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How the left controls the narrative through identity politics.

Fishking

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I have to say, it's a brilliant strategy but it's just so lacking any anything related to ethics or integrity.

Part I:

So the left has grown a form of identity politics, supported in large part by academia, especially in sociology departments. I have to say, they've been very successful in shutting down people from speaking on various issues by breaking down everyone into groups and only chosen people from that specific group has any authority to speak about it.

So if the subject is about sexual assault, then men need to sit down and shut up. Now, they are allowed to speak so long as it's in full agreement with their narrative and in a more subservient manner. The same holds true for things related to racism, if you are white you cannot talk about it unless you say exactly what they want you to say.

I don't think most reasonable people have not felt the effects of this. I'm sure plenty of times we've wanted to speak out in disagreement, but think it's not really worth the attacks that we know will come, so we stay silent.

I can, in some small degree, understand this part of control over the narrative, it's the second part where it gets really nasty and utterly dishonest.

Part II:

Now we all know that it's impossible to get 100% of agreement on things from any group they want to break us down into. So what happens is you have women who disagree with their narrative an minorities that disagree with their narrative.

What happens to them? Well, we saw a great example of it with Kanye. He had his position invalidated due to having had mental issues in the past, so he's just "in a low place now". This is what the left has called ableism and they use it. They say, "This is what happens when negroes don't read." blatantly both using a term that is known to be derrogatory towards blacks in modern discourse and calling him dumb or uneducated. You could never say this about a black man that is still marching to the left's tune withouth being called a racist. He's called a house negro and, ultimately, his heritage and blackness is stripped from him. Now that that has happened, BINGO! No one can talk about the subject they are discussing because a white person can't do it and Kanye is "no longer black".

The same thing happens to women who disagree with the narrative of the left. They just strip them of their woman status, or w/e status it happens to be (e.g. gay) and now the only people that are left are those outside the group. And who is that? DING DING DING...white men, and we all know that they can't talk about anything.

It utterly disgusting and I don't know how so many have been fooled by this.
 
Fishking said:
I have to say, it's a brilliant strategy but it's just so lacking any anything related to ethics or integrity.

Part I:

So the left has grown a form of identity politics, supported in large part by academia, especially in sociology departments. I have to say, they've been very successful in shutting down people from speaking on various issues by breaking down everyone into groups and only chosen people from that specific group has any authority to speak about it.

So if the subject is about sexual assault, then men need to sit down and shut up. Now, they are allowed to speak so long as it's in full agreement with their narrative and in a more subservient manner. The same holds true for things related to racism, if you are white you cannot talk about it unless you say exactly what they want you to say.

I don't think most reasonable people have not felt the effects of this. I'm sure plenty of times we've wanted to speak out in disagreement, but think it's not really worth the attacks that we know will come, so we stay silent.

I can, in some small degree, understand this part of control over the narrative, it's the second part where it gets really nasty and utterly dishonest.

Part II:

Now we all know that it's impossible to get 100% of agreement on things from any group they want to break us down into. So what happens is you have women who disagree with their narrative an minorities that disagree with their narrative.

What happens to them? Well, we saw a great example of it with Kanye. He had his position invalidated due to having had mental issues in the past, so he's just "in a low place now". This is what the left has called ableism and they use it. They say, "This is what happens when negroes don't read." blatantly both using a term that is known to be derrogatory towards blacks in modern discourse and calling him dumb or uneducated. You could never say this about a black man that is still marching to the left's tune withouth being called a racist. He's called a house negro and, ultimately, his heritage and blackness is stripped from him. Now that that has happened, BINGO! No one can talk about the subject they are discussing because a white person can't do it and Kanye is "no longer black".

The same thing happens to women who disagree with the narrative of the left. They just strip them of their woman status, or w/e status it happens to be (e.g. gay) and now the only people that are left are those outside the group. And who is that? DING DING DING...white men, and we all know that they can't talk about anything.

It utterly disgusting and I don't know how so many have been fooled by this.
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Gawd. No wonder you're called the right whinge. What a bunch of whiny victims.
 
The real victims are white men who can't say what they really think about sexual assault and racism.
 
Greenbeard said:
The real victims are white men who can't say what they really think about sexual assault and racism.
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Another intellectually devoid post. Two in a row now. Of course, you also don't care that any woman or minority is attacked on the national level and from mainstream sources in racist and sexist ways. They are just casualties of the cause, right comrade?
 
Fishking said:
I have to say, it's a brilliant strategy but it's just so lacking any anything related to ethics or integrity.

Part I:

So the left has grown a form of identity politics, supported in large part by academia, especially in sociology departments. I have to say, they've been very successful in shutting down people from speaking on various issues by breaking down everyone into groups and only chosen people from that specific group has any authority to speak about it.

So if the subject is about sexual assault, then men need to sit down and shut up. Now, they are allowed to speak so long as it's in full agreement with their narrative and in a more subservient manner. The same holds true for things related to racism, if you are white you cannot talk about it unless you say exactly what they want you to say.

I don't think most reasonable people have not felt the effects of this. I'm sure plenty of times we've wanted to speak out in disagreement, but think it's not really worth the attacks that we know will come, so we stay silent.

I can, in some small degree, understand this part of control over the narrative, it's the second part where it gets really nasty and utterly dishonest.

Part II:

Now we all know that it's impossible to get 100% of agreement on things from any group they want to break us down into. So what happens is you have women who disagree with their narrative an minorities that disagree with their narrative.

What happens to them? Well, we saw a great example of it with Kanye. He had his position invalidated due to having had mental issues in the past, so he's just "in a low place now". This is what the left has called ableism and they use it. They say, "This is what happens when negroes don't read." blatantly both using a term that is known to be derrogatory towards blacks in modern discourse and calling him dumb or uneducated. You could never say this about a black man that is still marching to the left's tune withouth being called a racist. He's called a house negro and, ultimately, his heritage and blackness is stripped from him. Now that that has happened, BINGO! No one can talk about the subject they are discussing because a white person can't do it and Kanye is "no longer black".

The same thing happens to women who disagree with the narrative of the left. They just strip them of their woman status, or w/e status it happens to be (e.g. gay) and now the only people that are left are those outside the group. And who is that? DING DING DING...white men, and we all know that they can't talk about anything.

It utterly disgusting and I don't know how so many have been fooled by this.
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I haven't.
 
Fishking said:
I have to say, it's a brilliant strategy but it's just so lacking any anything related to ethics or integrity.

Part I:

So the left has grown a form of identity politics, supported in large part by academia, especially in sociology departments. I have to say, they've been very successful in shutting down people from speaking on various issues by breaking down everyone into groups and only chosen people from that specific group has any authority to speak about it.

So if the subject is about sexual assault, then men need to sit down and shut up. Now, they are allowed to speak so long as it's in full agreement with their narrative and in a more subservient manner. The same holds true for things related to racism, if you are white you cannot talk about it unless you say exactly what they want you to say.

I don't think most reasonable people have not felt the effects of this. I'm sure plenty of times we've wanted to speak out in disagreement, but think it's not really worth the attacks that we know will come, so we stay silent.

I can, in some small degree, understand this part of control over the narrative, it's the second part where it gets really nasty and utterly dishonest.

Part II:

Now we all know that it's impossible to get 100% of agreement on things from any group they want to break us down into. So what happens is you have women who disagree with their narrative an minorities that disagree with their narrative.

What happens to them? Well, we saw a great example of it with Kanye. He had his position invalidated due to having had mental issues in the past, so he's just "in a low place now". This is what the left has called ableism and they use it. They say, "This is what happens when negroes don't read." blatantly both using a term that is known to be derrogatory towards blacks in modern discourse and calling him dumb or uneducated. You could never say this about a black man that is still marching to the left's tune withouth being called a racist. He's called a house negro and, ultimately, his heritage and blackness is stripped from him. Now that that has happened, BINGO! No one can talk about the subject they are discussing because a white person can't do it and Kanye is "no longer black".

The same thing happens to women who disagree with the narrative of the left. They just strip them of their woman status, or w/e status it happens to be (e.g. gay) and now the only people that are left are those outside the group. And who is that? DING DING DING...white men, and we all know that they can't talk about anything.

It utterly disgusting and I don't know how so many have been fooled by this.
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I dunno bud, sure seems like Conservatives have some skin in the identity politics game.

cpwill said:
Does being 1/512th - 1/1024th minority make one a "Person of Color?
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CMPancake said:
I dunno bud, sure seems like Conservatives have some skin in the identity politics game.
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Since I am asking a question regarding percentages? :roll:

Did you vote in the poll?

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Fishking said:
I have to say, it's a brilliant strategy but it's just so lacking any anything related to ethics or integrity.

Part I:

So the left has grown a form of identity politics, supported in large part by academia, especially in sociology departments. I have to say, they've been very successful in shutting down people from speaking on various issues by breaking down everyone into groups and only chosen people from that specific group has any authority to speak about it.

So if the subject is about sexual assault, then men need to sit down and shut up. Now, they are allowed to speak so long as it's in full agreement with their narrative and in a more subservient manner. The same holds true for things related to racism, if you are white you cannot talk about it unless you say exactly what they want you to say.

I don't think most reasonable people have not felt the effects of this. I'm sure plenty of times we've wanted to speak out in disagreement, but think it's not really worth the attacks that we know will come, so we stay silent.

I can, in some small degree, understand this part of control over the narrative, it's the second part where it gets really nasty and utterly dishonest.

Part II:

Now we all know that it's impossible to get 100% of agreement on things from any group they want to break us down into. So what happens is you have women who disagree with their narrative an minorities that disagree with their narrative.

What happens to them? Well, we saw a great example of it with Kanye. He had his position invalidated due to having had mental issues in the past, so he's just "in a low place now". This is what the left has called ableism and they use it. They say, "This is what happens when negroes don't read." blatantly both using a term that is known to be derrogatory towards blacks in modern discourse and calling him dumb or uneducated. You could never say this about a black man that is still marching to the left's tune withouth being called a racist. He's called a house negro and, ultimately, his heritage and blackness is stripped from him. Now that that has happened, BINGO! No one can talk about the subject they are discussing because a white person can't do it and Kanye is "no longer black".

The same thing happens to women who disagree with the narrative of the left. They just strip them of their woman status, or w/e status it happens to be (e.g. gay) and now the only people that are left are those outside the group. And who is that? DING DING DING...white men, and we all know that they can't talk about anything.

It utterly disgusting and I don't know how so many have been fooled by this.
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THe Left decided long ago that there is a lot of power in being the one who decides how things are talked about (and in fact what can be talked about), and they decided that they had no moral problems practicing this tyranny if the rest of us were going to be dumb enough to let them decide for us.
 
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my goodness all the left has is creating victimhood within groups of people for political gain. This isn't anything new in fact I think a good number off people have found them out and that may be quite evident in this midterm election. G-d I hope so.
 
CMPancake said:
I dunno bud, sure seems like Conservatives have some skin in the identity politics game.
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Pointing out that someone who has claimed to be Cherokee that isn't Cherokee or even Native American to by any reasonable person's standard is playing identity politics?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Isn't that what Fox News is for?
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This isn't about Fox News and I guess you're also one who doesn't mind sexism and racism being openly employed in the mainstream left against women and minorities that don't toe the line. Good to know.
 
Fishking said:
Pointing out that someone who has claimed to be Cherokee that isn't Cherokee or even Native American to by any reasonable person's standard is playing identity politics?
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I thought you guys didn't care about lies. Considering who you support.
 
Fishking said:
This isn't about Fox News and I guess you're also one who doesn't mind sexism and racism being openly employed in the mainstream left against women and minorities that don't toe the line. Good to know.
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90% of Fox News programming is identity politics about how evil leftists and the media is. So....
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
I thought you guys didn't care about lies. Considering who you support.
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No one says they don't care about lies and Trump isn't the topic of this thread. I know, I know....judging by my social media and the news reporting, there is no subject in the world that is not related to Trump but that's just not reality.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
90% of Fox News programming is identity politics about how evil leftists and the media is. So....
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That's not what identity politics is. It's about splitting people up into various classes of "under-privileged" groups in an oppression Olympics. This is done through religion (but not Christian), race (but not white), sex (but not men), sexual orientation (but not straight people), ect. ect. ect.

Conservative or Liberal is not on the identity politics matrix.

Basically, think about everyone who the term "diversity" doesn't apply to and you'll get it.
 
Fishking said:
That's not what identity politics is. It's about splitting people up into various classes of "under-privileged" groups in an oppression Olympics. This is done through religion (but not Christian), race (but not white), sex (but not men), sexual orientation (but not straight people), ect. ect. ect.

Conservative or Liberal is not on the identity politics matrix.

Basically, think about everyone who the term "diversity" doesn't apply to and you'll get it.
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You basically just did that to yourself. Oh woe is me. Too much diversity. You blame diversity for all your problems and claimed the rich white men are being oppressed. Seems like I get what you are doing perfectly.


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Let's just stop the crap and admit that Democrats have been using identity politics for decades by making certain groups of people convincing them they are all victims for political power. For the love of all that is real lets just stop pretending that this is some new tactic. This is who the Democrats are and have been for decades. One thing Democrats are good at is selling victimhood. But people across this country have figured out that being a victor is far more better than identifying as a victim.


Liberty/freedom produces victors.
 
Fishking said:
That's not what identity politics is. It's about splitting people up into various classes of "under-privileged" groups in an oppression Olympics. This is done through religion (but not Christian), race (but not white), sex (but not men), sexual orientation (but not straight people), ect. ect. ect.

Conservative or Liberal is not on the identity politics matrix.

Basically, think about everyone who the term "diversity" doesn't apply to and you'll get it.
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Diversity again. That's a code word. A conservative can see a black customs agent who's umpteen-generation American talking to a white Czech immigrant and think the black guy represents diversity.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
You basically just did that to yourself. Oh woe is me. Too much diversity. You blame diversity for all your problems and claimed the rich white men are being oppressed. Seems like I get what you are doing perfectly.


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Nope...that's not what I did. All I did was explain it to you. The levels of diversity that is exist is really irrelevant to me, unless you're forcing it just for diversity's sake and not letting it happen organically. The former is discrimination and the latter is egalitarian.
 
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