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McCabe, Baker and even Rosenstein admitted under oath discussing wearing a secret wire to record the President in conjunction with conspiring with White House staffers to invoke the 25th amendment. What was that all about? Here are some of the common democrat explanations:

He was just joking.
McCabe made him do it.
He never intended to try to overthrow the president.
He was always above reproach and Trump is a fiend for questioning his loyalty.
His fidelity was to truth and justice and the will of the American people over his fidelity to the deranged occupier of the White House.
The American people wanted Trump removed from office no matter what it took.
Trump was obstructing justice by firing Comey even though Rosenstein recommended Trump fire Comey.

And so forth.
 
Or maybe it was a sign of panic at the realization that the elected President of the United States was likely to be an agent for a hostile foreign government, and continues to be to this day. What patriot wouldn't consider wearing a wire at that point?

It's a moot point because evidence that he's a Russian asset is out in the open and wearing a wire is unlikely to net information that could be all that worse than what we already know.
 
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Cardinal said:
Or maybe it was a sign of panic at the realization that the elected President of the United States was likely to be an agent for a hostile foreign government, and continues to be to this day. What patriot wouldn't be considering wearing a wire at that point?

It's a moot point because evidence that he's a Russian asset is out in the open and wearing a wire is unlikely to net information that could be all that worse than what we already know.
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Most likely, it was motivated by partisan politics.

Had there been any real evidence they wouldn't have tried to coerce (threaten) the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment. Then, when that didn't work, one of the conspirators appointed a special councel..

Those boys launched a coup and they got caught.
 
apdst said:
Most likely, it was motivated by partisan politics.
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Err, yes, partisan.

The "Republican" President - who has changed his political affiliation several times, having lampooned conservatives at various times in his life - who is being investigated by a registered Republican Special Counsel, appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General, on various topics in addition to the President's firing of a Republican FBI Director and his subsequent treatment of the Republican Acting FBI Director.

Being a young person, I fully expect to see the day after Trump has been excised from office, likely in prison, where elected Republican officials get on national TV and stake an ownership claim in impeaching Trump and pointing to the army of Republicans who are participating in this investigation as evidence.
 
I would not go near Trump w/o a wire or multiple witnesses I trusted. The man is a congenital liar.

The interesting thing to note here is - this means WH staff were discussing the 25th. There isn't anything illegal about it. That isn't a coup. Trump is incompetent; we all know this. Some people just continue to enable the moron because he furthers some agenda they have (ignoring the Cult here - they are invested in the orange Trump'NChrist).
 
Given all the testimony and evidence I've seen, I'm inclined to think that Rosenstein is being set up in respect to this "wire" thing.

However, I don't give Rosenstein a pass. I think he has actively worked to try to cover up the actions of the corrupt Obama administration pukes...to protect them.
 
Cardinal said:
Or maybe it was a sign of panic at the realization that the elected President of the United States was likely to be an agent for a hostile foreign government, and continues to be to this day. What patriot wouldn't consider wearing a wire at that point?

It's a moot point because evidence that he's a Russian asset is out in the open and wearing a wire is unlikely to net information that could be all that worse than what we already know.
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v---Conspiracy forum is that-a-way.
 
marke said:
McCabe, Baker and even Rosenstein admitted under oath discussing wearing a secret wire to record the President in conjunction with conspiring with White House staffers to invoke the 25th amendment. What was that all about? Here are some of the common democrat explanations:

He was just joking.
McCabe made him do it.
He never intended to try to overthrow the president.
He was always above reproach and Trump is a fiend for questioning his loyalty.
His fidelity was to truth and justice and the will of the American people over his fidelity to the deranged occupier of the White House.
The American people wanted Trump removed from office no matter what it took.
Trump was obstructing justice by firing Comey even though Rosenstein recommended Trump fire Comey.

And so forth.
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McCabe, Baker and even Rosenstein admitted under oath discussing wearing a secret wire to record the President in conjunction with conspiring with White House staffers to invoke the 25th amendment.
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<- Is that illegal? Is the 25th a crime? How about the 2nd?

You Trump'NChrist believers need to pull your heads out.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
<- Is that illegal? Is the 25th a crime? How about the 2nd?

You Trump'NChrist believers need to pull your heads out.
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Yes. The anti-Trump justice officials were way out of line taking it upon themselves to try to arrange a coup with Trump cabinet officials to use the 25th amendment to remove Trump. Leftist democrats do not see the problem which makes such treasonous acts all the more dangerous in our current deranged democrat environment.
 
marke said:
Yes. The anti-Trump justice officials were way out of line taking it upon themselves to try to arrange a coup with Trump cabinet officials to use the 25th amendment to remove Trump. Leftist democrats do not see the problem which makes such treasonous acts all the more dangerous in our current deranged democrat environment.
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You need to prove that "cabinet officials" didn't start the process. If McCabe started it, you might have a case. However, there are numerous ex "cabinet officials" that have already written books expressing similar sentiments.
 
apdst said:
Most likely, it was motivated by partisan politics.
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Rosenstein is a Republican appointed by Trump.

C'mon, you can do better than that.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
You need to prove that "cabinet officials" didn't start the process. If McCabe started it, you might have a case. However, there are numerous ex "cabinet officials" that have already written books expressing similar sentiments.
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What right does the Justice Department have to bring a case against Trump for removal based on the 25th amendment? NONE.

If you struggle with that fact then you should consider that Rosenstein began backpedaling on the 25th amendment wire plan as soon as Baker revealed that secretive plan to Congress. Rosenstein knew that was a serious violation of the President's civil rights and a serious violation of the rights of all Americans, especially those who elected Trump as president, as well as an act of treason.
 
apdst said:
And?...
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C'mon man, you can do better than "partisan politics" when Rosenstein is a Republican appointed by Trump.

Give me a better excuse. I know you can do better than that. ;)
 
marke said:
What right does the Justice Department have to bring a case against Trump for removal based on the 25th amendment? NONE.

If you struggle with that fact then you should consider that Rosenstein began backpedaling on the 25th amendment wire plan as soon as Baker revealed that secretive plan to Congress. Rosenstein knew that was a serious violation of the President's civil rights and a serious violation of the rights of all Americans, especially those who elected Trump as president, as well as an act of treason.
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The DOJ can't invoke the 25th. The DOJ knowing that some cabinet officials were thinking about it is not criminal. You are acting like it was all a DOJ plot, but you have no evidence of that.

Take a deep breath...
 
<alt>doxygen said:
The DOJ can't invoke the 25th. The DOJ knowing that some cabinet officials were thinking about it is not criminal. You are acting like it was all a DOJ plot, but you have no evidence of that.

Take a deep breath...
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Professor, Government Studies Refresher Course, State University: I am glad to have you back here for your refresher, Benedict Rosenstein. Today we will cover invoking the 25th amendment. First, let us recognize that the 25th amendment cannot be invoked by anyone unless first initialized by the President or the Vice President of the US. Got that? I see you are tired. That is enough study for today.
 
marke said:
Professor, Government Studies Refresher Course, State University: I am glad to have you back here for your refresher, Benedict Rosenstein. Today we will cover invoking the 25th amendment. First, let us recognize that the 25th amendment cannot be invoked by anyone unless first initialized by the President or the Vice President of the US. Got that? I see you are tired. That is enough study for today.
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Where is your evidence that Rosenstein originated the idea? ...and no, Pence would not HAVE to be the person who originated it.

"Invoke" is different. No one invoked anything here.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
<- Is that illegal? Is the 25th a crime? How about the 2nd?

You Trump'NChrist believers need to pull your heads out.
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How dare anyone think about invoking the Constitution to protect us against a dangerous leader!
 
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