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Trump's* Little Lies Versus Democrats' Huge Lies:

James972 said:
both Sanders and Cortez have supported many communist causes. LIke HItler Stalin Mao MUssolini they never say at first how big they want govt to be just so long as its always bigger.

Democratic Socialists of America Leaders Say 'Communism is Good'
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Jul 2, 2018 - Multiple Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) leaders are openly endorsing communism on social media, indicating that the already far-left ...


Thomas Jefferson:Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Man, you need some new source material. As for communism being good, I don't agree with the idea government should control industry. I'm an advocate for government being the tool of the people in protecting public sector interests. Either extremes have proven to lead to catastrophe.
 
James972 said:
does liberal have his best examples of just goofing??
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James, where do you place Voltaire in your Bad Bad Bad Liberals versus Great Great Great Conservatives dichotomy?

Voltaire, born in Paris France as Francois-Marie Arouet on November 21, 1694, enjoyed great success as a philosopher and writer. In later Life he adopted Switzerland as his home.

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Voltaire perceived the French bourgeoisie to be too small and ineffective; the aristocracy to be parasitic and corrupt; the commoners as ignorant and superstitious, and the church as a static force only useful as a counterbalance since its "religious tax," or the tithe, helped to cement a powerbase against the monarchy.

Voltaire distrusted democracy, which he saw as propagating the "idiocy of the masses". To Voltaire only an enlightened monarch, advised by philosophers like himself, could bring about change as it was in the king's rational interest to improve the power and wealth of France in the world. Voltaire is quoted as saying that he “would rather obey one lion, than two hundred rats of [his own] species.” Voltaire essentially believed monarchy to be the key to progress and change.

Almost all his more substantive works, whether in verse or prose, are preceded by prefaces of one sort or another, which are models of his own light pungent causerie; and in a vast variety of nondescript pamphlets and writings he shows himself a perfect journalist.
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Voltaire - New World Encyclopedia
 
Trippy Trekker said:
James, where do you place Voltaire in your Bad Bad Bad Liberals versus Great Great Great Conservatives dichotomy?
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who cares?? not really sure where he stood, seems on side of monarchy and against democracy or the common man. More importantly where do you stand in the battles between freedom and govt, given that govt has been the source of evil in human history?
 
James972 said:
who cares?? not really sure where he stood, seems on side of monarchy and against democracy or the common man. More importantly where do you stand in the battles between freedom and govt, given that govt has been the source of evil in human history?
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Shrink government down down down to where you might not even notice it. Tolerate speech, differences and diversity to the very limits of your ability. Show compassion for humanity. Never lose sight of our Common Welfare and the importance of unity for society to make personal progress for the greatest number of people.
 
James972 said:
so are you a libertarian or Republican. Why?
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Philosophically more aligned with libertarian ideology than Republican Dogma. I support pragmatic realism, intent on striving toward the goals I stated in post #55. I place a premium on living with Grace, Honor, Humor and Love. Let Love reign Supreme!
 
James972 said:
does liberal have his best examples of just goofing??
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On the one hand you have the extreme of soviet style communism, and on the other you have the conditions which led to the Great Depression and the Housing Market crisis. In the latter, lack of oversight and regulation led the market to gamble without regard for the potential failure, as a result the market didn't correct itself but instead had to be bailed out by public funds to avert further catastrophe.
 
ElChupacabra said:
On the one hand you have the extreme of soviet style communism, and on the other you have the conditions which led to the Great Depression and the Housing Market crisis..
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you mean in both cases liberal interference with the Republican free market??? 1+1=2
 
ElChupacabra said:
In the latter, lack of oversight and regulation led the market to gamble without regard for the potential failure, as a result the market didn't correct itself but instead had to be bailed out by public funds to avert further catastrophe.
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totally illiterate and liberal of course. Regulation and over sight was massive and cause of Great Depression. Bernanke said we would not make same mistake twice and he didn't thus preventing the housing crisis from becoming another 16 year depression and world war!!. I see your economic knowledge is no better than your other knowledge. Sad!!
 
James972 said:
totally illiterate and liberal of course. Regulation and over sight was massive and cause of Great Depression. Bernanke said we would not make same mistake twice and he didn't thus preventing the housing crisis from becoming another 16 year depression and world war!!. I see your economic knowledge is no better than your other knowledge. Sad!!
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:lamo

<<cough>>

:lamo


You have no clue or the ability to debate anything. Thanks for the laughs.
 
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James972 said:
you mean in both cases liberal interference with the Republican free market??? 1+1=2
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:lamo

You'd have to be blind or just willfully ignorant to think free markets correct themselves. History shows us something entirely different. I'd expect you to know this, but with the revisionist history you cite ("the founding of US ended slavery :lamo....that's as classically dense as I've seen anywhere) anything is possible. You use "1+1=2" but nothing of what you've posted makes a case for anything.
 
ElChupacabra said:
:lamo

<<cough>>

:lamo


You have no clue or the ability to debate anything. Thanks for the laughs.
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why not tell us where you got confused and I will try to explain in even simpler terms?
 
ElChupacabra said:
:lamo

You'd have to be blind or just willfully ignorant to think free markets correct themselves..
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they do every day in 1000's of industries . the only difference in housing was massive liberal interference in market. Same reason entire USSR and Red Chinese failed ie massive govt interference in every industry. Now do you understand??
 
James972 said:
why not tell us date slavery started, date it ended, date America was founded? See how easy the was?
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Seriously? I need to tell you that the US became a sovereign nation in 1776 and slavery was legally ended in 1865? Good lord.
 
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James972 said:
they do every day in 1000's of industries . the only difference in housing was massive liberal interference in market. Same reason entire USSR and Red Chinese failed ie massive govt interference in every industry. Now do you understand??
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So tell us what this "liberal" interference was then.
 
OlNate said:
lmao... Fun read, bud. Thanks. :)
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Yeah, it's like being on the back of a kid's Big Wheel with a kid who can't steer that well at all.

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ElChupacabra said:
So tell us what this "liberal" interference was then.
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for example, big liberal govt controlled the money supply, as they do now, and they let it drop 34%. Imagine what would happen if we woke up tomorrow and found out the 34% of the money in the economy has been taken away??
 
ElChupacabra said:
Seriously? I need to tell you that the US became a sovereign nation in 1776 and slavery was legally ended in 1865? Good lord.
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do you you know why you failed to tell us when slavery began?? when it ended, and when America was formed?
 
James972 said:
for example, big liberal govt controlled the money supply, as they do now, and they let it drop 34%. Imagine what would happen if we woke up tomorrow and found out the 34% of the money in the economy has been taken away??
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You'll have to clarify that point further and be specific. Are you railing about the Federal Reserve or the US Treasury, and what specific situation are you referring to?
 
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