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Democrat candidates for President saying Trump is guilty despite whatever Mueller's report reveals.

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Beto, (dirt eater) O'Rourke says in his opinion Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians, although he hasn't seen any evidence. Bernie, says the same thing based on people being indicted by Mueller but none of them for collusion or obstruction and half to them are Russians who they did not tie to Trump. The others are process crimes and lies to FBI about travel, business and things that happened before Trump. Guilt by association, but not for Hillary and her staff? Come on dems get real.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Beto, (dirt eater) O'Rourke says in his opinion Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians, although he hasn't seen any evidence. Bernie, says the same thing based on people being indicted by Mueller but none of them for collusion or obstruction and half to them are Russians who they did not tie to Trump. The others are process crimes and lies to FBI about travel, business and things that happened before Trump. Guilt by association, but not for Hillary and her staff? Come on dems get real.
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The Trump campaign colluded with Russia multiple times. It's an abominable thing and he should be impeached for it (among other reasons), but collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
 
Yeah, but at least we could afford Beto O'Rouke's universal healthcare. Forget about doctors and hospitals. Just mail every American and illegal immigrant a box of New Mexico's miracle dirt each year.
 
Cardinal said:
The Trump campaign colluded with Russia multiple times. It's an abominable thing and he should be impeached for it (among other reasons), but collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
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Who colluded with Russia was President Obama, the Clintons and numerous people in the Obama administration.

Can't "impeach" a "campaign." :lamo
 
Integrityrespec said:
Beto, (dirt eater) O'Rourke says in his opinion Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians, although he hasn't seen any evidence. Bernie, says the same thing based on people being indicted by Mueller but none of them for collusion or obstruction and half to them are Russians who they did not tie to Trump. The others are process crimes and lies to FBI about travel, business and things that happened before Trump. Guilt by association, but not for Hillary and her staff? Come on dems get real.
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We know he's guilty because we have a ****ing television set. He went on live TV and told the Russians to hack Hillary's emails, then sent several of his closest aids to meet with Russians to discuss just that.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
We know he's guilty because we have a ****ing television set. He went on live TV and told the Russians to hack Hillary's emails, then sent several of his closest aids to meet with Russians to discuss just that.
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No he didn't. He never told Russians to hack anyone.
 
:roll: "Illegal immigrant" is to differentiate from those who come here legally. It's not that hard to understand.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Beto, (dirt eater) O'Rourke says in his opinion Trump is guilty of collusion with the Russians, although he hasn't seen any evidence. Bernie, says the same thing based on people being indicted by Mueller but none of them for collusion or obstruction and half to them are Russians who they did not tie to Trump. The others are process crimes and lies to FBI about travel, business and things that happened before Trump. Guilt by association, but not for Hillary and her staff? Come on dems get real.
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Why do you start a thread without citations? Are we supposed to simply take your word for your OP claims?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Why do you start a thread without citations? Are we supposed to simply take your word for your OP claims?
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Trump wants to be taken at his word; integrity & respect?
 
Cardinal said:
The Trump campaign colluded with Russia multiple times. It's an abominable thing and he should be impeached for it (among other reasons), but collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
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Whatever "legal term" you want to use - no one else is going to be indicted by Mueller. that's the bottom line. Deal with it
 
Bullseye said:
Whatever "legal term" you want to use - no one else is going to be indicted by Mueller. that's the bottom line. Deal with it
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Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean. Also, there are about a dozen ongoing investigations into Trump and his businesses right now. So sure, nobody is going to be indicted by Mueller. And that's a very important qualifier.
 
Cardinal said:
Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean. Also, there are about a dozen ongoing investigations into Trump and his businesses right now. So sure, nobody is going to be indicted by Mueller. And that's a very important qualifier.
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What part of "no one else" confuses you? And we're NOT talking about the "dozen" on going investigations; that's just a diversionary tactic you're using to avoid the facts

Oh, and how many of those other indictments have anything to do with Russia/Trump collusion/coordination/conspiracy/. . .?
 
Bullseye said:
What part of "no one else" confuses you? And we're NOT talking about the "dozen" on going investigations; that's just a diversionary tactic you're using to avoid the facts
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Mueller was only in control of who he chose to indict. He is not in control of who other prosecutors will indict.

Here’s a list of all the ongoing government investigations that could spell legal trouble for Trump, regardless of whether he’s president, and the people and entities associated with him.
 
Cardinal said:
The Trump campaign colluded with Russia multiple times. It's an abominable thing and he should be impeached for it (among other reasons), but collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
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So where is your proof? Also no crime to impeach the President for. I wonder if you think Hillary's destruction of evidence should be prosecuted?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
We know he's guilty because we have a ****ing television set. He went on live TV and told the Russians to hack Hillary's emails, then sent several of his closest aids to meet with Russians to discuss just that.
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There is no evidence of either of those accusations as far as collusion to effect the campaign. An idol remark about telling the Russians to release Hillary's emails is not proof of collusion.
 
Integrityrespec said:
So where is your proof?
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It's a good thing I have this saved, since you guys love to ask for proof of collusion every ten minutes.

1. Trump was found to have been in business talks over the Moscow Tower project up to the election even while denying he had any business relationship with Russia.
2. His son helped to arrange a meeting between the GRU and the Trump campaign to get information on Clinton
3. His campaign manager shared polling data with the GRU.
4. His adviser was a conduit between the GRU and the Trump campaign.
5. His foreign policy adviser was arranging to get dirt on Hillary Clinton

And before you ask, "Then why hasn't anybody been arrested for collusion?" I'll repeat: Collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
 
Cardinal said:
It's a good thing I have this saved, since you guys love to ask for proof of collusion every ten minutes.

1. Trump was found to have been in business talks over the Moscow Tower project up to the election even while denying he had any business relationship with Russia.
2. His son helped to arrange a meeting between the GRU and the Trump campaign to get information on Clinton
3. His campaign manager shared polling data with the GRU.
4. His adviser was a conduit between the GRU and the Trump campaign.
5. His foreign policy adviser was arranging to get dirt on Hillary Clinton

And before you ask, "Then why hasn't anybody been arrested for collusion?" I'll repeat: Collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."
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None of which are either true or proof of collusion. How do I know this because the special prosecutor did not indict anyone on those charges, nobody on collusion, nobody. I bet Mueller understands the law and evidence better than you and the press who keep screaming its obvious.
 
Integrityrespec said:
None of which are either true or proof of collusion. How do I know this because the special prosecutor did not indict anyone on those charges, nobody on collusion, nobody. I bet Mueller understands the law and evidence better than you and the press who keep screaming its obvious.
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Collusion is not a legal term, and that's why nobody has been indicted for "collusion."

Read that sentence as many times as it takes for the meaning of it to sink in.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
We know he's guilty because we have a ****ing television set. He went on live TV and told the Russians to hack Hillary's emails, then sent several of his closest aids to meet with Russians to discuss just that.
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What a frickin joke. Trump never asked the Ruskies to hack, he said if you find. Not to mention HRC's server had been off line and in FBI hands for over a year at that point. LOL
 
Cardinal said:
Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean. Also, there are about a dozen ongoing investigations into Trump and his businesses right now. So sure, nobody is going to be indicted by Mueller. And that's a very important qualifier.
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*Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean.*

Except not a one of those indictments was even remotely related to a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy. And no more Mueller indictments.
 
hanger4 said:
*Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean.*

Except not a one of those indictments was even remotely related to a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy. And no more Mueller indictments.
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Trump surrounded himself with criminals. Do you need to see the total list?
 
Cardinal said:
Except for all the people who were indicted, you mean. Also, there are about a dozen ongoing investigations into Trump and his businesses right now. So sure, nobody is going to be indicted by Mueller. And that's a very important qualifier.
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So that's it now, after 2 years of screaming collusion, conspiracy and the man put place to investigate Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy finds zip nada zilch the left will pretend it didn't happen ??

Eyes wide shut
 
joko104 said:
No he didn't. He never told Russians to hack anyone.
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Don't think he sent several of his closest aids to discuss this just that either.
 
Cardinal said:
Mueller was only in control of who he chose to indict. He is not in control of who other prosecutors will indict.

Here’s a list of all the ongoing government investigations that could spell legal trouble for Trump, regardless of whether he’s president, and the people and entities associated with him.
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Of course, again virtually none of it is about Trump at all, but rather harassing and looking-for-any-crime as a police state mentality against anyone who Trump is associated with to make it 100% clear anyone who isn't anti-Trump will result in that person and everyone in their family being investigated in search of any possible way to make any accusation of any crime ever in their lives.

As the Democratic Party becomes more and more the American Communist Party, predictably the more they demand a total KGB style police state in which the crime is not submitting to communism and the state. I've often posted the Democratic Party should be listed formally as a terrorist organization and those in offices should be required to register as foreign agents.
 
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