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McConnell blames GOP control of government for debt

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Basically, now that the GOP has all the power, they are afraid to do anything with it but cut taxes because they believe they will face a political backlash as a result. I have plenty of reasons to dislike Democrats, but at least they had the balls to govern and make some tough and unpopular political choices. I hope the GOP keeps control of the whole government, so that they and the Trump supporters have nobody to blame but themselves when the economy turns.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...ames-entitlements-not-gop-for-rising-deficits

McConnell said it would be “very difficult to do entitlement reform, and we’re talking about Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid,” with one party in charge of Congress and the White House.

“I think it’s pretty safe to say that entitlement changes, which is the real driver of the debt by any objective standard, may well be difficult if not impossible to achieve when you have unified government,” McConnell said.
 
Basically, now that the GOP has all the power, they are afraid to do anything with it but cut taxes because they believe they will face a political backlash as a result. I have plenty of reasons to dislike Democrats, but at least they had the balls to govern and make some tough and unpopular political choices. I hope the GOP keeps control of the whole government, so that they and the Trump supporters have nobody to blame but themselves when the economy turns.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...ames-entitlements-not-gop-for-rising-deficits

The refusal to address entitlements was and remains one of my (many) major fiscal criticisms of Trump.


But pretending that Democrats have the guts to take on that issue is laughable. :)
 
The refusal to address entitlements was and remains one of my (many) major fiscal criticisms of Trump.


But pretending that Democrats have the guts to take on that issue is laughable. :)

Lol. So no matter who leads, the results are the same. Spend, cut taxes, borrow, print money, and wait for the bottom to fall out so you can blame the other team. Not a good damn adult in the room.

You can't blame them. We now reward not compromising at the ballot box. We want poilticians who are fiercely partisan to lead us. Lead us to bankruptcy and Oblivion.
 
Lol. So no matter who leads, the results are the same.

:shrug: As I understand McConnel's argument, it's that you need bi-partisan agreement on big things like changing the entitlements (the Democrat refusal to seek this, I think, was a big part of the backlash that ensued). I hope Democrats prove willing to actually address this threat* to our country.

But, given that they seem unable to avoid trying to seek temporary political advantage by trying to demonize reform efforts and maligning the motives of those who seek to save these programs, I am not optimistic.



*Per SECDEF, the single greatest threat to our national security.



You can't blame them. We now reward not compromising at the ballot box. We want poilticians who are fiercely partisan to lead us. Lead us to bankruptcy and Oblivion

That is certainly true. The American people do not seem to want to be adults, and trying to make them is suicidally unpopular for politicians not skilled enough to actually lead.
 
:shrug: As I understand McConnel's argument, it's that you need bi-partisan agreement on big things like changing the entitlements (the Democrat refusal to seek this, I think, was a big part of the backlash that ensued). I hope Democrats prove willing to actually address this threat* to our country.

But, given that they seem unable to avoid trying to seek temporary political advantage by trying to demonize reform efforts and maligning the motives of those who seek to save these programs, I am not optimistic.



*Per SECDEF, the single greatest threat to our national security.





That is certainly true. The American people do not seem to want to be adults, and trying to make them is suicidally unpopular for politicians not skilled enough to actually lead.

So basically McConnell is angry at Democrats for doing with entitlement reform exactly what Republicans did with Obamacare when Democrats were in power.

Watching Lindsey Graham decend fully into Trump rage mode and seeing how he is being rewarded for it with a newfound celebrity status has confirmed to me that our country has lost its collective mind and politics have been reduced to scripted reality television.
 
But pretending that Democrats have the guts to take on that issue is laughable. :)

They did, eight years ago. In 2010 the GOP built their electoral strategy around trashing those Medicare reforms ("Ads Use Medicare Cuts as Rallying Point") and they ended up winning big, in no small part because the old folks turned out in droves and the GOP won them by 21 points ("Greedy Geezers?).

And yet the reforms went on to be implemented by the Obama administration.

Medicare’s cost surprise: It’s going down
One of the best-kept secrets in American health care might be that Medicare spending — in important ways — is going down. . .

But there’s a sliver of hope buried in federal data: During the Obama era, Medicare’s per-person spending barely budged, inching up only about 1 percent per year. That’s less than the rate of inflation, meaning that per-person Medicare costs, when adjusted for inflation, have been going down.

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So basically McConnell is angry at Democrats for doing with entitlement reform exactly what Republicans did with Obamacare when Democrats were in power.

Watching Lindsey Graham decend fully into Trump rage mode and seeing how he is being rewarded for it with a newfound celebrity status has confirmed to me that our country has lost its collective mind and politics have been reduced to scripted reality television.
Dude, it took you this long to come to that conclusion?

Get ready for President Kardashian; politics is downstream from culture, and it's gonna be nothing but President Herbert DeLorenzo Mountain Dew Commancho for a while.

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Basically, now that the GOP has all the power, they are afraid to do anything with it but cut taxes because they believe they will face a political backlash as a result. I have plenty of reasons to dislike Democrats, but at least they had the balls to govern and make some tough and unpopular political choices. I hope the GOP keeps control of the whole government, so that they and the Trump supporters have nobody to blame but themselves when the economy turns.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...ames-entitlements-not-gop-for-rising-deficits

That has never been how it works.
 
Well yeah, there could be one Democrat left in the whole damn government and it would still somehow be their fault.

There could be no Democrats left and it would still be their fault. If you have an entire media organization at your disposal you can say anything you want.

Besides, we've already been through this. When Republicans were in control of all of government under George W. Bush, was anything the fault of Republicans?
 
:shrug: As I understand McConnel's argument, it's that you need bi-partisan agreement on big things like changing the entitlements (the Democrat refusal to seek this, I think, was a big part of the backlash that ensued). I hope Democrats prove willing to actually address this threat* to our country.

But, given that they seem unable to avoid trying to seek temporary political advantage by trying to demonize reform efforts and maligning the motives of those who seek to save these programs, I am not optimistic.



*Per SECDEF, the single greatest threat to our national security.





That is certainly true. The American people do not seem to want to be adults, and trying to make them is suicidally unpopular for politicians not skilled enough to actually lead.

So let's see - McConnell, Trump and the cronies passed Tax benefits for 1%ers, who reaped over 80% of the benefit; in a total Party-line vote. But now they want the help of Democrats to take money away from the poor and middle class, who paid into these programs throughout their working lives.

I seem to recall Warren Buffett stating that he pays a lesser percentage in taxes than his secretary.
 
So let's see - McConnell, Trump and the cronies passed Tax benefits for 1%ers, who reaped over 80% of the benefit; in a total Party-line vote. But now they want the help of Democrats to take money away from the poor and middle class, who paid into these programs throughout their working lives.

I seem to recall Warren Buffett stating that he pays a lesser percentage in taxes than his secretary.

I don't think you're going to make much progress arguing that changes to marginal tax rates for income represent changing part of our governing structure or contact the way that dramatically reorganizing (say) Social Security would be, especially if you are unable to be honest about those you disagree with.

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I don't think you're going to make much progress arguing that changes to marginal tax rates for income represent changing part of our governing structure or contact the way that dramatically reorganizing (say) Social Security would be, especially if you are unable to be honest about those you disagree with.

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Well, I certainly don't disagree with Warren Buffett. Do you?
 
:shrug: As I understand McConnel's argument, it's that you need bi-partisan agreement on big things like changing the entitlements (the Democrat refusal to seek this, I think, was a big part of the backlash that ensued). I hope Democrats prove willing to actually address this threat* to our country.

But, given that they seem unable to avoid trying to seek temporary political advantage by trying to demonize reform efforts and maligning the motives of those who seek to save these programs, I am not optimistic.



*Per SECDEF, the single greatest threat to our national security.





That is certainly true. The American people do not seem to want to be adults, and trying to make them is suicidally unpopular for politicians not skilled enough to actually lead.

Maybe they should have tried to balance their tax cuts with spending cuts, when they actually passed the tax cuts
 
So basically McConnell is angry at Democrats for doing with entitlement reform exactly what Republicans did with Obamacare when Democrats were in power.

Watching Lindsey Graham decend fully into Trump rage mode and seeing how he is being rewarded for it with a newfound celebrity status has confirmed to me that our country has lost its collective mind and politics have been reduced to scripted reality television.

I agree. I am totally disgusted. Trump is the president, and instead of him actually leading on saving Medicare, he is too busy calling Warren Pocahontas and tweeting how big his nukes are.

All the GOP wants to do is cut Medicare. I don't see it being popular. They just want the dems on board so they can skirt the possible fallout
 
:shrug: As I understand McConnel's argument, it's that you need bi-partisan agreement on big things like changing the entitlements (the Democrat refusal to seek this, I think, was a big part of the backlash that ensued). I hope Democrats prove willing to actually address this threat* to our country.

But, given that they seem unable to avoid trying to seek temporary political advantage by trying to demonize reform efforts and maligning the motives of those who seek to save these programs, I am not optimistic.



*Per SECDEF, the single greatest threat to our national security.





That is certainly true. The American people do not seem to want to be adults, and trying to make them is suicidally unpopular for politicians not skilled enough to actually lead.

Compromise works both ways. I believe we will see a more conciliatory Trump when the Dems take over the House. So far the great deal maker has been all hot air.
 
Maybe they should have tried to balance their tax cuts with spending cuts, when they actually passed the tax cuts

Yes, but what they don't tell you, is that Republicans intentionally drive up the deficit. It's been going on, since Reagan. It's all about looking like the GOOD GUY, when they give away tax cuts. Every Republican President has increased deficit spending.
 
Yes, but what they don't tell you, is that Republicans intentionally drive up the deficit. It's been going on, since Reagan. It's all about looking like the GOOD GUY, when they give away tax cuts. Every Republican President has increased deficit spending.

Yes, then they use the high deficits to try to justify unpopular entitlement cuts. If they don't get the deficit spending under control, entitlements can bankrupt and the economy could bottom out. Cutting SSN and Medicare is not saving it IMO. They will keep running up the deficit and proposing to cut those programs
 
Yes, Mitch McConnell blaming Democrats for the deficit and debt is hypocrisy. However, it is nothing like the hypocrisy of Trump claiming in a Tweet that he and Republicans defend pre-existing conditions coverage and "Democrats will destroy your Medicare" -- all while Republicans openly talk about scaling back Medicare and the administration sought to gut two core provisions of the Affordable Care Act that guarantee protections for those with pre-existing conditions.
 
Yes, Mitch McConnell blaming Democrats for the deficit and debt is hypocrisy. However, it is nothing like the hypocrisy of Trump claiming in a Tweet that he and Republicans defend pre-existing conditions coverage and "Democrats will destroy your Medicare" -- all while Republicans openly talk about scaling back Medicare and the administration sought to gut two core provisions of the Affordable Care Act that guarantee protections for those with pre-existing conditions.

Trump lying? No, that never happens:roll:
 
Paul Krugman nails it again in today's column:

The Trump Tax Scam, Phase II

When the Trump tax cut was on the verge of being enacted, I called it “the biggest tax scam in history,” and made a prediction: deficits would soar, and when they did, Republicans would once again pretend to care about debt and demand cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
Sure enough, the deficit is soaring. And this week Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, after declaring the surge in red ink “very disturbing,” called for, you guessed it, cuts in “Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid.” He also suggested that Republicans might repeal the Affordable Care Act — taking away health care from tens of millions — if they do well in the midterm elections.
Any political analyst who didn’t see this coming should find a different profession. After all, “starve the beast” — cut taxes on the rich, then use the resulting deficits as an excuse to hack away at the safety net — has been G.O.P. strategy for decades.
Oh, and anyone asking why Republicans believed claims that the tax cut would pay for itself is being naïve. Whatever they may have said, they never actually believed that the tax cut would be deficit-neutral; they pushed for a tax cut because it was what wealthy donors wanted, and because their posturing as deficit hawks was always fraudulent. They didn’t really buy into economic nonsense; it would be more accurate to say that economic nonsense bought them.
Then, there's the lying, dishonesty, and double talk...
What do I mean by double talk? Well, consider the fact that even as McConnell blames “entitlements” (that is, Medicare and Social Security) for deficits, and declares (falsely) that Medicare in particular is “unsustainable,” Paul Ryan’s super PAC has been running ads accusing Democrats of wanting to cut Medicare. The cynicism is breathtaking.
Then. he goes on about how Republicans running for re-election are lying about how they want to protect people with pre-existing conditions, when they are voting for repeal of the ACA that protects people with pre-existing conditions and then join lawsuits, that if successful, would end that protection.
 
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The GOP has no excuse for anything that goes sideways. That’s the responsibility that goes with having both Congress and the WH.
 
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