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The economy Trump REALLY inherited.

Once again, this thread isn't intended has the 638th rehash of Obama's economic policies for his term. The thread addresses the common form of NUH-Uh spewed by LWers when ever the strong performance of the economy is brought up - "Trump inherited from Obama". The linked article provides data and commentary (including from the NEW YORK friggin' TIMES) that the economy in 2016 sucked. THAT'S what Trump inherited, an anemic economy, a declining market and Schumer and Pelosi.

I'd bet a substantial amount of money that if Clinton had won and turned in this type of performance this thread's entire Nuh-uh chorus would be nominating for Woman of the Century.
 
See, here is your problem, the stock market in 2007 was over 14,000 which you seem to want to ignore and also ignore who was in charge of Congress thus having control of the purse strings and legislative programs. Seems the left wanted the WH more than helping the American people yet you remain loyal. Cherry picking data is what you and the radical left does as you totally ignore the policies implemented and pick a point in time you want to compare.

You ignore for example the 14000 stock market in 2007, you ignore the 146 million Americans employed in January 2008, you ignore the 4800 part time employees for economic reasons and the 9.2% U-6, and more importantly you ignore that it was the Obama budget for 2009 and the Obama stimulus passed almost day one by the Democratic Congress that took employment down 3 million from when he took office.

This is why the left has zero credibility so again the question is why such loyalty and why are you allowing the left to manipulate you and make you look foolish
And remember the comments that unemployment would never get greater than 8% and those promised "Summers of Recovery"?
 
No, actually the predictions were that the economy should continue to grow at a reasonable although less than stellar rate unless Trump did something really ****ing stupid to **** it all up. So far he hasn't ****ed up, but this trade war is getting close and there are some bad indicators popping up all over.


None of these things were ever predicted by any liberal economic forecasters.


No, actually even Marco Rubio has been forced to admit that the Tax cuts are doing little good. Job Growth is roughly the same as it was under Obama except Trump is increasing the deficit whereas Obama was reducing it.

So Obama was reducing the deficit while adding 9.3 trillion to the debt?? Interesting liberal logic and excuse making as all you do is blame others for Obama's failures. Obama did nothing to reduce the deficits the GOP Congress took care of that and as far as tax cuts are concerned the jobs being created have taken us to almost full employment so hard to generate the job growth like Obama did after reducing employment from 142 million down to 138 million Giving him credit for bringing the employment back to pre recession levels and ignoring how the economy never responded to his stimulus speaks volumes.

As for that stupid ass chart you posted again the best way to shut up a liberal is to confuse them with Treasury data which I just did and you ignored. How does increasing FIT revenue lead to deficits??
 
51% approval back in June, I wonder what it is today. At least there is something Trump has done that has majority approval. It sure isn't his Presidency as a whole.
About 48% last I checked; A couple of points higher than Obama at the same point in his term.
 
And remember the comments that unemployment would never get greater than 8% and those promised "Summers of Recovery"?

Yep, good old Christina Romer Obama's economic advisor and the Summer of Recovery results mirror the foreign policy results from the Arab Spring just a different season
 
I rest my case, you simply cannot celebrate success or even recognize it without partisan rhetoric. It does appear that regardless of what Trump does or the results generated he is never going to get a fair shot by anyone from the left including you. What seems to matter to far too many is rhetoric and diversion from the results

From the article. It is great seeing that not all Democrats are partisan to a fault and do recognize successes
Must hurt the Obama chorus that more and more people are giving Trump credit for the growing economy.
 
The problem we have with this man in the White House is that he constantly and never endingly lies. In addition, he makes o attempt to unite the country, only divide. He plays to his base and thats all he cares about. The man is a fraud, liar, and failure by any stretch of the imagination.
LOL, how predictable; when all else fails trot out the "Trump lies" card. Of course what DOESN'T lie is the tsunami of great economic data that just keeps washing away the Obamanomics sand castle.
 
The problem we have with this man in the White House is that he constantly and never endingly lies. In addition, he makes no attempt to unite the country, only divide. He plays to his base and thats all he cares about. The man is a fraud, liar, and failure by any stretch of the imagination.
Ybeah, he ought to make the same efforts to unite the country that Obama made. Oh, wait, he has. Obama once said "hey, I won, elections have consequences". He was soooooo right. Suck it up, big guys.
 
LOL, how predictable; when all else fails trot out the "Trump lies" card. Of course what DOESN'T lie is the tsunami of great economic data that just keeps washing away the Obamanomics sand castle.

What great economic data?
 
A far better question would be, what did republicans in Congress do to help president Obama?
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Here's my question: IF Obama did such a wonderful job why did the people crush his commanding control of Congress in 2010 - and don't spew the "normal mid-term election, BS. You lost something like 66 house seats in on friggin' election. Coincidentally - when one looks at economic metric trends from 2011 (when GOP majority was actually seated) on there is almost universal improvement - so maybe that's what the GOP did for him - make it look like he had Clue One about economics.
 
Historically the year of a presidential election is marred by an unremarkable economy. That is true regardless of who is president and who is running for president. It is generally then followed up by a decent bump after the election regardless of who wins.

I would argue that it has more to do with the fact that a lot of millionaires and billionaires are spending exorbitant amounts of money lobbying for their candidates instead of investing in their actual companies.


It's not an excuse it is the reason why economic growth has been relatively low this last decade, and it still is under Trump.


Actually, Obama inherited -2.8% GDP growth, and in his second year turned into +2.5% GDP growth. That's year to year improvement of 5.3% growth which is actually insanely good.


Ummm... No, what it says was that in Obama's final year in office(which was an election year) the economy wasn't as good as it was the 5 preceding years when Obama was also president. Despite that, we still had growth.


First, the stock market is not the economy, and if you think it is you need to ask yourself why it's been relatively piss poor this year despite Republican tax cuts.

Second, as I pointed out earlier history has shown that the economy and stock market often behaves quite mildly in an election year, and it is frequently followed by a post-election bump. That generally happens regardless of who is in the office or who wins.

Overall, President Obama had at least three years of Job Growth that was better than the first two years under Trump so things are roughly the same, maybe even worse.


Each of Obama's final four years in office saw the number of Job Openings break records.


Was already very high under Obama.


No, that would seem to be you.


You have not presented one shred of evidence to indicate the Economy is on a better trajectory today than it was three years ago. It's roughly the same and in some cases worse. The single biggest difference between today and three years ago was that Obama was actually reducing our deficits not making them worse. Trump is bringing back trillion dollar deficits with little or no economic improvement to show for them.
LOL, MAN you are good at spew jabberwocky excuses. And total stone-cold blindness.
 
About 48% last I checked; A couple of points higher than Obama at the same point in his term.

According to Real Clear Politics, the average Trump approval is 43%, with Galup at 39%, but you can cherry pick all you want.
 
Then you shouldn't have any problem posting them since there were so many none of which even if they occurred comes close to the corrupt Obama Administration

Instead of me posting them, just Google, "Trump lies". There are thousands upon thousands of site for you to pick from
 
Job growth hadn't leveled off. That's what most of us care about, other than real wages. Real wage growth has sucked for decades, it's still sucking at -0.2%.

Until we get serious about fighting income disparity, which isn't part of the Trump agenda, it will continue to suck.
Income disparity is due to worker skill disparity. Start by making sure that kids graduating high school have a real high school education. Make college students aware that four years of sucking at the student loan teat to get a degree in Albanian studies is not wise.
 
Trump is president right now with a pretty solid economy.

Does he get the same opinion from you?

Absolutely. The economy is good right now, lets see how he screws it up with taxing imports.
 
Instead of me posting them, just Google, "Trump lies". There are thousands upon thousands of site for you to pick from
Any of them compare to "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" or "unemployment will never get above 8%"?
 
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Here's my question: IF Obama did such a wonderful job why did the people crush his commanding control of Congress in 2010 - and don't spew the "normal mid-term election, BS. You lost something like 66 house seats in on friggin' election. Coincidentally - when one looks at economic metric trends from 2011 (when GOP majority was actually seated) on there is almost universal improvement - so maybe that's what the GOP did for him - make it look like he had Clue One about economics.

It must be terrible for you to know that on almost every economic metric, Obama did better than trump!
 
Any of them compare to "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" or "unemployment will never get above 8%"?

Obama never said that unemployment would never get above 8%, idiot. Think before you post garbage.
 
Just checked: DJIA closed at 25186 a whooping 5,1% off record high. All Obama worshipers proceed to your lifeboats.
 
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