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The Liberal Legacy In a Nutshell:*

James972 said:
dear, there was this war called WW 2. In the 1950's we had the only factories in the world. Do you understand that things are different today? OMG!
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No, other countries had factories in the 1950s.

You shouldn't let history frighten you so.
 
SmartCat said:
The exodus of factory jobs really began during the Reagan administration, when labor unions became weaker and the top tax rate declined to 28%.
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Dear, that was the exact time when Japan had just become a factor in the US auto market with better cheaper cars. Union thugs violently demanding higher wages to make expensive junk cars was no longer possible. Do you understand?
 
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SmartCat said:
the top tax rate declined to 28%.
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does the liberal imagine if we raised the top tax bracket to 91% that it would encourage businessmen to do more or less business here in the USA?? Notice how a liberal always makes a conservative feel like a kindergarten teacher? This is embarrassing for America!
 
SmartCat said:
The legacy of liberalism consists of the reforms of the New Deal and Medicare. These have broad, popular support.
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New Deal reforms prolonged the Great Depression for 16 years into a world war that killed 60 million. The worst reforms in all of human history!! Medicare costs 4 times what similar care costs all over the world. That would only be popular with very stupid people.
 
James972 said:
dear, there was this war called WW 2. In the 1950's we had the only factories in the world. Do you understand that things are different today? OMG!
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Thinks are different, but the Democrats are not responsible for the differences. Increasingly, factory jobs are being performed by industrial robots. Better communication makes it possible for American factory owners to manage factories in low wage countries.
 
James972 said:
Dear, that was the exact time when Japan had just become a factor in the US auto market with better cheaper cars. Union thugs violently demanding higher wages to make expensive junk cars was no longer possible. Do you understand?
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Liberals are not responsible for the fact that the Japanese began to make better cars than Detroit.
 
SmartCat said:
Liberals are not responsible for the fact that the Japanese began to make better cars than Detroit.
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sure they are. liberals created unions filled with violent entitled lazy thugs who demanded higher and higher wages to make cheap junk cars that the Japanese could easily surpass.
 
James972 said:
does the liberal imagine if we raised the top tax bracket to 91% that it would encourage businessmen to do more or less business here in the USA?? Notice how a liberal always makes a conservative feel like a kindergarten teacher? This is embarrassing for America!
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Other affluent democracies tax their rich more heavily than we do. In low tax countries American businessmen would find poorly educated employees, high crime rates, corrupt criminal justice systems, dirt roads, and dangerous drinking water.

Your kindergarten level sarcasm is unimpressive.
 
SmartCat said:
Thinks are different, but the Democrats are not responsible for the differences. Increasingly, factory jobs are being performed by industrial robots. Better communication makes it possible for American factory owners to manage factories in low wage countries.
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dear you said you wanted to bring back unions and 91% taxes as if it was 1955 again!! Did you forget???
 
SmartCat said:
Other affluent democracies tax their rich more heavily than we do.
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sure the French are the perfect example. and they live at 65% of our GDP and riot in the streets because despite the huge tax rates the poor and middle class still cant make ends meet.. Stealing from the rich does not help the poor but rather cripples them and discourages both from working. 1+1=2
 
James972 said:
New Deal reforms prolonged the Great Depression for 16 years into a world war that killed 60 million. The worst reforms in all of human history!!
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During Roosevelt's first term there was nearly as much economic growth as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. There was considerably more job creation.

Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as Roosevelt's 1933 inauguration. That is why he was reelected three times and why reactionaries have not been able to repeal his liberal legacy. This is what President Eisenhower said about the popularity of Roosevelt's liberal legacy in a letter to his brother:

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.4 Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

Letter to Edgar Newton Eisenhower - Teaching American History

I am glad Roosevelt got the United States into World War II.
 
James972 said:
Medicare costs 4 times what similar care costs all over the world. That would only be popular with very stupid people.
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Business Insider, Mar. 7, 2019

Below is a list of the countries that spent more than $3,000 on healthcare per capita in 2017:

1. United States — $10,209

2. Switzerland — $8,009

3. Luxembourg — $6,475

4. Norway — $6,351

5. Germany — $5,728

6. Sweden — $5,511

7. Ireland — $5,449

8. Austria — $5,440

9. Netherlands — $5,386

10. Denmark — $5,183

11. France — $4,902

Ranked: Cost of healthcare per capita in 21 different countries - Business Insider

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Notice that countries with socialized medicine spend less per capita on health care than the United States. They also get better results.
 
SmartCat said:
Notice that countries with socialized medicine spend less per capita on health care than the United States. They also get better results.
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you have learned 46 times now that the USA has socialized medical care too!! Shall we try for 47?? LIberals don't learn they stick to same prejudices over and over.
 
SmartCat said:
During Roosevelt's first term there was nearly as much economic growth as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. There was considerably more job creation.

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3 cheers for the Great Depression with 30% unemployment. See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
 

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James972 said:
sure they are. liberals created unions filled with violent entitled lazy thugs who demanded higher and higher wages to make cheap junk cars that the Japanese could easily surpass.
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:lamo
 
James972 said:
he said he found it difficult to convey his thoughts. I merely agreed that it was a liberal characteristic. I was helping him feel included. Do you understand?
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Who are you again?
 
James972 said:
Dear, that was the exact time when Japan had just become a factor in the US auto market with better cheaper cars. Union thugs violently demanding higher wages to make expensive junk cars was no longer possible. Do you understand?
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Yes how dare workers try to get a seat at the table! We should just let bosses have tight control over bathroom breaks (triangle shirtwaist fire anyone?) and stuff their employees into equipment that isolates them from seeing anything but their jobs while they only have a cheap ass table to work at. You can just come out and say it, you dont care about workers.
 
James972 said:
dear you said you wanted to bring back unions and 91% taxes as if it was 1955 again!! Did you forget???
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You seem to think that globalism means that the rich should pay lower taxes on higher incomes while everyone else should pay higher taxes on lower incomes, while getting fewer benefits from the government.

You think blue collar workers in the United States should join blue collar workers in low wage third world countries in a race to the bottom to see who is willing to work longest and hardest for the lowest poverty wages.
 
bomberfox said:
Yes how dare workers try to get a seat at the table! We should just let bosses have tight control over bathroom breaks (triangle shirtwaist fire anyone?) and stuff their employees into equipment that isolates them from seeing anything but their jobs while they only have a cheap ass table to work at. You can just come out and say it, you dont care about workers.
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Well, I'm sure James972 will tell you how corporations will naturally pay their workers more because they love their employees and customers. Clearly you missed the memo as did all of the people throughout US history who had to fight for worker's rights.

:)
 
James972 said:
he said he found it difficult to convey his thoughts. I merely agreed that it was a liberal characteristic. I was helping him feel included. Do you understand?
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I understand that you are both being snarky. I am trying not to be but the illness seems to be common here.
 
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