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White Liberals Dumb Themselves Down When they Speak to Black People, a new Study Contends

Sarah Palin dumbed herself down and talked very folksy to her base. I do the same when I am dealing with rural white people, or the Trump base. They use words like ain't a lot and don't believe in science. :lol:

What a snotty overgeneralization.
 
Snotty? Hey, as long as they are poor and white and live in trailer courts, they deserve it.

I hope you're being facetious here. Are you?
 
Off-Topic:

To the extent white conservatives use diction and syntax similar to that of the GOP's current leader, there's no "down to" to go to when talking to anyone, other perhaps than ten-year-olds and younger children.
Of all people to invoke Orange Man Bad... Really Xelor, I thought you were above that. See post #19.
First:​
The point of the post you quoted isn't/wasn't to expressly deride Trump but rather to communicate the actual subject of the sentence. Trump isn't the subject of the sentence; he is mentioned in the sentence's subordinate, not independent, clause.

Why the hell you chose to hone in on the subordinate clause rather than the independent one is beyond me...I'm ascribing your doing so to "reading comprehension issues" and leaving it there.

Second:
"Invoke," my ass. Other than that robot meme I use from time to time, I'm not much of a "memer." I certainly don't need memes to express my thoughts about Donald Trump.

Third, because you chose to focus on the subordinate clause rather than the subject of the sentence in my above-shown post:​
Existential is it that the man, when he's not reading a prepared statement, speaks like a ten-year-old (by some analysts' assessment, like an 8-year-old) and he expresses a ton of benighted notions. That is what it is, but it is so. You can call that "invoking a meme" if that assuages your psyche somehow. I call my saying so an accurate description of his harangue.​


Donald Trump didn't always speak like a child...He also didn't express profound ideas either, but he once was articulate to the level of some stripe of adult.





Hell, the man only occasionally extemporaneously speaks in complete sentences, and less often, again extemporaneously, does he "keep it together" enough that he moves coherently from one thought to the next.

You don't have to take my word for it. Watch a range of videos wherein the speakers are people having the level of intellect and locutionary adroitness Trump has bragged about having. It doesn't matter what they're talking about; just listen. You'll find they present their thoughts in a coherent manner. Some examples of such extemporizing:


  • [*=2]Your pick of any Aspen Institute seminars
    [*=2]Baldwin-Buckley debate at Cambridge
    [*=2]Any former POTUS' or other heads of state's campaign rallies, news interviews, press conferences, etc.
    [*=2]Program guests remarking on "whatever" on the Sunday morning "talking heads" programs
    [*=2]CFR conference proceedings
    [*=2]Corporate presentations
    [*=2]Ted Talks
    [*=2]Davos sessions
    [*=2]Defense of a dissertation (I don't know if you'll find any on the Internet, but if you do....)

Say what you want, but I don't think it's asking too much that the POTUS be able to extemporize as well as a high school student.





Forth:​
When the fact of the matter is that one speaks only ineloquently as Trump, which indeed is about as well as a ten-year-old, there isn't really a materially lower level of articulation to which an adult can descend other than to "baby talk" or "pet talk." Now whatever that study claims, folks speaking in that mode isn't it because adults don't do that with other adults, not even when speaking to demented adults.​
 
"White Liberals Dumb Themselves Down When they Speak to Black People, a new Study Contends"

Well, one study contends this?

Must be true then.

:roll:
 
Why is anyone surprised at this? We white liberals all knew this and have been making fun of ourselves for doing it for decades:

++ 1950s-- Lenny Bruce did a bit about a liberal trying to put a black man at ease at a party: "That Joe Louis was a heck of a fighter."

++ 1960-70s, Woody Allen's cranky liberal uncle/grandfather when the topic of black crime comes up: "They have a *right* to steal!"

++ More recently, in the movie "Get Out," the liberal Bradley Whitford character makes sure the daughter's black boyfriend knows he voted for Obama.

And of course, we have Trump playfully spreading false information on black on white homicide and lying about crime trends. Which do you prefer?
 
This is entirely plausible.

I'd like some confirmation studies though.
 
My tongue is so far in my cheek, it is starting to hurt.

I cain't hardly be 'spected to know the difference. I'm jus' a dumb country hick. Hey, come over to my trailer sometime. I'll give you a piece of straw to put between your teeth, and we'll whittle or maybe snap some peas while we chew the fat.

Or we can discuss 17th and 18th-century British literature if you'd like. ;)
 
Sarah Palin dumbed herself down and talked very folksy to her base. I do the same when I am dealing with rural white people, or the Trump base. They use words like ain't a lot and don't believe in science. :lol:

Maybe you're just a disingenuous person?
 
I cain't hardly be 'spected to know the difference. I'm jus' a dumb country hick. Hey, come over to my trailer sometime. I'll give you a piece of straw to put between your teeth, and we'll whittle or maybe snap some peas while we chew the fat.

Or we can discuss 17th and 18th-century British literature if you'd like. ;)

I don't think talking down on people is necessarily a left/right trait. It all depends on the individual, their level of elitism, and how full of themselves they are. That's not just in re to literature, or else we would have to include the stereotypical assumption that all whites who live in trailers read nothing but library romance novels ...paperback.
IRL, perhaps it is one's first impression that leads others to make assumptions. I.e., when I go to a high end boutique in my comfy clothes, store clerks follow me more closely. When I pick up purchases later on a bit more 'dressed', they fall all over themselves. I sometimes do that on purpose, not often mind you, for high end boutiques aren't my thing, but simply because I like to observe people's behavior.
 
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