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Prager U: left vs liberal

it's just me said:
I have spent a lot of time wondering what happened to liberal compassion, patriotism, and tolerance. Dennis Prager clears it up in this video:


https://www.prageru.com/videos/left-or-liberal
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"Dear liberals, conservatives are not your enemies. The left is."

Which is why so many people like myself call themselves libertarians or moderate conservatives. We are, in fact, classical liberals, but to call ourselves that would confuse people. I suppose that, semantically speaking, there's no untangling "liberal" from "left" any more. One more reason to consider the left to be evil.

Liberalism is the opposite of leftism. Yes, that's true. Liberals, properly speaking, are capitalistic, pro-American, nationalistic, promote color-blind policies, de-segregation, equality of all people, free speech, freedom to practice religion, and equality of the sexes. The left is the opposite.
 
Anarchon said:
Classical liberalism is dead. I'm not sure what the hell you'd call this abortion that has replaced it.
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Leftism. Prager lays it out in the video. The hell of it is that this has all happened in the past 20 years or so. I wasn't able to make sense of it until I saw this video.
 
LowDown said:
"Dear liberals, conservatives are not your enemies. The left is."

Which is why so many people like myself call themselves libertarians or moderate conservatives. We are, in fact, classical liberals, but to call ourselves that would confuse people. I suppose that, semantically speaking, there's no untangling "liberal" from "left" any more. One more reason to consider the left to be evil.

Liberalism is the opposite of leftism. Yes, that's true. Liberals, properly speaking, are capitalistic, pro-American, nationalistic, promote color-blind policies, de-segregation, equality of all people, free speech, freedom to practice religion, and equality of the sexes. The left is the opposite.
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And I remember when what you say is true. I don't know why the insanity - and let's face it - stupidity of leftism replaced liberalism.
 
LowDown said:
"Dear liberals, conservatives are not your enemies. The left is."
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Or maybe anyone who attributes generic and divisive political labels to themselves, and especially to other people, is the enemy of all of us? There is a key difference between attacking specific ideas, principles or policies and attacking large groups of people on the presumption that they all believe what you’ve accused them of believing.

The problem is that attacking ideas can only serve to change the ideas. Attacking groups of people makes money and wins elections.
 
Prager U are hackish.
 
chuckiechan said:
This is why Prager's videos are booted off of Facebook. You just can't allow this thinking to exist. The left is scared to death of what he says.

You should join Prager U. There are videos on all kinds of matters.

https://www.prageru.com/
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I thought facebook restored their videos? Either way, I do think that creating echo chambers where only one view is presented does a disservice to people as a whole. We should constantly be challenging ideas since so much changes and societies are dynamic. The reality as it relates to media though, is the business element which sets in play the need to cater to the demographic generating your ad sales.
 
Dennis Prager. Lol
 
ElChupacabra said:
I thought facebook restored their videos? Either way, I do think that creating echo chambers where only one view is presented does a disservice to people as a whole. We should constantly be challenging ideas since so much changes and societies are dynamic. The reality as it relates to media though, is the business element which sets in play the need to cater to the demographic generating your ad sales.
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Why don't you go Prager U and watch the video on the electoral college. It's one of the best ones out there. I don't think you watch his videos.

https://www.prageru.com/playlists/most-popular#1
 
Dennis Prager, a right wing AM talk radio host, insists he can define what a liberal is better than liberals, via a brand new take on an old and obsolete label, the "classic liberal".
Further proof of Philip K. Dick's famous quote:

"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them."
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vegas giants said:
I never wondered what happened to conservative compassion, patriotism and tolerance....because it never existed
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In the words of well known leftie Gov. Cuomo, "America was never that great." I hope he runs for president and therefore is forced to answer for that nonsense.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Dennis Prager, a right wing AM talk radio host, insists he can define what a liberal is better than liberals, via a brand new take on an old and obsolete label, the "classic liberal".
Further proof of Philip K. Dick's famous quote:
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Do you think John Locke would approve of modern day Liberalism? Why, or why not?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Dennis Prager, a right wing AM talk radio host, insists he can define what a liberal is better than liberals, via a brand new take on an old and obsolete label, the "classic liberal".
Further proof of Philip K. Dick's famous quote:
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This is rich. The loony left started insisting on 1984 style newspeak (aka political correctness) years ago and now they accuse Dennis Prager of manipulating reality for advocating clarity.
 
it's just me said:
This is rich. The loony left started insisting on 1984 style newspeak (aka political correctness) years ago and now they accuse Dennis Prager of manipulating reality for advocating clarity.
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What's rich is partisan hacks who want everyone to (A) believe that all liberals are "loony left" and (B) that political correctness and newspeak is exclusively a liberal thing. In point of fact, political correctness originated with the Moral Majority on the Right.
You'd best step back from the computer, you're toying with something you don't understand.
 
marke said:
In the words of well known leftie Gov. Cuomo, "America was never that great." I hope he runs for president and therefore is forced to answer for that nonsense.
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Actually he didn't say that
 
HonestJoe said:
Or maybe anyone who attributes generic and divisive political labels to themselves, and especially to other people, is the enemy of all of us? There is a key difference between attacking specific ideas, principles or policies and attacking large groups of people on the presumption that they all believe what you’ve accused them of believing.

The problem is that attacking ideas can only serve to change the ideas. Attacking groups of people makes money and wins elections.
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A leftist calling himself a liberal is like a wolf putting on sheep's clothing.
 
vegas giants said:
Actually he didn't say that
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According to the New York Times, he did.

I suppose what he meant is that America will be great only when we have reached the leftist dream of utopia. Which means, of course, it will never happen.
 
LowDown said:
"Dear liberals, conservatives are not your enemies. The left is."

Which is why so many people like myself call themselves libertarians or moderate conservatives. We are, in fact, classical liberals, but to call ourselves that would confuse people. I suppose that, semantically speaking, there's no untangling "liberal" from "left" any more. One more reason to consider the left to be evil.

Liberalism is the opposite of leftism. Yes, that's true. Liberals, properly speaking, are capitalistic, pro-American, nationalistic, promote color-blind policies, de-segregation, equality of all people, free speech, freedom to practice religion, and equality of the sexes. The left is the opposite.
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Liberals and Neo-liberals (what is being called "the left" here) parted ways in the early Industrial Revolution. That was the last time capitalism was left completely free. That was the gilded age, when you had a handful of factory owners working a few days a month and making more than the entire GDP of entire nations, while hiring kids as young as 8 to work 80 hour weeks in factories and mines with dangerous equipment and chemicals, with no liability or responsibility for their safety.

The situation, left alone and free to itself as the classical liberals were urging, was worsening, not improving. In Europe particularly, which in countries like the UK the industrial revolution was further along than the US, workers and the public at large were beginning to rebel. Marx had prosphecied that capitalism was going to mature and eventually that's when the workers would undergo a violent revolution and take over the means of production. That was what was starting to happen. Violent, radical Marxist parties were starting to win elections and doing very well in poll after poll. The situation seemed unsustainable.

That's when the new liberals ("neo-liberals") came in. They were not Marxists. They wanted to save capitalism from Marxism. They did not feel that a violent workers' revolution was inevitable as Marx had predicted. They proposed some commonsense regulations like child labor laws, overtime laws, workplace safety laws, antitrust laws, unionization, etc... and the sense of rebellion started to fade. The Marxist parties started to go down in the polls and fade away.

So in that sense, it was the neo- liberals, not the classical ones, who saved capitalism. Left to the classical liberals, Marxism would have had much more of an inroad in western industrial nations in Europe, and possibly even the US.
 
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LowDown said:
According to the New York Times, he did.

I suppose what he meant is that America will be great only when we have reached the leftist dream of utopia. Which means, of course, it will never happen.
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Sorry. Read the quote again
 
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