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At some point he'll have made enough money.

Vern said:
I know I shouldn't laugh but you've not backed up anything. "dems hate rich people" is just another lying conservative narrative you obediently believe. Of course the out of context sentence fragment you posted proves "continuous attacks" to you but it proves nothing to people who can think for themselves. You're simply desperate to accuse democrats of being hypocrites so you can justify not holding republicans accountable for their flamingly dishonest hypocrisy concerning debt and deficits, healthcare, presidents playing golf, executive orders, acting presidential, underming our allies and embolding our enemies etc.
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Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn. Do you always sing the same old songs, Vern? Let's dodge away from Obama's hypocrisy and spew out all the trite little clichés about the right. You need a new game plan.


Obama said that at some point people have made enough money. Throughout his term he harped on "billionaires and millionaires", he repeatedly said the rich weren't "paying their fair share" and, of course, never defined "fair" as anything other than "more". He promised his energy policies would cause energy prices to skyrocket - which of course hurts businesses.
 
Bullseye said:
Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn. Do you always sing the same old songs, Vern? Let's dodge away from Obama's hypocrisy and spew out all the trite little clichés about the right. You need a new game plan.
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I'm not accepting the premise that an out of context sentence fragment proves "continuous attacks on rich people" let alone "attack" in the first place. Maybe you should read the speech you're getting the out of context sentence fragment from instead reading conservative editorials telling you what to think.

And I have to chuckle that you think the asinine things a large percentage if not majority of conservative's believed is " trite little clichés". those "trite little clichés" prove your gullibility and obedience.

Obama said that at some point people have made enough money. Throughout his term he harped on "billionaires and millionaires", he repeatedly said the rich weren't "paying their fair share" and, of course, never defined "fair" as anything other than "more". He promised his energy policies would cause energy prices to skyrocket - which of course hurts businesses.
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er uh Bullseye, see how you strain to come up with "other attacks". You've based your entire premise on one out of context sentence fragment and cant come up with another example. Also I don't know which one is funnier, the hyperbole of "harped on "billionaires and millionaires" or trying to turn your vague hazy notion of the "energy prices skyrocket" narrative into an "attack on the rich". so just to be clear, I haven't seen you post one "attack" let alone "continuous attacks".
 
Vern said:
I'm not accepting the premise that an out of context sentence fragment proves "continuous attacks on rich people" let alone "attack" in the first place. Maybe you should read the speech you're getting the out of context sentence fragment from instead reading conservative editorials telling you what to think.

And I have to chuckle that you think the asinine things a large percentage if not majority of conservative's believed is " trite little clichés". those "trite little clichés" prove your gullibility and obedience.



er uh Bullseye, see how you strain to come up with "other attacks". You've based your entire premise on one out of context sentence fragment and cant come up with another example. Also I don't know which one is funnier, the hyperbole of "harped on "billionaires and millionaires" or trying to turn your vague hazy notion of the "energy prices skyrocket" narrative into an "attack on the rich". so just to be clear, I haven't seen you post one "attack" let alone "continuous attacks".
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That's Ok, Vern. I understand your undying devotion to your Dear Leader obfuscates all rational though whenever his godliness is questioned.


So, go ahead, have the last word in our conversation.
 
Funny how the Republican base only praises capitalism when it's Republicans getting rich. The elect a Billionaire who craps in gold plated toilets and they cheer. A Dem makes some money and it's terrible or they worked for the Nazis in WW II... lol
 
Tanngrisnir said:
He never made continuous attacks on the rich.

Why lie about that? What's the point.
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Obama raised taxes on the rich. Actually he allowed the Bush tax cuts to expire. From the perspective of some conservatives, that is an attack on the rich. The problem is that Republican policies since Reagan have resulted in more and more wealth concentrated in fewer, richer hands while the rest of us have less and less. So if we want to actually fund the government instead of borrowing from China, the rich have got to pony up because the rest of us are drying up.
 
Bullseye said:
That's Ok, Vern. I understand your undying devotion to your Dear Leader obfuscates all rational though whenever his godliness is questioned.
So, go ahead, have the last word in our conversation.
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Oh bullseye, this is a debate forum. Its not a preteen chatroom. You've simply not posted anything that is an "attack" on rich people let alone "continuous attack". Sentence fragments ("I do think at a certain point you've made enough money") hyperbole ( "harped on "billionaires and millionaires") and delusion (higher energy prices hurt business something something attack on the rich) do not prove your point of "attack" on rich people.

And of course you don't realize it but I'm not posting "nuh uh President Obama wouldn't do that". I'm questioning your "examples" to prove your point. You cant provide any real example so you have to whine about me. Your whiny childish response is just you looking for an excuse to cowardly cut and run from your own thread. Why is your narrative more important than your integrity?
 
All it took to get the right on Team Soak the Rich is realizing Obama is rich.
 
Barnacle said:
Well, Michelle alone will have a net worth of over $100 mil after her book tour, while her husband Obummer is dirt-poor - he has to use other people's money to feed the poor in his former hometown.
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I luv how the Right still clench there ass cheeks at a mere mention of Obama

Let us know when Rump finds Obamas BC.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
He never made continuous attacks on the rich.

Why lie about that? What's the point.
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Some lie even when there is no point other than to spew their hate, it is what haters do.
 
Barnacle said:
Well, Michelle alone will have a net worth of over $100 mil after her book tour, while her husband Obummer is dirt-poor - he has to use other people's money to feed the poor in his former hometown.
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:2razz:
 
iguanaman said:
Jealousy is so unappealing. I am happy for him. At least he didn't just inherit all his money like Trump.
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No jealousy involved. Just pointed out the hypocrisy of him criticizing others for maximizing their income yet showing so little restraint in controlling his own.
 
Bullseye said:
No jealousy involved. Just pointed out the hypocrisy of him criticizing others for maximizing their income yet showing so little restraint in controlling his own.
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Is it hyperbole?
 
Bullseye said:
Remember Obama's continuous attack on the rich? He, famously said "I do think at a certain point you've made enough money." So, I wonder when he and Michelle are going to reach that point. "

Typical progressive "rules for thee, but not for me" elitism.


Anyone wanna bet how many whataboutTrumps we'll hear?
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Obama is no longer president and neither is hillary. Are you guys on the right suggesting it's not ok for a democrat to make money?
 
I understand that former President Harry S Truman was in such financial straits that Congress finally decided to give (modest) pensions to our former presidents.

Ah, those were the days!
 
bongsaway said:
Obama is no longer president and neither is hillary. Are you guys on the right suggesting it's not ok for a democrat to make money?
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Nope, what is being questioned is the establishment of a maximum acceptable income and/or net worth and then imposing some new tax only upon that minority. I prefer using the reverse (inverse?) of that taxation method - establishing a minimum tax free income and/or net worth and then taxing any and all income and/or net worth above that level at a flat rate.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nope, what is being questioned is the establishment of a maximum acceptable income and/or net worth and then imposing some new tax only upon that minority. I prefer using the reverse (inverse?) of that taxation method - establishing a minimum tax free income and/or net worth and then taxing any and all income and/or net worth above that level at a flat rate.
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I've always believed in a straight consumption tax. Not applied to the necessities of life, such as basic food, basic clothing, etc..

That way the people who are using the most are paying the most. Seems reasonable to me.
 
JustHanging said:
I've always believed in a straight consumption tax. Not applied to the necessities of life, such as basic food, basic clothing, etc..

That way the people who are using the most are paying the most. Seems reasonable to me.
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Texas uses that system - a sales tax (with certain exemptions e.g. groceries and rent), a (real estate) property tax and no state income tax.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Texas uses that system - a sales tax (with certain exemptions e.g. groceries and rent), a (real estate) property tax and no state income tax.
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Thank you for the information. In your opinion, is it an effective and fair taxation system? If not, what are the problems.
 
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