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If our Constitution made liberalism, in effect, illegal what should we do with them?.

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Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
 
Every bit of the OP is built on a falsehood, today's "conservatives" are just as much about the power of governance as modern liberalism.

(On... and in before the flush)
 
James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Send the Conservatives back to England.
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James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Considering the Founders were liberals in their day I'd say that your post is full of crap.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Considering the Founders were liberals in their day I'd say that your post is full of crap.
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Correct. The cons of the day stuck with King George.

It's also a retread of several of his previous cognitive dissonance inducing threads.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Considering the Founders were liberals in their day I'd say that your post is full of crap.
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?? they were liberals for very tiny govt just like modern conservatives. The meaning of the word changed but not the concept of limited govt or freedom . Do you understand?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Correct. The cons of the day stuck with King George.
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actually we are using todays definitions. Liberals of the day( 1776) wanted freedom from govt; today they want huge govt. Do you understand?
 
OrphanSlug said:
Every bit of the OP is built on a falsehood, today's "conservatives" are just as much about the power of governance as modern liberalism.

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liberals want Obamacare socialism, conservatives oppose for example!!
 
James972 said:
liberals want Obamacare socialism, conservatives oppose for example!!
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"Conservatives" overwhelmingly want Medicare (healthcare leaning socialism model,) Social Security (also rooted in socialism leans,) Farm Subsidies (which is protectionism and planned economics... not capitalism,) etc. all of which are not examples of being anti-socialism. "Conservatives" are also not about freedoms or liberty in any regard consistently looking for not just social standards but also infliction of massive domestic spying programs and regulation of anything critical of them and/or involved in information exchange on any level.

Spare us the nonsense, there is no such thing as a "Constitutional Conservative" anywhere in today's "Conservatism" ideology.
 
James972 said:
?? they were liberals for very tiny govt just like modern conservatives. The meaning of the word changed but not the concept of limited govt or freedom . Do you understand?
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They were still liberals of their day. Liberalism in and of itself does not mean "big government" or "socialism". It simply means that someone has a view that is broader or different than past thinking.
 
"Freedom" and "huge government" are loaded terms. What constitutes a "huge" government? Are you against the socialization of law enforcement? What about fire protection? Both of these things are socialized in America today, and I don't recall any well-known conservative politicians seriously advocating for privatizing police or fire departments in my lifetime. Do you think it would be a good idea to get the government out of the business of enforcing laws? What about aviation safety? Is government control over these things too much power?

I don't know a single liberal who wants the federal government to own all property and dictate their daily routines. I don't know a single conservative who wants the police to send them a massive bill when someone tries to break into their home. However, I do know many liberals who do not want hospitals to send them a massive bill when they have a heart attack.

In this light, the "liberal agenda" doesn't sound like a "huge government" to me. It sounds like it wants to get people who have the privilege of living in this country to chip in their fair share to take care of the less fortunate. People who don't want to pay their fair share don't sound much like American patriots to me. I think this is a case of you not understanding the spirit of what the Constitution of the U.S. stands for.
 
lwf said:
Are you against the socialization of law enforcement? What about fire protection? Both of these things are socialized in America today, and I don't recall any well-known conservative politicians seriously advocating for privatizing police or fire departments in my lifetime. .
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actually socialism is when govt owns major industries. Do you understand?
 
lwf said:
I don't know a single liberal who wants the federal government to own all property and dictate their daily routines.
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yo're not keeping up. Bernie Sanders is an open communist and most popular Democrat!!
 
lwf said:
In this light, the "liberal agenda" doesn't sound like a "huge government" to me.
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Obamacare, free college, $15/hour are but 3 of the latest welfare entitlements in the never ending liberal pipeline. Do you understand?


Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
 
James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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And you yourself have plainly stated at this website that the constitution makes conservatism illegal because it's treason.

Where are my $10,000, by the way?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Liberalism in and of itself does not mean "big government" or "socialism".
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using todays definitions it does. When we speak we don't ask people to know definitions at different times and places in history. Do you understand?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Correct. The cons of the day stuck with King George.

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We are not talking about meaning of words but rather a principle: freedom or govt. Conservatives stand from freedom and liberals stand for govt which is why they want Obamacare, free college, spied for Stalin, voted for Sanders(an open communist), and want a living communist Constitution. Make sense now?
 
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James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Failure to grasp the idea of a representative government right there.

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James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Let's keep in mind that your entire premise is bull****, and therefore you sound like even bigger of a joke than you did before.
 
James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Let us all hail and praise those great bastions of conservatism who led us through those two world wars - Presidents Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.
 
James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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I prefer the term Leftist over Liberal. Up until the time of FDR the term Liberal described a person who is the exact opposite of what it describes today.

A favorite propaganda tactic of the Left is hijacking positive or cool sounding titles and redefining terms.

The defining difference between todays Left and Right is that Leftist have a Collectivist mindset and the Right has an Individualist mindset.

The US Constitution is the ultimate document of Individualism. That is why most Leftist don't really it. Example: Obama referring to the US Constitution as a "Charter of Negative Liberties".

Every type of Collectivist Ideology: Socialism, Fascism, Communism etc. requires an all powerful Govt just to exist or function. (Yes, Fascism is Leftist, pre WW2 every Leftist from Lenin to FDR was happy to claim it as their own. Only after WW2 when the Holocaust became known did the Left start redefining terms and revising history).

Individualist ideology requires a limited power Govt. The US Constitutions protects freedom by limiting the power of the Govt. That is why the US Constitution cant outlaw any ideology even one as destructive as Leftism.
 
James972 said:
Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
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Load them up in trucks and cattle cars and ship them to camps and exterminate them. Trying to lay the ground work of that needed to actually do it?
 
ElChupacabra said:
Failure to grasp the idea of a representative government right there.
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you know there is a liberal around when you see pictures. To a liberal dueling picture is debating! Sad!
 
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