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Mad Max(ine) strikes again. Violence is ok because we're going good work

ElChupacabra said:
Oh really?

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yes, liberalism is based in ignorance so liberals don't debate. if fact mostly they oppose free speech and try to shout conservatives down because they cant debate them. Tucker Carlson's house was one of 1000's of examples of liberalism.

Very easy to prove too, just ask a liberal to say something intelligent in defense of liberalism,
 
James972 said:
yes, liberalism is based in ignorance so liberals don't debate. if fact mostly they oppose free speech and try to shout conservatives down because they cant debate them. Tucker Carlson's house was one of 1000's of examples of liberalism.

Very easy to prove too, just ask a liberal to say something intelligent in defense of liberalism,
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The unfortunate part of your statement is you don't apply the same standards to your posts. I don't recall one post of yours where you actually debated anything or presented a proper argument.

The James972 School of Debate:

1. Make a statement.

2. When faced with opposing view, label the opponent a "liberal" (doesn't matter if they are or not).

3. If presented with facts, make reference to your high IQ and how others cannot understand what you're saying.

4. If opponent continues debating and presenting more information to back their claim, simply state "liberalism is based on ignorance"; this deflects from your own ignorance. Make sure to add "do you understand?" because condescension can put some people off.

5. Add some math at the end of your statement to appear smart: "1+1=2"
 
Bullseye said:
Yeah, doing it once comprises a norm. :roll:
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It's interesting you don't see the implications of that precedent. A politician disrespects the office of the presidency by calling the man a "liar" while in the middle of his speech, and then the tone set by the conservative media delegitimizing him. So here we are years later and conservatives complain about something similar occurring to someone they support. It seems you only find the offenses that bother you but ignore the bigger picture.
 
ElChupacabra said:
It's interesting you don't see the implications of that precedent. A politician disrespects the office of the presidency by calling the man a "liar" while in the middle of his speech, and then the tone set by the conservative media delegitimizing him. So here we are years later and conservatives complain about something similar occurring to someone they support. It seems you only find the offenses that bother you but ignore the bigger picture.
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Politicians have been calling each other liars for centuries. You have a very creative imagination, by the way.
 
Bullseye said:
Politicians have been calling each other liars for centuries. You have a very creative imagination, by the way.
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No, you just don't connect the bigger dots. All of the tribalism we're experiencing and lack of decorum has started from the top and worked its way down for years now. If you think this is fine, that's your opinion; but any argument you make regarding lack of civility or the media being mean loses any validity. If leaders set a tone, people will follow.
 
ElChupacabra said:
It's interesting you don't see the implications of that precedent. A politician disrespects the office of the presidency
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It was one politician and he apologized. Maxine, Antifa, and Marxist anti free speech brown shirts continuously disrespect all of mainstream America and have
intention of stopping. Night and day, obviously.
 
Is it a coincidence that this uproar over congresswoman Maxine waters has something to do with the fact that she will become the chairperson of the financial services committee in congress.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Is it a coincidence that this uproar over congresswoman Maxine waters has something to do with the fact that she will become the chairperson of the financial services committee in congress.
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nothing wrong with having a perfect idiot liberal in charge:

Maxine Waters:

“Guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal would be about socializing … uh, umm. … Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.”

“We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.”
 
Bullseye said:
Waters says that much before breakfast. Every day :roll:
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And, more importantly, our Founders and Trump were/are violent on behalf of America while Waters/Sanders are anti American socialists violently in opposition to America!
 
Bullseye said:
Waters says that much before breakfast. Every day :roll:
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I mean, she has never offered to pay legal fees or tell people to punch folk. But the point is you said Trump doesn't tell his supporter to confront and harass. But that was a lie. Regardless of what you believe Waters says, Trump most certainly does say to confront and commit violence.
 
Ikari said:
I mean, she has never offered to pay legal fees or tell people to punch folk. But the point is you said Trump doesn't tell his supporter to confront and harass. But that was a lie. Regardless of what you believe Waters says, Trump most certainly does say to confront and commit violence.
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It's not the same at all, Trump's isolated and unique one man call to violence was tiny and situational whereas liberals in general are naturally violent- Antifa, black lives matter, shouting down speakers, safe space/micro aggression movement, etc. And it stands to reason too since liberalism is based ignorance and cant win in a non violent democracy.
 
James972 said:
It's not the same at all, Trump's isolated and unique one man call to violence was tiny and situational whereas liberals in general are naturally violent- Antifa, black lives matter, shouting down speakers, safe space/micro aggression movement, etc. And it stands to reason too since liberalism is based ignorance and cant win in a non violent democracy.
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The claim was Trump never tells his supporters to confront and harass. That's a lie. You can try to deflect all you want, it's one of the 3 D's of Trumpeteering. But you cannot make it any less a lie. Trump promotes violence, actual violence, more than Maxine ever has.

And as for the "left" being naturally violent. Well they haven't tried MAGABombing or shooting up synagogues or running over protesters with cars. So it would see that violence isn't constrained to just one side.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Is it a coincidence that this uproar over congresswoman Maxine waters has something to do with the fact that she will become the chairperson of the financial services committee in congress.
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I really don't think so. Crazy Maxie's unhinged calls for mobs have been going on every since Trump won. It's scary as hell that someone so bat guano crazy can be chair of anything, but it's not a reason for the rightful calls for her to knock it the hell off, grow up and stop inciting violence.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I don’t have a problem with her OR Trump encouraging people to protest. That is the American way. But harassing politicians and their families in places like restaurants is obnoxious, counter productive, and not ok.
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Agreed. It's not ok. It shouldn't be done or encouraged.


But... it's not assault and it's not a call to violence. We can't even begin to honestly discuss what she said and the rightness or wrongness of it til a large majority of Trump supporters pull their heads out their asses and recognize that at no point did she advocate actual assault or violence. Nor has she ever claimed that she wants violence, wishes their could be violence, offered to pay the legal bills for anyone who would commit violent acts etc. I'm honestly at a loss on how to debate a topic like this when people can't even agree that loud protests is not the same as an assault.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Agreed. It's not ok. It shouldn't be done or encouraged.


But... it's not assault and it's not a call to violence. We can't even begin to honestly discuss what she said and the rightness or wrongness of it til a large majority of Trump supporters pull their heads out their asses and recognize that at no point did she advocate actual assault or violence. Nor has she ever claimed that she wants violence, wishes their could be violence, offered to pay the legal bills for anyone who would commit violent acts etc. I'm honestly at a loss on how to debate a topic like this when people can't even agree that loud protests is not the same as an assault.
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Mad Maxie knows she can't outright call for violence, but she also knows how to put her toes right up to the line. All she need do is lead the mobs in the right direction, get them all wound up, loaded for bear and let them do their thing.
That does not make the incidents which you bring up about Trump right, but please, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Enough with the gaslighting. Our lying eyes ain't lying.
This is common sense stuff.

Mad Maxie is indeed inciting mobs to violence. All one need do is look at "Smash Racism D.C." to see the fruits of her work.

If you believe her wide-eyed "Aw gee shucks it wadn't me" schtick, you have quaffed the Kool Aid.
 
Ikari said:
I mean, she has never offered to pay legal fees or tell people to punch folk. But the point is you said Trump doesn't tell his supporter to confront and harass. But that was a lie. Regardless of what you believe Waters says, Trump most certainly does say to confront and commit violence.
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And your basing all this on a CARTOON! :shock:
 
Bullseye said:
And your basing all this on a CARTOON! :shock:
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Those are quotes from Trump. I'm basing it off of Trump quotes.

lol

Deflect, deflect, deflect.
 
Ikari said:
Those are quotes from Trump. I'm basing it off of Trump quotes.

lol

Deflect, deflect, deflect.
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Blather, slobber, hyperventilate.
 
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