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Finley; New face of anti-semitism is black

Lord Tammerlain said:
Define anti-semitism
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This one works for me.......

an·ti-Sem·i·tismDictionary result for anti-Semitism
/ˌan(t)ēˈseməˌtizəm,ˌanˌtīˈseməˌtizəm/Submit
noun
hostility to or prejudice against Jews.
 
Dutch said:
The new face of anti-Semitism in America is increasingly black, liberal and famous.

So......what do you guys think?
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A lot of nonsense here.

Farrakhan is still welcome on the public stage
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Really? I haven't seen him. I'm 36, fairly connected and in tune with the media, and I'm not sure I could pick Farrakhan out of a police line up.

Lebron is the only person in this article who is of any note whatsoever. He apologized for his misunderstanding after it being pointed out. The rest of it is mostly talking about criticism of Israel itself. Israel is a country. It has elected leaders. Criticizing the individual choices of those leaders is not an attack on Jews as a whole, and anybody who believes that is a moron.

The best you got here are some inappropriate references to a stereotype about Jews and money. Not cool, but even many Jewish comedians have made references to that. When you compare that to Trump's statements about **** hole countries in Africa. His supporter's clear disdain for the people of Mexico. His making fun of a handicap journalist for his handicap. His supporters attacking a camera man. His lack of defense for an American Journalist murdered and dismembered by Saudi Arabia and his referring to literal Nazis who murdered a young woman as some "very good people." You don't have a moral leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing anything any liberal has to say.
 
I think all forms of prejudice, anti-semitism included, is increasingly alien to younger generations. Because of this, they regurgitate things they hear without understanding the history behind them. Rep Omar falls into this category IMO. Some children in my neighborhood both white and black formed a "band" and called themselves the "Jigaboos." Of course, they were immediately educated as to why that word is offensive, but no one thought those children were racists.

I think we're going to see things like this marginally increase in the future, and I don't think this is a bad thing. Culture is changing faster than our lexicon, and I'm glad that traditional prejudices tend to be the furthest thing from the younger generation's mind.
 
Dutch said:
This one works for me.......

an·ti-Sem·i·tismDictionary result for anti-Semitism
/ˌan(t)ēˈseməˌtizəm,ˌanˌtīˈseməˌtizəm/Submit
noun
hostility to or prejudice against Jews.
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Does criticism of Israel fall into that category?
 
MrWonka said:
A lot of nonsense here.



Really? I haven't seen him. I'm 36, fairly connected and in tune with the media, and I'm not sure I could pick Farrakhan out of a police line up.

Lebron is the only person in this article who is of any note whatsoever. He apologized for his misunderstanding after it being pointed out. The rest of it is mostly talking about criticism of Israel itself. Israel is a country. It has elected leaders. Criticizing the individual choices of those leaders is not an attack on Jews as a whole, and anybody who believes that is a moron.

The best you got here are some inappropriate references to a stereotype about Jews and money. Not cool, but even many Jewish comedians have made references to that. When you compare that to Trump's statements about **** hole countries in Africa. His supporter's clear disdain for the people of Mexico. His making fun of a handicap journalist for his handicap. His supporters attacking a camera man. His lack of defense for an American Journalist murdered and dismembered by Saudi Arabia and his referring to literal Nazis who murdered a young woman as some "very good people." You don't have a moral leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing anything any liberal has to say.
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You haven't "seen" him. Seriously? You haven't "seen" him?

Ok. I guess you're just not as "connected" as some of our connected Democratic politicians.

Seven House Democrats Have Direct Ties To Notorious Anti-Semite [VIDEO] | The Daily Caller

...At least seven House Democrats are known to have direct ties to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a notorious anti-Semite and racist who has called Jews “satanic” and said white people “deserve to die.”

California Reps. Maxine Waters and Barbara Lee, Illinois Rep. Danny Davis, Indiana Rep. Andre Carson, Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, New York Rep. Gregory Meeks and Texas Rep. Al Green have all attended meetings with Farrakhan while in Congress, according to photos, videos and witness accounts of the meetings reviewed by The Daily Caller News Foundation.....
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Dershowitz: I Wouldn't Have Campaigned for Obama If I Knew About Farrakhan Pic

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Lord Tammerlain said:
Does criticism of Israel fall into that category?
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That's a decision for you to make there LT. I remember you from WS. I cannot remember, you're from Canada, right? There was two of you. One of you jewish. I remember pointing out the anti semitism from the left in those days. He, agreed with me.

Anyway whichever one you are there's always this.......

Ilhan Omar: 'I unequivocally apologize' after backlash over new Israel tweets - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota publicly apologized Monday after she faced backlash for tweets condemned by both sides of the aisle as anti-Semitic.

"Anti-Semitism is real and I am grateful for Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes," Omar said. "My intention is never to offend my constituents or Jewish Americans as a whole. We have to always be willing to step back and think through criticism, just as I expect people to hear me when others attack me for my identity. This is why I unequivocally apologize."......
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lwf said:
I think all forms of prejudice, anti-semitism included, is increasingly alien to younger generations. Because of this, they regurgitate things they hear without understanding the history behind them. Rep Omar falls into this category IMO. Some children in my neighborhood both white and black formed a "band" and called themselves the "Jigaboos." Of course, they were immediately educated as to why that word is offensive, but no one thought those children were racists.

I think we're going to see things like this marginally increase in the future, and I don't think this is a bad thing. Culture is changing faster than our lexicon, and I'm glad that traditional prejudices tend to be the furthest thing from the younger generation's mind.
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What Omar says is racist. Her age is no excuse.

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When trump does it, it's a joke.

When anyone else does itt, it's anti-Semitism.

I am personally against the lobbying of APAIC and Israel. I am against the vast amount of evangelical money pouring into Israel.

I am not against Jewish people. They have their religion, who cares.

Just get the money out of politics.
 
Dutch said:
What Omar says is racist. Her age is no excuse.
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Yes it is. Racism requires intent. If there is no intent, there is no racism. The children in my neighborhood were not racists even though they called their band the "Jigaboos." They were ignorant. When they were educated, they apologized and said they didn't mean it that way. What Omar said was ignorant and unwise. When it was pointed out, she apologized and said she didn't mean it that way. Hence, it was not racist and there is no indication that she is in any way anti-Semitic. LeBron did the same. No anti-Semitism.
 
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lwf said:
Yes it is. Racism requires intent. If there is no intent, there is no racism. The children in my neighborhood were not racists even though they called their band the "Jigaboos." They were ignorant. When they were educated, they apologized and said they didn't mean it that way. What Omar said was ignorant and unwise. When it was pointed out, she apologized and said she didn't mean it that way. Hence, it was not racist and there is no indication that she is in any way anti-Semitic. LeBron did the same. No anti-Semitism.
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Neither Le Bron nor Representative Ilan Omar are children. They do not have that excuse.

For the second time in a month, Ilhan Omar says she unknowingly spread anti-Semitism
 
Dutch said:
Neither Le Bron nor Representative Ilan Omar are children. They do not have that excuse.
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The excuse isn't that they are children, it's that they didn't know better. If there is other evidence of them deliberately saying anti-Semitic things, then I would agree with you. I haven't looked into LeBron James, but I haven't been able to find anything else on Omar. The anti-Semitic things she said are on par with the anti-Semitic things Trump has said, and I don't call him anti-Semitic either. He's just ignorant. Like Omar. It's a little embarrassing for him that he's a 72 year-old American born and raised in New York City and she's only 38 and from Somalia, but either way, I see no evidence that either one is anti-Semitic.
 
Obscurity said:
Being against Israeli lobbying is not and never has been anti-Semitic. I am so tired of this being used. Its just like the liberal race card.
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I'm calling out the loons who make Israel bashing the mother of all virtues | Maajid Nawaz | The Blogs

...The Boycott Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement is mostly spearheaded in the West by people who have little to nothing attaching them to the Middle-East conflict.

Nothing, that is, beyond the fact that belonging to the hard-left and not supporting BDS has become the equivalent of claiming a love for fashion, while hating haute couture. Though unlike haute couture, BDS is an inelegant and simplistic solution to a protracted and incredibly complicated problem. But who cares for detail when you have a fabulous placard to wave?

The lazy analogy that BDS rests on is with South African apartheid. But unlike apartheid-era South Africa, Arabs make up 20 percent of Israel’s full citizenry. Most of these Arab-Israeli citizens are Muslim. There are mosques on Israeli beaches. Alongside Hebrew, Arabic is an official language of Israel. An Arab-Israeli judge has even impeached and convicted former Israeli prime minster, Ehud Olmert...
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Obscurity said:
When trump does it, it's a joke.

When anyone else does itt, it's anti-Semitism.

I am personally against the lobbying of APAIC and Israel. I am against the vast amount of evangelical money pouring into Israel.

I am not against Jewish people. They have their religion, who cares.

Just get the money out of politics.
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Ok, give me a link indicating Trump made anti semitic remarks. Mebbe' you can find him making anti semitic remarks about his jewish grandchildren or mebbe' his jewish son in law. You know the one that's been working so closely with the Israelis of late.

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truthatallcost said:
Its interesting that the author twice cites Trump's campaign slogan of 'America First' as proof of his supposed antisemitic undertones. The author seemingly gave credence to one of the most widely held beliefs about Jews for centuries with that line of attack.
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For the record, I don't think Trump is an anti-Semite. I think his anti-Semitic remarks come from a place of ignorance about political correctness and ignorance of traditional anti-Semitic canards, not hatred. I think the same of Representative Omar.
 
lwf said:
For the record, I don't think Trump is an anti-Semite. I think his anti-Semitic remarks come from a place of ignorance about political correctness and ignorance of traditional anti-Semitic canards, not hatred.
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Plus, a large double standard exists, where for example, your article's author accused Trump of antisemitism for using John Stewart's real surname (Leibowitz) in a Tweet, while it was also common for Trump's critics at the time to refer to his family's original surname (Drumph), which of course wasn't anti-German, because no such noun exists. So it's entirely confusing to know what we're allowed to say around Jewish people, when those same set of standards don't apply to others who might be indistinguishable by their appearance.


I think the same of Representative Omar.
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For the life if me, I can't figure out the 'antisemitism' contained in a Tweet which read, 'it's all about the Benjamins baby', when referring to a lobbying group which exists to exchange money for favoritism.
 
Dutch said:
The new face of anti-Semitism in America is increasingly black, liberal and famous.

So......what do you guys think?
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I followed the alt-right movement before, during and after Trump's campaign existed. The vast majority have consistently discussed a secret Soros-led zionist movement to control the media and deep state. They call Jews every name in the book and legitimately - legitimate - hate them.

The argument about liberals being anti-semitic revolves around a stand against Israel in their brutal responses to Hamas' terrorist attacks. The latest controversy about lobbying for Israel and ensuring congress will stand behind them no matter what they do isn't anti-semitic in any way, unless generalizations and insults are used. There are racist people on both sides of the aisle. But the MAGA crowd is as guilty as anybody when it comes to, say, bombing synagogues. Love and not more hate will solve problems like these. What do you think?
 
Mustachio said:
I followed the alt-right movement before, during and after Trump's campaign existed. The vast majority have consistently discussed a secret Soros-led zionist movement to control the media and deep state. They call Jews every name in the book and legitimately - legitimate - hate them.

The argument about liberals being anti-semitic revolves around a stand against Israel in their brutal responses to Hamas' terrorist attacks. The latest controversy about lobbying for Israel and ensuring congress will stand behind them no matter what they do isn't anti-semitic in any way, unless generalizations and insults are used. There are racist people on both sides of the aisle. But the MAGA crowd is as guilty as anybody when it comes to, say, bombing synagogues. Love and not more hate will solve problems like these. What do you think?
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Whataboutism is no response to the anti-Semitism of Ilhan Omar.
 
Jack Hays said:
Whataboutism is no response to the anti-Semitism of Ilhan Omar.
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It is, however, an appropriate response to calls for her to step down. Let's be fair. If she ought to step down for such comments even after issuing a mea culpa and apology, shouldn't someone who made similar comments and never admitted wrong doing and never apologized also step down? What's the difference here?
 
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