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Trump-regret syndrome is spreading

Cardinal said:
Uh huh. So what did you think about what he said?
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Not going to lie. I didnt bother reading it. Didnt give a **** about his opinions before, and I'm damn sure not going to start because you are desperate to create some ridiculous rabbit hole to avoid YOUR responsibility.

But...but...but...WHATABOUT!!! WHATABOUT!!!

:lamo
 
Ikari said:
Hillary was a crap candidate who ran a crap campaign, I cannot be faulted for that no matter how much you want that to be the case.
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You believe Donald Trump is the worst president in American History. He is going to end up naming multiple judges to the supreme court with lifetime appointments and end up radically undermining American credibility for a generation. Even if you are still delusional enough to think Hillary was a crap candidate, there is no way a sane rational person can argue she would have been a worse president, or that she would have done more harm to the country.

Even if you firmly believe Hillary would have been bad for America, at the very least you must admit that the long-term damage would have been less, and the ability to come back from whatever harm she might have caused would have been easier.

You keep saying Hillary was a crap candidate. But being a crap candidate doesn't actually mean she would have been bad at governing. Hillary Clinton served two terms in the U.S. Senate, and four years as secretary of state and while imperfect in those roles she proved her self-competent in both positions. She also served as what was essentially a chief advisor to former President Bill Clinton in what by all accounts was a fairly successful Presidency despite a sex scandal that she clearly didn't approve of.

It's time for you to wake up and admit to the reality that there's a big difference between "someone you really don't like" and "someone who would be a terrible president."
 
VanceMack said:
You have to truly be joking if you think i have ever listened to or cared much about what Ted Nugent does or says.
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Well, you should because clearly, Donald Trump cares about what Ted Nugent does or says.

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MrWonka said:
You believe Donald Trump is the worst president in American History. He is going to end up naming multiple judges to the supreme court with lifetime appointments and end up radically undermining American credibility for a generation. Even if you are still delusional enough to think Hillary was a crap candidate, there is no way a sane rational person can argue she would have been a worse president, or that she would have done more harm to the country.

Even if you firmly believe Hillary would have been bad for America, at the very least you must admit that the long-term damage would have been less, and the ability to come back from whatever harm she might have caused would have been easier.

You keep saying Hillary was a crap candidate. But being a crap candidate doesn't actually mean she would have been bad at governing. Hillary Clinton served two terms in the U.S. Senate, and four years as secretary of state and while imperfect in those roles she proved her self-competent in both positions. She also served as what was essentially a chief advisor to former President Bill Clinton in what by all accounts was a fairly successful Presidency despite a sex scandal that she clearly didn't approve of.

It's time for you to wake up and admit to the reality that there's a big difference between "someone you really don't like" and "someone who would be a terrible president."
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She would have been terrible at governing, she is just a Corporate shill. More backers than NASCAR. She would have taken the Republic in a direction I don't think is healthy. She's not that much better than Trump, not enough for me to have warranted voting for her.

I get that you're all super angry, but I'm not voting for candidates who are opposite my own political ideologies. If you want me to vote for a Democratic candidate, you're going to need better candidates. That's all.
 
Cardinal said:
Be both know you read the Nugent quote.
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Claim it as you wish...but you are wrong. And that pretty much proves you were lying about not looking at the pictures. :lamo
 
Ikari said:
She would have been terrible at governing, she is just a Corporate Shill.
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Ummm... you know how much it costs to run for President in this country right? That's Republicans fault. Hillary just beat them at their own game.

Ikari said:
She would have taken the Republic in a direction I don't think is healthy.
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But even if you believe that crap, you can't possibly believe it would have been less healthy than Trump, given that you said he's the worst president ever.

Ikari said:
I get that you're all super angry, but I'm not voting for candidates who are opposite my own political ideologies.
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Yes, it is true that I put the good of my country over my political ideology and think we'd all be better off if more people did that.

I bet there was a lot of people like you who didn't think Paul von Hindenburg's ideology matched up with there's either.
 
MrWonka said:
Yes, it is true that I put the good of my country over my political ideology and think we'd all be better off if more people did that.

I bet there was a lot of people like you who didn't think Paul von Hindenburg's ideology matched up with there's either.
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I think we'd be better off if people voted for the candidate they thought were best and whom best reflected their ideology regardless of political party and "chances of winning".
 
It's no surprise. It happens during any and every Republican presidency. The media devote nearly 100% of their time to turning public opinion AGAINST republicans. They even do it when republicans control nothing! Remember Obama's first term? The democrats had VASTLY more overall power than the republicans have EVER had in my entire lifetime!

But when you watched the 'news', all you'd hear was praise of Obama and the dems who controlled both houses, along with a BIG helping of republican-hate! The democrats did no wrong, and the republicans did no right, according to the news media. Even when Obama's policies were so unpopular that he lost a big congressional majority in 2010, then he lost the Senate in 2014! Does ANYONE remember the news media honestly portraying those huge, symbolic losses in an honest way? No?

Well, remember just months ago, when just a few republicans lost to democrats, and the media portrayed those minor losses as huge and symbolic! But not when MANY more democrat governors lost to republicans under Obama, when dems lost a filibuster proof majority to Republican control, then when dems lost the Senate. That was NEVER portrayed as the public smackdown of democrats, that it truly was!
 
Mach said:
I think the segment of his supporters that are not complete and total morons are waiting for, like many, the Mueller investigation to conclude.
And they don't mind if House Republicans obstruct that effort, threaten to impeach Rosenstein, parade out nonsense attacks on the DOJ, etc...their patriotism and sense of decency is, how did that guy say it...in escrow right now. They would love to see the investigation end, so they would not have to consider what we all know is coming after both the social media Russians, and the hacking Russians, are now all laid out as establishing a criminal conspiracy against the United States.

The Trump ass-kissing of Putin has been going on since the beginning, this recent Helsinki display was just a lot of it, all in front of Putin on the world stage. Trump did his normal betray America stuff, but then added on top the traitorous idea of trading Americans for Russians, having Putin help us with cyber security, and of course his secret back room meeting with an agenda we know nothing about.

That's the pinnacle of what he's done so far in furthering the Putin agenda, but his base was never concerned about that. What's trading America if in return we get to treat immigrants like ****, strip the EPA, pack the courts, and cut taxes and increase the deficit for the next president to unravel?

I suspect we'll see enough people change their tune when Mueller concludes. If it's not allowed to conclude, there will be a fight at many levels of government and likely from public outrage. I hope it doesn't come to that.
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I know some swing voters who voted for Trump. They could turn on him, but I am not sure they understand the importance of NATO or our alliances, nor do I think they are very informed over all. That's the problem with some of these swing voters
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump didn't say anything in Helsinki he has not said before in television interviews, in tweets, and at rah-rah rally's for his base. The tax returns refusal was the first real red flag. The real Donald Trump should be painfully obvious to all by now. He again demonstrated this to everyone on the global stage in Helsinki. Either via sketchy loans from Russian banks or via frolicking with Russian hookers, Donald Trump is compromised ...Kompromat. Putin owns Trump and Trump both knows it and shows it.

It's also obvious that the Republicans are going to try and ride this disaster called Trump out until their Congressional seats combust from political pressures. They won't act until forced by the universal survival instinct.
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It's a total embarrassment to our country. Anybody supporting him, is not on the side of America's best interests.

I don't know what Nixon supporters eventually felt, when the truth was revealed. I do believe the truth of Trump will be revealed eventually, and I hope all these Trump supporters learn a lesson from it....
 
Cardinal said:
Be both know you read the Nugent quote.
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I'll never forget the time when Ted Nugent made such a deep, original and thought provoking comment that we can ALL get behind. He was on a morning tv news program, at the same time a guest chef was there. The chef said something about the food he was cooking, and it was at that moment when Ted Nugent made that insightful comment that I think of every day. He deliberately, confidently but calmly stated "I prefer leaner meat, because it has less fat, which I avoid, cause its unhealthy".

This was ONLY 2-3 years ago! How could he have known that excessive animal fat is NOT part of a healthy diet, that far back in human history?

Ted is not only a great poet and philosopher, he must be some kind of sorcerer! Lol
 
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