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White Progressives Are Polarizing America

"Nothing I say should be construed to minimize the polarization inherent particularly in Republican populism and a Trumpian political strategy that so often depends on demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base (I’ve written about the perils of Trumpism at exhaustive length). But those who care about the health of the American republic cannot and must not ignore the fact that our most powerful cultural cohort just keeps radicalizing. And they’re radicalizing in the least tolerant way. American politics are dangerously polarized, and white progressives share a large part of the blame."

In plain English, there is destructive polarization on both sides, not only on one.

Let's talk about both; let's work on this as a nation. The eagerness of both to see the very worst in the other is part of the problem. In plainer English, polarization bad.

First we must rid ourselves of Trump. Every day he is in office we slip further into the abyss. Once that is done we can talk about picking up the pieces.
 
Well, this thread is about the shift to the far left by Democrats. You claimed that this was only in response to the right moving far right. IE: The Dems didn't start moving far left until after the Repubs had already started moving far right. Yet Bernies history shows that he has been a socialist for much of his political career, was getting continually re-elected to his Senate position, and as he has gotten older the more left he has swung. Obama's policies also were more socialist than than previous Presidents, IE: more of a shift to far left. While he wasn't a complete socialist (socialist lite at best really), he, as a democrat was still shifting the Democrats that direction already.

Maybe it's the Right's viewpoint that has made Democrats look "far left". It's not really far from the consensus in the 30 years after WWII. Do you ever look at our history or were you born yesterday? Since you guys revere JFK as a great "tax cutter", how about we go back to the top income tax rates he suggested?
 
And YOU are part of the problem. I am generally conservative, but I am not a racist nor am I pathetic or an idiot.

Well, maybe I am. I posted this thread thinking that productive discussion might come of it. My mistake. ;)

The deflection and refusal to address the article are telling.
 
Well, this thread is about the shift to the far left by Democrats. You claimed that this was only in response to the right moving far right. IE: The Dems didn't start moving far left until after the Repubs had already started moving far right. Yet Bernies history shows that he has been a socialist for much of his political career, was getting continually re-elected to his Senate position, and as he has gotten older the more left he has swung. Obama's policies also were more socialist than than previous Presidents, IE: more of a shift to far left. While he wasn't a complete socialist (socialist lite at best really), he, as a democrat was still shifting the Democrats that direction already.

*facepalm*

What laughably dishonest tripe. Policies that are 'more to the left' are not 'more socialist', no matter how you try and polish that turd. Obama isn't even remotely socialist, nor can you demonstrate that he is.
 
*facepalm*

What laughably dishonest tripe. Policies that are 'more to the left' are not 'more socialist', no matter how you try and polish that turd. Obama isn't even remotely socialist, nor can you demonstrate that he is.

This is not a callout, just a HUNCH:
If you're in Bonners Ferry, Idaho, otherwise known alternately as "God's Country" or "Fundamentalist Mormon Hell", I am sure Obama seems like an alien from Mars with Muslim terrorist tendencies and a solid Marxist curriculum vitae.
In fact, Donny Osmond probably pals around with terrorists and John Wayne is suspect because "Marion Morrison" just might be a little bit "Jewish"

....to some people.

By comparison, a Kal Stang is probably that town's version of a liberal and I wager few if any locals know he visits here.

Am I wrong, Kal?
 
Maybe it's the Right's viewpoint that has made Democrats look "far left". It's not really far from the consensus in the 30 years after WWII. Do you ever look at our history or were you born yesterday? Since you guys revere JFK as a great "tax cutter", how about we go back to the top income tax rates he suggested?

If I had a dime for every far-Righty who claims to have once been a "Kennedy Democrat" I'd be buying a private island right now.

And yes, after almost thirty years of Democrats trying to placate and cater to the Republicans and getting kicked in the balls for it, Obama must have seemed like a socialist, and some of the new crop of Democrats, who talk like FDR, seem like bomb throwing America hating radicals.
Face it, the majority of Trump Republicans talk like John Birch Society members, who by the way, were putting up WANTED FOR TREASON posters of Kennedy right before he was gunned down in Dallas.

JFKwantedtreason.jpg

And it's only moved even FURTHER to the Right since those Obama posters went up!!
 
Has to be expected because WHITE Republican party shifted VERY FAR to the right...

There was going to be push back.. Especially considering the Moderate Republicans turned out to be cowards and allowed the GOP to shift far right and allowed an awful person like Trump to become the GOP's leader..

It was only a matter of time before the Dems moved further to the left.

So no, most of the blame for the division is with the GOP and the GOP Moderates who cared more about party and appointing judges than they did in the country.

There was no Republican shift to the right with Trump. That is as false a theory as the great democrat to republican switcheroo theory. Utter nonsense. The democrats own the despair and hate and they always will.
 
Many right-wing bigots brought this on themselves. Maybe they should have thought twice before posting pictures of Obama's face on a watermelon, or Michelle Obama as a chimp in a dress and heels, or being OK with babies being locked in cages.

That, in my opinion, is the polarization of America.

Yes, it is true, all of us right-wing bigots did all of these terrible things that turned out to be democrat hate hoaxes. Well done
 
LMAO im glad this retarded article was at least posted in the partasin section where it belongs thats good.

I stop reading right here:



:lamo:lamo:lamo
it doesnt get more stupid than that but at least its funny!

If you want, I can find and play Clinton's speeches for you.
 
This piece by David French discusses a Gallup study on shifting Democratic ideology and data suggesting that left-wing polarization is "primarily driven by a “progressive activist” class that is disproportionately white, disproportionately college-educated, and disproportionately secular," and
argues that:

And ironically enough, a large part of this angry white activism is conducted on behalf of a black and brown population that is more moderate and more religious than their woke white champions. At a time when being a “white savior” is seen as a mark of insensitivity — denying the power and autonomy of nonwhite Americans — white savioring is practically the mission statement of woke Twitter.

Nothing I say should be construed to minimize the polarization inherent particularly in Republican populism and a Trumpian political strategy that so often depends on demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base (I’ve written about the perils of Trumpism at exhaustive length). But those who care about the health of the American republic cannot and must not ignore the fact that our most powerful cultural cohort just keeps radicalizing. And they’re radicalizing in the least tolerant way. American politics are dangerously polarized, and white progressives share a large part of the blame. White Progressives Shifting Democratic Party to Left and Polarizing America | National Review

My question is this: Is there a point that will prompt push-back?



I've read enough to dismiss the whole piece. It's opinion, right wing at that, and appears inflamatory; deliberately designed to get the non-white educated group to fear the white educated group.

It's propaganda people. Which means in MAGAland it will become Gospel.
 
The right is shifting to the left, as always these last few decades. The problem is that Democrats no longer exist, for the most part. Those Democrats who loved this country and wanted to continue our prosperity have been replaced by far left communist moronic leaders who want to destroy America because of the democrats past racism and because they truly hate white people who disagree with them. The leadership of the dimmiecrat party is about as dumb as a couple of nickles slated for whorehouse.
 
If you want, I can find and play Clinton's speeches for you.
?? ive heard them all but its even more funny that you think that will change anything and make the bat**** insane claims of the OP article true and integrity based LMAO
 
Has to be expected because WHITE Republican party shifted VERY FAR to the right...

There was going to be push back.. Especially considering the Moderate Republicans turned out to be cowards and allowed the GOP to shift far right and allowed an awful person like Trump to become the GOP's leader..

It was only a matter of time before the Dems moved further to the left.

So no, most of the blame for the division is with the GOP and the GOP Moderates who cared more about party and appointing judges than they did in the country.

You're cropping the timeline in order to omit responsibility. Progressive white Americans abandoned the white working class decades ago, creating animosity among whites who were not fortunate enough to escape the ill effects of progressivism on society. The more honest members of the Democratic party admitted as much after the election of 2016.
 
Wrong. Corrupt Politicians Are Polarizing America.

We have too many hell bent on converting us to socialism, and fomenting disunion through a lying and cooperative MSM that is ready to lie, but also exaggerate divisive subjects, in order to achieve it.
 
I've read enough to dismiss the whole piece. It's opinion, right wing at that, and appears inflamatory; deliberately designed to get the non-white educated group to fear the white educated group.

It's propaganda people. Which means in MAGAland it will become Gospel.

Dismiss this at your peril. HRC did just that, skipping Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, because those states were taken for granted.
 
We have too many hell bent on converting us to socialism, and fomenting disunion through a lying and cooperative MSM that is ready to lie, but also exaggerate divisive subjects, in order to achieve it.

I wouldn't say all progressives are socialists. But its good that the Alt-Right are fringe.
 
?? ive heard them all but its even more funny that you think that will change anything and make the bat**** insane claims of the OP article true and integrity based LMAO

If you can't admit that the left has failed and gone full retard, I am not sure that you should be argued with.
 
If you can't admit that the left has failed and gone full retard, I am not sure that you should be argued with.
translation: you cant support the failed op article
theres nothing to argue about, thats why its in the partisan forum, the OP article is factually wrong and lies like it are whats actually gone full retard :shrug:

i deal in facts and logic, you have provided none :)
 
translation: you cant support the failed op article
theres nothing to argue about, thats why its in the partisan forum, the OP article is factually wrong and lies like it are whats actually gone full retard :shrug:

i deal in facts and logic, you have provided none :)

Why are you ignoring the obvious bias on the left that projects such hatred and violence against conservatives? You imagine these ridiculous events that do not exist, and you use your false accusations as evidence of your insane claims?
 
1.)Why are you ignoring the obvious bias on the left that projects such hatred and violence against conservatives?
2.) You imagine these ridiculous events that do not exist
3.) and you use your false accusations as evidence of your insane claims?

1.)because no such thing exist when referring to the left as a group just like it doesnt exist when you refer to the right as a group. Like i said i deal in facts and logic, not moon bat conspiracy theories.
yes there are lots of INDIVIDUAL nutters out there right and left but they dont represent the groups, thats pure ignorance an biased dishonesty.
2.) imagine?, nope just go by reality, disagree factually prove otherwise . . you cant LOL
3.) what insane claims, quote them and prove them insane again . . you factually cant

:popcorn2:
 
Why are you ignoring the obvious bias on the left that projects such hatred and violence against conservatives? You imagine these ridiculous events that do not exist, and you use your false accusations as evidence of your insane claims?
Those on the left, for the most part, are incapable of seeing their own bias/idiocy.
 
I've read enough to dismiss the whole piece. It's opinion, right wing at that, and appears inflamatory; deliberately designed to get the non-white educated group to fear the white educated group.

It's propaganda people. Which means in MAGAland it will become Gospel.

Right. You've "read enough." Couldn't be bothered to read the piece--didn't have enough respect to--but are at turns stating the obvious (why, yes, this is an opinion piece, and I even began this thread in Partisan Politics) and judging that the piece "appears" to be "inflammatory."

How embarrassing for you to be caught projecting your own propaganda in this way. I like, though, how you addressed the "people" and worked both MAGA and the Gospel (you did cap this) into a sentence.
 
I don't consider Trump far right. I know many on the left consider him such though. But I don't see the racism, misogyny, anti-Semitic etc etc that so many accuse him of either. I also don't believe that Trump was elected in 2016 because people thought Romney was too moderate. Most on the right that voted for Trump did so because they believed he was not a part of the status quo. He was an outsider. He was not a career politician and said things whether they were PC or not and, perhaps most importantly, they believed that he would bring back manufacturing jobs and make citizens first in his agenda instead of everyone else in the world as has been the habit of the last few Presidents. To many that was a return to what politicians should be focusing on. That isn't a far right stance.

But lets take a look at those on the left. Lets start with McCain. This was a man that was once endorsed by the NRA. A man that voted against Bill Clintons AWB and for protections of gun manufacturers. Now a days he is completely the opposite. Wants "assault weapons" banned, and wants to repeal the protections he voted for previously. He also is now for UHC and free college for all. That's a pretty big shift to the far left wouldn't you say?

Is this some kind of typo? McCain is no longer among the living.
 
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