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Ship Of Fools #1 NYT's Best Seller List

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https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1050149791391502337

Tucker Carlson man, what can I say.....long long ago back when I used to watch TV, in fact I was long a cable news junkie, I sorta liked him.....he tended to make sense more than a lot of the other people yakking.....but who ever thought that he would be at the forefront of a Rebellion!

Not me, that is for sure.

I read the intro and skimmed the rest as I sat at Barns and Noble up at Pacific Place in Seattle. The intro was great but then it seemed to get weaker, like he ran out of time to do it right. Still it was great because he is almost completely right and it was a fun fast read. I read nothing that I disagreed with, though he could have prioritized things better...and like I said I got the idea that he could have worked harder.

$26 or $28 or whatever it is full price is not OK though, I mean this is a part of an afternoon read, basically an essay, it could be more accessible.

This bodes well for the Rebellion this election, I am not assuming a massive Blue Wave.


PS: I LOVE how this guy can have fun......needs to have his fun!........Like me and Trump.

Watch his little clip at the link for a treat.
 
“The Rebellion” :lamo
 
I really liked the bow tie, it was distinctive!

Has anyone read this book? It is #1 on the NYT's Best Seller List so presumably someone has...I am looking for reviews. I only skimmed it, I was not going to pay $30 after tax for this book. I did note when I did this last week that this book was hard to find at the Pacific Place store....they have all of the best sellers and other stuff they think might be especially interesting on tables and racks near the middle of the store, I knew that this one should be there but I could not find it..I had to ask. Turned out that they had it in a rack kind of set aside, and at the very bottom....Figuring I guess that Lefty Seattleites would not be that interested. They had several conservative books more prominently displayed.
 
I didn't like Tucker ~15 years ago back when Jon Stewart came on Crossfire and begged him to stop hurting America with the polarizing nature of his show.

Lately, I respect him more. Not sure I'll buy his book, but if its on Audible I'll give it a listen to next road trip.
 
Has anyone else actually read this book? I've been planning on reading a book or two by a conservative since I've been on a tear lately. But this one quite frankly seemed like it would be more of an Ann Coulterish type book. Lots of name calling, lots of attacks, lots of way overly broad generalizations and not much else. If a few others actually recommend it's going on the reading list. But I'd be very very surprised if there's anything thoughtful in the book.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Has anyone else actually read this book? I've been planning on reading a book or two by a conservative since I've been on a tear lately. But this one quite frankly seemed like it would be more of an Ann Coulterish type book. Lots of name calling, lots of attacks, lots of way overly broad generalizations and not much else. If a few others actually recommend it's going on the reading list. But I'd be very very surprised if there's anything thoughtful in the book.
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He makes an argument, a thoughtful one, in my opinion a right one.

Overall, Ships of Fools is a targeted snipe at the Democrats and Republicans and their elite enablers. Carlson despises the fact that, until the rise of Donald Trump, both parties agreed with each other. Both support the endless deployment of U.S. troops abroad and both support globalized financial capitalism that has utterly destroyed the Midwest and America’s manufacturing base.

Even worse, the collusion between Democrats and Republicans has bred a type of arrogant elitist who is insulated from all mistakes. Characteristic of this new elite class are people like Max Boot, the war hawk who constantly eggs on American invasions; William Kristol, the self-proclaimed guardian of the Republican Party who will never refuse his guilt for the Iraq War debacle; Maxine Waters, the notoriously corrupt race baiter who lives in a posh all-white neighborhood; Mark Zuckerberg, a child of privilege who uses the power of his monopoly to suppress the opinions of the American majority.

Ship of Fools is a broadside full of rage. Carlson’s targets are our mindless elite, most of whom are sheltered in the time-warp known as Washington, D.C. At its heart, this book has a very dire warning: the current path of self-destruction in American life can only end in two ways: 1) the suspension of democracy and the installation of authoritarian rule, or 2) the gutting of the elite and a return to the practice of mass democracy. Carlson would prefer the latter, but Ship of Fools points out with great relish that, in America, our elite seem hell-bent on not listening to voters at all.
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https://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/book-review/ship-fools
 
Hawkeye10 said:
He makes an argument, a thoughtful one, in my opinion a right one.

https://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/book-review/ship-fools
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I just don't see, based on the review, how that turns in to a thoughtful argument. It seems like a long book of complaints. I didn't hear anything about actual solutions. And alot of the (I'm assuming) attacks (like pointing out the Zuckerberg came from a privileged family) seem to be so far nothing more than very cheap and ugly attacks. It is far much easier to complain about things than to offer solutions, especially to etherial, very broad, complaints like "we don't manufacture anything any more! Must be the out of touch elitists fault!"

And then there's this:

Ship of Fools is a broadside full of rage. Carlson’s targets are our mindless elite, most of whom are sheltered in the time-warp known as Washington, D.C. At its heart, this book has a very dire warning: the current path of self-destruction in American life can only end in two ways: 1) the suspension of democracy and the installation of authoritarian rule, or 2) the gutting of the elite and a return to the practice of mass democracy. Carlson would prefer the latter, but Ship of Fools points out with great relish that, in America, our elite seem hell-bent on not listening to voters at all.
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When I hear people take complaints that you could apply to almost any time in history and act as though it is somehow unique to right now, I kind of have to assume that they haven't thought it out well or just want to complain like an old man about the kids on the lawn. Good luck naming a time in history where people were not complaining that the elected weren't listening to the electors, or that the leading "elite" are out of touch etc. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a chapter about the laziness and terrible music of the present day youth, lol.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I just don't see, based on the review, how that turns in to a thoughtful argument. It seems like a long book of complaints. I didn't hear anything about actual solutions. And alot of the (I'm assuming) attacks (like pointing out the Zuckerberg came from a privileged family) seem to be so far nothing more than very cheap and ugly attacks. It is far much easier to complain about things than to offer solutions, especially to etherial, very broad, complaints like "we don't manufacture anything any more! Must be the out of touch elitists fault!"

And then there's this:



When I hear people take complaints that you could apply to almost any time in history and act as though it is somehow unique to right now, I kind of have to assume that they haven't thought it out well or just want to complain like an old man about the kids on the lawn. Good luck naming a time in history where people were not complaining that the elected weren't listening to the electors, or that the leading "elite" are out of touch etc. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a chapter about the laziness and terrible music of the present day youth, lol.
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Figuring out that there is a problem is the first step in solving that problem. There is nothing wrong with working on step one only if step one has not been accomplished yet.

Your objection is without merit.
 
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