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Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

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Yes_Minister said:
Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

https://tracinskiletter.com/2016/10/02/a-libertarian-icons-descent-into-racist-pseudoscience/

For example, Stefan Molyneux claims to be Libertarian, but believes in race science, thinking some races are superior to others and thus should not have the same rights. Of course he is a big alt right star.

There are others though:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science
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No that’s not what Molynuex has ever said. Already you’re starting from a dishonest position
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

https://tracinskiletter.com/2016/10/02/a-libertarian-icons-descent-into-racist-pseudoscience/

For example, Stefan Molyneux claims to be Libertarian, but believes in race science, thinking some races are superior to others and thus should not have the same rights. Of course he is a big alt right star.

There are others though:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science
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Why do Leftist like you and your BS blog articles need to lie about what philosophers like Stephan Molynuex say about race and culture?

Please answer you thing of evil.
 
Casca XV said:
Why do Leftist like you and your BS blog articles need to lie about what philosophers like Stephan Molynuex say about race and culture?

Please answer you thing of evil.
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“You thing of evil”?

Daaaaamn.
 
Casca XV said:
Why do Leftist like you and your BS blog articles need to lie about what philosophers like Stephan Molynuex say about race and culture?

Please answer you thing of evil.
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On what planet is Stephen Molyneux a philosopher?
 
CMPancake said:
On what planet is Stephen Molyneux a philosopher?
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Is there a government licensing scheme now for philosophers? I think if you call yourself a philosopher you practically are. I mean Molyneux does nothing else to support himself other then asking for donations making content so he calls himself that and makes money from doing it


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Q: Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

A: The discovery of the truth is always a good idea.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Q: Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

A: The discovery of the truth is always a good idea.
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The truth is, science doesnt recognize race, but racists do.
 
PoS said:
The truth is, science doesnt recognize race, but racists do.
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The Truth is that some scientists argue that race is a social construct, which if they are right may or may not matter.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Truth is that some scientists argue that race is a social construct, which if they are right may or may not matter.
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Race is indeed a social construct, and has nothing to do with science. On that we are in agreement.
 
Casca XV said:
Why do Leftist like you and your BS blog articles need to lie about what philosophers like Stephan Molynuex say about race and culture?

Please answer you thing of evil.
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The philosophy of race and IQ. Sounds sketchy.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Truth is that some scientists argue that race is a social construct, which if they are right may or may not matter.
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Social scientists...not clinicians. Clinician go directly off empirical data and experimentation.

Since we can not experiment on humans, our data is skewed.

In order to have a definitive experiment on race and IQ without all the variances we would have to remove children at birth and rear them with the exact same methods and then chart difference.

We would have to this with large enough sample sizes.

Since we do not experiment on humans, there would be no way we could get an accurate outcome with all of the different variance that affect IQ.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

https://tracinskiletter.com/2016/10/02/a-libertarian-icons-descent-into-racist-pseudoscience/

For example, Stefan Molyneux claims to be Libertarian, but believes in race science, thinking some races are superior to others and thus should not have the same rights. Of course he is a big alt right star.

There are others though:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science
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From your article:

“It is true that a person’s IQ normally correlates with his or her income level and marital stability. IQ also does predict criminality, with most convicted felons having IQ scores falling between 75 and 90. And there are indeed disparities in average IQ between different ethnic groups; the ethnic groups’ respective average IQs are ranked in the same order in which Molyneux lists them”

So it seems that all are in agreement with the facts, it’s just the conclusions drawn from the facts that it seems that people are upset with
 
PoS said:
The truth is, science doesnt recognize race, but racists do.
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True. And those who most obsess about 'race' are, strangely, the people who imagine themselves to be 'anti-racists'.
 
1751Texan said:
Social scientists...not clinicians. Clinician go directly off empirical data and experimentation.

Since we can not experiment on humans, our data is skewed.

In order to have a definitive experiment on race and IQ without all the variances we would have to remove children at birth and rear them with the exact same methods and then chart difference.

We would have to this with large enough sample sizes.

Since we do not experiment on humans, there would be no way we could get an accurate outcome with all of the different variance that affect IQ.
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You need to delete that false concept, 'race', and replace it with 'gene pools'. But all gene pools overlap with many others obtaining discrete samples is impossible.
 
I agree that the word "race" or "ethnicity" is not really helpful.

In my opinion, the key word in this discussion should be culture.



(Because of very strict posting rules regarding "certain" topics, I shan't elaborate.)
 
Who remembers Jimmy the Greek...he was a football expert for cbs back in the 80’’s or 90’s

He made statements regarding race and certain positions on the football field, and gave his reasons

The network and people went nuts....called him a racist and he was fired

Now think about what he said way back then, and ask yourself....does it maybe have some truth to it?

Are black athletes built differently? Why do they dominate the speed events in every Olympic Games from my lifetime?

I don’t know if it’s culture or something else....I am not an expert by any means.....this is just based on almost 60 years of watching differing sports....

In some sports, the race of the individual makes little or no difference, but in others, the difference is very apparent....

For instance, look at again speed positions....the vast majority will be black

Why?...I dunno....just wondering after 30-40 years if maybe Jimmy wasn’t a little right?
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

https://tracinskiletter.com/2016/10/02/a-libertarian-icons-descent-into-racist-pseudoscience/

For example, Stefan Molyneux claims to be Libertarian, but believes in race science, thinking some races are superior to others and thus should not have the same rights. Of course he is a big alt right star.
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Early Darwinists were known to hold false ideas that humans descended from monkeys and that blacks were not as advanced as whites in evolution development. Serious, sensible, rational people do not believe that nonsense. Later studies have been done by those interested in rating the intelligence levels of different races. The book "The Bell Curve" was one result of that kind of research, but results of that kind of research have been met with violent opposition by large mobs of people so not much benefit to civilization from such a scientific study may ever be realized.
 
CMPancake said:
On what planet is Stephen Molyneux a philosopher?
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That is his self-described occupation and how he makes his living. Whether you agree with him (or not) is irrelevant.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Why are some right wingers trying to revive Race Science?

https://tracinskiletter.com/2016/10/02/a-libertarian-icons-descent-into-racist-pseudoscience/

For example, Stefan Molyneux claims to be Libertarian, but believes in race science, thinking some races are superior to others and thus should not have the same rights. Of course he is a big alt right star.

There are others though:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science
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The left tries to marginalize the right by claiming that they are all or mostly white supremacists. This is a lie.
 
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