during the period was adversely affected by two recessions, in 2001 and 2007–2009.
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The DNC has dubbed the phrase Salient Voters to describe potentially disenfranchised Trump Supporters vulnerable to entering the Anti-Trump camp. Efforts focus on identifying and targeting these voters on a local basis.



DNC launches hyper-local 2020 effort to shadow Trump on the trail

What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
 
Trippy Trekker said:
What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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The farmer in the top video has a far more detailed and intuitive understanding, than the farmer in the bottom video. I'd like to know how the bottom farmer now feels, at almost a year out with no relief in sight. I suspect I know how the top guy feels, and I suspect he's going to vote his pocketbook if nothing changes by next year.

These are exactly the guys we need to be talking to; Midwest farmers. They're a very pragmatic bunch, if you can lay-out the truth without any bull****.





 
Trippy Trekker said:
Barring a widespread economic crisis, insurmountable scandal or rise of a charismatic opposition candidate, an incumbent retains a prohibitive advantage.

In 2000 and 2016, the choices did not include an incumbent. Both of those elections, the GOP lost the popular election and won with controversy. Tax cuts and a strong economy gave the GOP impetus to claim success.



The DNC has dubbed the phrase Salient Voters to describe potentially disenfranchised Trump Supporters vulnerable to entering the Anti-Trump camp. Efforts focus on identifying and targeting these voters on a local basis.



DNC launches hyper-local 2020 effort to shadow Trump on the trail

What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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Independents choose the president, not any "bases". I am an independent who always votes for a mix of parties every election. I voted for Obama in 2012. In order to get my vote for president the Democratic nominee must have these two things:

1. not run an anti-Trump campaign

2. not be a Democratic socialist
 
Keep Russia out of it and any New York sewer rat will beat him...
 
Chomsky said:
The farmer in the top video has a far more detailed and intuitive understanding, than the farmer in the bottom video. I'd like to know how the bottom farmer now feels, at almost a year out with no relief in sight. I suspect I know how the top guy feels, and I suspect he's going to vote his pocketbook if nothing changes by next year.

These are exactly the guys we need to be talking to; Midwest farmers. They're a very pragmatic bunch, if you can lay-out the truth without any bull****.





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I'm not sure even the pocket book hit they continue to take will change their vote. They both still seem to want to vote republican. It's obvious that both of them understand what making twenty percent less means to them and yet....
 
bongsaway said:
I'm not sure even the pocket book hit they continue to take will change their vote. They both still seem to want to vote republican. It's obvious that both of them understand what making twenty percent less means to them and yet....
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Those videos were done barely two months after Trump put the tariffs in place. It's easy to talk brave, initially. Let's see what happens with some time, and they're faced with more severe prospects, like making their mortgage & loan payments or selling-off some land.

Yeah, Midwest farmers are usually conservatives - though I'd call them 'moderate' rather than like some southern hardcore conservatives. But if anything, they are pragmatic. The dollars & cents will get to them. And if the Dem candidate is a moderate guy like Biden, and Trump hasn't fixed the problem, I think enough may switch to flip those razor-thin-win margins from 2016.
 
Chomsky said:
Those videos were done barely two months after Trump put the tariffs in place. It's easy to talk brave, initially. Let's see what happens with some time, and they're faced with more severe prospects, like making their mortgage & loan payments or selling-off some land.

Yeah, Midwest farmers are usually conservatives - though I'd call them 'moderate' rather than like some southern hardcore conservatives. But if anything, they are pragmatic. The dollars & cents will get to them. And if the Dem candidate is a moderate guy like Biden, and Trump hasn't fixed the problem, I think enough may switch to flip those razor-thin-win margins from 2016.
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Chom, I would honestly like to believe that, really I would. I left the democratic party when clinton signed nafta. Trump on the other hand could shoot someone on fifth ave and it wouldn't matter. I tend to believe that sooner than I think the pragmatism of the farmers will change their minds. If they have the money, I think most will bite the bullet and like the second farmer said, believe it will get better in the long run and vote trump again. I also think trump will not win again. Those who gave him a chance the first time because he was a business man, they're gone. His harsh rhetoric and actions are really wearing on people who do not support trump and he's only going to get crazier as election time draws nearer.
 
bongsaway said:
Chom, I would honestly like to believe that, really I would. I left the democratic party when clinton signed nafta. Trump on the other hand could shoot someone on fifth ave and it wouldn't matter. I tend to believe that sooner than I think the pragmatism of the farmers will change their minds. If they have the money, I think most will bite the bullet and like the second farmer said, believe it will get better in the long run and vote trump again. I also think trump will not win again. Those who gave him a chance the first time because he was a business man, they're gone. His harsh rhetoric and actions are really wearing on people who do not support trump and he's only going to get crazier as election time draws nearer.
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Fair enough. I do agree the Midwest "Trump Dems", those that crossed over for him, particularly in the suburbs & exurbs, will likely be the first and largest group to cross back. I'd hope we could get at least a few farmers. But regardless, places like MI & WI were won by a razor-thin margin, and it won't take much to overcome it. After looking at the 2018 results in the Midwest, I think those states are there already, as long as the Dems don't screw it up.
 
Chomsky said:
Fair enough. I do agree the Midwest "Trump Dems", those that crossed over for him, particularly in the suburbs & exurbs, will likely be the first and largest group to cross back. I'd hope we could get at least a few farmers. But regardless, places like MI & WI were won by a razor-thin margin, and it won't take much to overcome it. After looking at the 2018 results in the Midwest, I think those states are there already, as long as the Dems don't screw it up.
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Even though I thought hillary was the most prepared candidate for the office, she had no charisma and she won't be running again. That's two plusses for the dems right off the bat. I am actually happy to see so many dems running. With all of their ideas by the time the serious run to become 'the' candidate begins, there should be several policy topics that most dems can agree upon. The right on the other hand is banking on trump and like so many other banks trump has dealt with, I think it's a bad bet for him to win again. He doesn't have the temperment. Angry will not win this time around.
 
bongsaway said:
Even though I thought hillary was the most prepared candidate for the office, she had no charisma and she won't be running again. That's two plusses for the dems right off the bat. I am actually happy to see so many dems running. With all of their ideas by the time the serious run to become 'the' candidate begins, there should be several policy topics that most dems can agree upon. The right on the other hand is banking on trump and like so many other banks trump has dealt with, I think it's a bad bet for him to win again. He doesn't have the temperment. Angry will not win this time around.
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Oh, I think anger with Trump could definitely win! :2razz:
 
Moderate Right said:
Independents choose the president, not any "bases". I am an independent who always votes for a mix of parties every election. I voted for Obama in 2012. In order to get my vote for president the Democratic nominee must have these two things:

1. not run an anti-Trump campaign

2. not be a Democratic socialist
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Obama lost independents in 2012 by a slightly larger % than Hillary lost to Trump in 2016, and STILL won his election by a stronger margin than Trump did in 2016, in both the EC and popular vote.

So, Obama proved the Democrats CAN win general elections on the strength of their base, Republicans on the other hand...haven't.
 
Question...

What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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Change the locks,then throw away those keys.
Our President isn't going anywhere so forget-about-it.
 
Keys to unseating Trump
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THE key to unseating tRump in 2020 is Making America Whole Again!

Forget social promises, forget Russia, Forget *****.

Focus on defusing the HATE NEWS (Faux, Lush, Bright …), they are WRONG and it's not hard to prove them wrong. Come with a solid, substantive plan on how ALL Americans can sit at the table of The American Dream … THAT IS the message that needs to be delivered and made clear.

A Candidate that can bring this Country back together after all the divisiveness of the last decade and a half would win so resoundingly it would be a contest in name only. tRump is a Con-Man and a liar that has no clue and no interest in getting a clue on how to run this country, how to make us prosper, how to Make US AmeriCANs Again.
 
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Trippy Trekker said:
Barring a widespread economic crisis, insurmountable scandal or rise of a charismatic opposition candidate, an incumbent retains a prohibitive advantage.

In 2000 and 2016, the choices did not include an incumbent. Both of those elections, the GOP lost the popular election and won with controversy. Tax cuts and a strong economy gave the GOP impetus to claim success.



The DNC has dubbed the phrase Salient Voters to describe potentially disenfranchised Trump Supporters vulnerable to entering the Anti-Trump camp. Efforts focus on identifying and targeting these voters on a local basis.



DNC launches hyper-local 2020 effort to shadow Trump on the trail

What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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The motorcycles are **** anyway.
 
bongsaway said:
He doesn't have the numbers. Funny and I think anger with trump could also lose him the election.
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Oops. By "anger with Trump", I meant "anger at Trump", meaning the Dems are motivated to get him out of office.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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Hammer home his obsession with stripping people of their health care.

The GOP got destroyed on health care in 2018 and they're not getting any better on the issue.
 
As much as I am wary of Eric Swalwell, I heard him talk about some of his platform yesterday. He already sounded more sensible to me, an ex-Republican who is still fiscally conservative, than just about any of the Democrats. Two things that stood out:

1) on health care, he did not hesitate to push back on the idea of getting rid of employer provided health care, but instead wants to focus on a public option. When Bernie and others talk about eliminating all private health care, they are going to find out there is going to be much more resistance to that idea outside of the far left.
2) he also spoke of putting more than one Republican in his cabinet.

I haven't heard much more of his platform, but he seems to have already caught my attention with a more centrist attitude. Everyone else is trying to beat the others to rush to the far left.
 
The Dems need to put up someone like me, a former Republican, could vote for without hesitation. And they need to put up someone sane, likeable, and decent, to counter balance the lying fraud the Republicans have today.

And they need to remind voters how Trump and his party lied about having a healthcare plan.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Barring a widespread economic crisis, insurmountable scandal or rise of a charismatic opposition candidate, an incumbent retains a prohibitive advantage.

In 2000 and 2016, the choices did not include an incumbent. Both of those elections, the GOP lost the popular election and won with controversy. Tax cuts and a strong economy gave the GOP impetus to claim success.



The DNC has dubbed the phrase Salient Voters to describe potentially disenfranchised Trump Supporters vulnerable to entering the Anti-Trump camp. Efforts focus on identifying and targeting these voters on a local basis.



DNC launches hyper-local 2020 effort to shadow Trump on the trail

What do you consider the keys to unseating Trump?
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One would be for DNC to not actively **** on the middle class this time around, or not refer to a majority of the people who voted for Trump as racist, homophobes etc.
 
Moderate Right said:
Independents choose the president, not any "bases". I am an independent who always votes for a mix of parties every election. I voted for Obama in 2012. In order to get my vote for president the Democratic nominee must have these two things:

1. not run an anti-Trump campaign

2. not be a Democratic socialist
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I think you just actively eliminated 88% of the DNC's hopefuls for this election.
 
Keys to unseating Trump
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This sounds very complex...….but Im going to say "voting for the other person" is the most likely method.
 
PTF said:
Question...



Change the locks,then throw away those keys.
Our President isn't going anywhere so forget-about-it.
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Oh he's going somewhere, he's going to jail right after he loses this election...
 
Greenbeard said:
Hammer home his obsession with stripping people of their health care.

The GOP got destroyed on health care in 2018 and they're not getting any better on the issue.
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Yip, when he runs around preaching that they have a great new plan,he needs to be called out on it.

People need to be reminded he ran that same con last time around, and only a fool is fooled twice by the same con...
 
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