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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

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    The sad part about it is Trump could have easily looked at immigration from a much broader perspective and pushed for immigration policies that would have made a difference. In that he could have included barriers to help DHS/BP; I would have been on board with something like that.
    If Trump and the Republicans were smart, which we know they aren't, this is the PERFECT time to push for things like Mandated E-Verify and harsher punishments for employers who use illegals. However, they choose their battle as a "wall' .
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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Drugs go through ports primarily to insure that there are more photo ops for law enforcement with big stashes.
    This has got to be your dumbest comment I've read from you. So drug dealers purposely get their stashes taken to insure more photo ops for law enforcement? Because THAT'S what drug dealers want.

    You just keep proving me right every day about Trump supporters and not in a good way for them.
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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It’s naive and stupid. Drugs are smuggled across uncontrolled sections of border all the time. It’s MUCH easier to get 100 twenty pound shipments across open border than it is to get one 2000 pound shipment across a controlled port and smugglers know this. Drugs go through ports primarily to insure that there are more photo ops for law enforcement with big stashes.
    Don't be ridiculous!! When was the last time someone was caught smuggling drugs across an open border???

    Just yesterday someone got caught smuggling drugs into a philly port...

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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    If Trump and the Republicans were smart, which we know they aren't, this is the PERFECT time to push for things like Mandated E-Verify and harsher punishments for employers who use illegals. However, they choose their battle as a "wall' .
    Just a layperson's perspective here, but if someone asked me how to go about it I would look to do the following:

    1. Eliminating the demand for cheap labor through existing laws and punishing employers violating the law.
    2. Provide barriers in high population border areas and improved surveillance/staffing in remote areas including technology to aid BP agents respond quickly.
    3. Improve the registration process for asylum seekers so it is a more efficient process and we can document those coming into this country.

    Something like that would signal to me that a person is interested in improving a bad situation. I wouldn't have just talked about border security without the others because in my opinion they should all be pursued simultaneously. My guess is even if Trump builds a wall, the rest will fall by the wayside and all we'll be left with is a wall we'll be maintaining forever while people will still find a way in. Then of course the border security does nothing to address the large percentage of people who arrive by other means and stay passed their allotted time.

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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by ElChupacabra View Post
    Just a layperson's perspective here, but if someone asked me how to go about it I would look to do the following:

    1. Eliminating the demand for cheap labor through existing laws and punishing employers violating the law.
    2. Provide barriers in high population border areas and improved surveillance/staffing in remote areas including technology to aid BP agents respond quickly.
    3. Improve the registration process for asylum seekers so it is a more efficient process and we can document those coming into this country.

    Something like that would signal to me that a person is interested in improving a bad situation. I wouldn't have just talked about border security without the others because in my opinion they should all be pursued simultaneously. My guess is even if Trump builds a wall, the rest will fall by the wayside and all we'll be left with is a wall we'll be maintaining forever while people will still find a way in. Then of course the border security does nothing to address the large percentage of people who arrive by other means and stay passed their allotted time.
    I've said it before, NEITHER the Dems or the Reps, including Trump are really interested in TRUE border security and immigration reform.
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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    Don't be ridiculous!! When was the last time someone was caught smuggling drugs across an open border???

    Just yesterday someone got caught smuggling drugs into a philly port...

    South Texas leads in marijuana seizures inbetween the points of entry according to this border patrol guy; unfortunately he didn't specify other drugs.

    I wish Trump had been able to show also what else is entering inbetween points of entry, like at that guy's section alone:

    the day before Trump showed up, they apprehended over 400 illegals of which 133 were from countries like Pakistan, India, China, Ecuador, Romania, Nicaragua etc.

    (start at 2:11)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVjZkkQJ-58



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    UPDATE: Police say the three MS-13 members accused of stabbing a teen on Long Island all entered the U.S. illegally
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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    This has got to be your dumbest comment I've read from you. So drug dealers purposely get their stashes taken to insure more photo ops for law enforcement? Because THAT'S what drug dealers want.

    You just keep proving me right every day about Trump supporters and not in a good way for them.
    Yeah. I'm an idiot. You're right. Drug smugglers would NEVER hand over one of their loads to someone in law enforcement who might then get a little recognition and a promotion and more authority over what enforcement resources get allocated where. That would really be a stupid thing to do. I don't know what I was thinking. Thanks for straightening me out.

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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrumpGOP View Post
    Don't be ridiculous!! When was the last time someone was caught smuggling drugs across an open border???

    Just yesterday someone got caught smuggling drugs into a philly port...
    Well, the purpose of smuggling drugs across open sections of the border is so that you DON'T get caught.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/u...rder-wall.html

    I can GUARANTEE you that sending someone over, under or around the fence or across an open section with a bale of weed or a backpack full of meth is quite common. Send 10 kids with 20 pounds each and even if a BP vehicle is sitting right there 8 or 9 of them will get through to a drop point. It's MUCH better odds than going through a checkpoint and much cheaper.

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    Re: Trump is using Guns, Drugs and Border Patrol as Props

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post

    I can GUARANTEE you that sending someone over, under or around the fence or across an open section with a bale of weed or a backpack full of meth is quite common. Send 10 kids with 20 pounds each and even if a BP vehicle is sitting right there 8 or 9 of them will get through to a drop point. It's MUCH better odds than going through a checkpoint and much cheaper.
    Let's see the pictures.

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