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Politically The Difference Between Massachusetts and California

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I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never. I noticed that the population in Mass. is more stable. Fewer people move in and out. Many people take pride in their community. It's not unusual to see people volunteer to paint the town gazebo. They currently have a Republican governor. I don't feel like most of the population there is hostile to Republicans. I hear lots of people say they are Democrats, but it's nice to have a few Republicans around to prevent elected officials from getting too cocky. I asked that my sons be excused from environmentalist .activities because we believe that environmentalism is pagan Earth worship. Some forms were filled out for a religious exemption for certain activities and assignments and it was granted. In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
 
The politics of a place, most especially a place so large as a state, wouldn't ever affect my choice to live there or not.
 
The thing about Massachusetts Republicans are that they do what California Republicans need to do and shift to the left politically and mostly abandon socially conservative policies and instead focus on fiscal conservatism.
 
SDET said:
I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never. I noticed that the population in Mass. is more stable. Fewer people move in and out. Many people take pride in their community. It's not unusual to see people volunteer to paint the town gazebo. They currently have a Republican governor. I don't feel like most of the population there is hostile to Republicans. I hear lots of people say they are Democrats, but it's nice to have a few Republicans around to prevent elected officials from getting too cocky. I asked that my sons be excused from environmentalist .activities because we believe that environmentalism is pagan Earth worship. Some forms were filled out for a religious exemption for certain activities and assignments and it was granted. In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
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How long have you lived in California?
 
SDET said:
I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never. I noticed that the population in Mass. is more stable. Fewer people move in and out. Many people take pride in their community. It's not unusual to see people volunteer to paint the town gazebo. They currently have a Republican governor. I don't feel like most of the population there is hostile to Republicans. I hear lots of people say they are Democrats, but it's nice to have a few Republicans around to prevent elected officials from getting too cocky. I asked that my sons be excused from environmentalist .activities because we believe that environmentalism is pagan Earth worship. Some forms were filled out for a religious exemption for certain activities and assignments and it was granted. In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
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So, IOW, you've never actually been to California and have no idea what it's like here, but you feel content to bray about it anyhow.
 
SDET said:
I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never. I noticed that the population in Mass. is more stable. Fewer people move in and out. Many people take pride in their community. It's not unusual to see people volunteer to paint the town gazebo. They currently have a Republican governor. I don't feel like most of the population there is hostile to Republicans. I hear lots of people say they are Democrats, but it's nice to have a few Republicans around to prevent elected officials from getting too cocky. I asked that my sons be excused from environmentalist .activities because we believe that environmentalism is pagan Earth worship. Some forms were filled out for a religious exemption for certain activities and assignments and it was granted. In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
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so, folks desiring clean air to breathe & clean water to drink is, "pagan Earth worship."

I think my brain just ****ing exploded ...........
 
cuban smokes said:
so, folks desiring clean air to breathe & clean water to drink is, "pagan Earth worship."

I think my brain just ****ing exploded ...........
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I'm betting his HOA is steady in his **** about cutting his grass, not clearing dead trees and bushes, not raking his leaves and ever growing piles of crap in the yard. :roll:
 
Tanngrisnir said:
So, IOW, you've never actually been to California and have no idea what it's like here, but you feel content to bray about it anyhow.
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What is it with message board members to pull "facts" out of thin air. I have been to California four or five times. I asked directions and some snotty chick said, "follow your nose".
 
SDET said:
I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never. I noticed that the population in Mass. is more stable. Fewer people move in and out. Many people take pride in their community. It's not unusual to see people volunteer to paint the town gazebo. They currently have a Republican governor. I don't feel like most of the population there is hostile to Republicans. I hear lots of people say they are Democrats, but it's nice to have a few Republicans around to prevent elected officials from getting too cocky. I asked that my sons be excused from environmentalist .activities because we believe that environmentalism is pagan Earth worship. Some forms were filled out for a religious exemption for certain activities and assignments and it was granted. In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
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:lamo

Seriously? Preserving the environment so it can continue to sustain future generations is "pagan Earth worship"?

:doh
 
SDET said:
What is it with message board members to pull "facts" out of thin air. I have been to California four or five times. I asked directions and some snotty chick said, "follow your nose".
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So you've never been to CA.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
SDET said:
What is it with message board members to pull "facts" out of thin air. I have been to California four or five times. I asked directions and some snotty chick said, "follow your nose".
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So that's your villain origin story, huh? You didn't like some girl's attitude and that was the end of the line for you?
 
Cardinal said:
So that's your villain origin story, huh? You didn't like some girl's attitude and that was the end of the line for you?
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No... I did a thorough cost-benefit analysis AND see examples such as James Damore. Also, you see more things like Antifa activity, conservative speakers being run off campus. California is just a more self-centered culture. If I rent a car and it's a piece of junk, I'm not going to buy the same make and model later.
 
SDET said:
No... I did a thorough cost-benefit analysis AND see examples such as James Damore. Also, you see more things like Antifa activity, conservative speakers being run off campus. California is just a more self-centered culture. If I rent a car and it's a piece of junk, I'm not going to buy the same make and model later.
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I've never heard of James Damore, and have never run into any Antifa members. Why are you hanging around college campuses? How old are you?
 
Cardinal said:
I've never heard of James Damore, and have never run into any Antifa members. Why are you hanging around college campuses? How old are you?
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Why are you not visiting college campuses? Do you hate knowledge? Professional associations often have their events on college campuses. Look up SQL Saturday if you want an example.
 
SDET said:
Why are you not visiting college campuses? Do you hate knowledge? Professional associations often have their events on college campuses. Look up SQL Saturday if you want an example.
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Well, you've got me there. I do need to take some extra classes, actually.

I have been on college campuses on and off for one reason or another, though, but I've never seen any Antifa. I did look up Antifa and my city, but it seems like the brunt of the activity happened back in November 4-6 of last year. Were you here in November?

https://www.google.com/search?q=ant...rome..69i57.6215j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
Cardinal said:
Well, you've got me there. I do need to take some extra classes, actually.

I have been on college campuses on and off for one reason or another, though, but I've never seen any Antifa. I did look up Antifa and my city, but it seems like the brunt of the activity happened back in November 4-6 of last year. Were you here in November?

https://www.google.com/search?q=ant...rome..69i57.6215j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Right here in North Texas. If Antifa showed up here, they would run smack into the Oath Keepers. Antifa doesn't dare.
 
SDET said:
Right here in North Texas. If Antifa showed up here, they would run smack into the Oath Keepers. Antifa doesn't dare.
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Antifa is a protest and street demonstration group that often pushes the envelope. Oath Keepers are armed to the few teeth paramilitary fat right wingnuts with beards and boots who are perfectly at home in Texas. Texas is itself petrified. California got populated after we tipped the board with the states on it toward the Pacific and everything loose rattled across and into it. Still does.

I voted for the Republican Charlie Baker for governor and I'll vote to reelect him (by absentee ballot) because Charlie knows how to play the game. With the state legislature 3/4 Democratic in both houses having an R party governor helps keep 'em all honest all around-- as far as honest in politics goes anyway. Massachusetts voters are strict however about sending a Republican to Washington. Scott Brown was the exception and beneficiary of an abysmal D candidate then Brown got fired at the next election two years later when Elizabeth Warren ran him out. Republicans in Washington support other Republicans in Washington so Massachusetts voters don't send any of 'em there. We like to keep our Republicans at home and under our noses where we can see 'em every day. Keeps things neighborly.


Which reminds me....


WH chief John Kelly is from a notoriously right wing neighborhood of Boston -- one of the very few of such but very real nonetheless. When Kelly wuz growing up every kid seeking the respect of elders joined the Marines too. Kelly distinguished himself however by going to and through Rotc at UMass. Chairman of JCS Marine Gen. "Fighting Joe" Dunford is from the Boston upper crust of Beacon Hill and graduated from the small and exclusive liberal arts Middlebury College in Vermont, Rotc also.


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KANDAHAR AIRFIELD, Afghanistan -- Lieutenant General Mark A. Milley, commander of the International Security Assistance Force Joint Command, speaks with Troopers of 1st Squadron, Combined Task Force Dragoon Oct. 10, 2013, at Forward Operating Base Zangabad, Afghanistan. Milley visited Soldiers and leaders of CTF Dragoon and presented awards to a number of them. (Photo Credit: Spc. Joshua Edwards, Combined Task Force Dragoon Public Affairs)


Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley from suburban Winchester went the route of Princeton Rotc although his first choice was the Boston Bruins who Milley laments to this day never managed to hear of his feats in the rink (alleged). If we leap across the country to Central Washington State and Rotc there we can find James Mattis as an alum. Milley likes to joke that Mattis thought he wuz signing up with the Mariners when he instead suddenly found himself getting hollered at in Rotc. Milley commanded special ops forces in Afghanistan and was voted by his graduating class as most likely to break your neck. Potus Trump calls Milley the "bomb thrower in the White House."



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CSA Gen. Milley is by his force of personality and intellect recognized throughout Washington as the de facto leader of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and as its principal spokesman to the public. Chairman Dunford continues to speak to Congress for the Joint Chiefs.
 
SDET said:
I once lived in Massachusetts and would consider doing so again. California: never....
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In spite of Massachusetts being a liberal state, it has a nice sense of community and tradition. I can't say the same for California. Who would want to be around a bunch of ill-tempered, self-absorbed, virtue signalling, triggered socialists?
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I suppose that for a conservative, considering moving back to a liberal state is a rarity and should be commended.

But I'm curious as to where you lived in California and what caused you to have such a negative view of the best state in the union?
 
Xelor said:
The politics of a place, most especially a place so large as a state, wouldn't ever affect my choice to live there or not.
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The politcs of a state is the government of the state. It's one of my primary concerns when deciding where to live.

When I was going to leave the US, the politcs of the countries I was considering was my #1 concern.
 
SDET said:
No... I did a thorough cost-benefit analysis AND see examples such as James Damore. Also, you see more things like Antifa activity, conservative speakers being run off campus. California is just a more self-centered culture. If I rent a car and it's a piece of junk, I'm not going to buy the same make and model later.
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I hadn't read enough posts to realize you've never lived here. I was going to give you sh_t for putting down our best state without having done so, but realized I'd be a blatant hypocrite.

You're entitled to an opinion about any state, lived in or not, just like any place in the world. I've never lived in Europe, but after studying how most countries provide their citizens with world class healthcare and infrastructure, I have a very high opinion of them.

Whereas you couldn't pay me enough to live in some flyover state that's as flat as billiard table, populated by citizens who get their news exclusively from Fox. But the worst of the worst has to be Texas. If there's anything more obnoxious than an ignorant redneck is a smug ignorant redneck from Texas.

Their history of promoting myths about its creation, its bigoty and disgusting betrayal of their Tejano brothers in arms, is a blot on our country's history. It's sad that so many Texans still have contempt for the descendants of the natives who they screwed...

"...The Alamo became a hammer for bashing Mexican-Americans in Texas,” says Crisp, a Yale-educated Texan. “It was portrayed as a race war” between Mexicans on one side and American settlers thirsting for freedom on the other. But “on that battlefield there were free blacks, slaves, Indians from central Mexico who spoke no Spanish, Tejanos [Mexicans who sided with the Americans], Europeans, including an Italian general . . . It was almost a laboratory in multiculturalism. It was not a race war.”

All kids growing up in 1950s Texas—as I did—were raised on textbooks that omitted or obscured the fact that the Alamo counted among its defenders Spanish-speaking, Mexican-born Tejanos who fought bravely..."
 
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Carjosse said:
The thing about Massachusetts Republicans are that they do what California Republicans need to do and shift to the left politically and mostly abandon socially conservative policies and instead focus on fiscal conservatism.
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To be successful political, one needs to adjust to one's environment. A dyed in the wool conservative isn't going to win in Massachusetts or California just as a dyed in the wool liberal isn't going to win state wide here in Georgia. Georgia is ripe for a moderate perhaps a bit conservative democrat to win state wide. For some reason the Democrats down here keep nominating Atlanta liberal which resemble Northeastern Liberalism.

We just had our Georgia runoffs, for governor the GOP is putting up a right wing wacko against a left wing wacko. Crazy.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
The politcs of a state is the government of the state. It's one of my primary concerns when deciding where to live.

When I was going to leave the US, the politics of the countries I was considering was my #1 concern.
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  1. I take you at your word that that such is among your "primary concerns." That you do is "on you." I don't care that you do or don't.
  2. I too would consider the politics of a country when choosing to be, work or buy property there. Even when choosing vacation locales I consider a nation's political climate -- i.e., is the climate one in which cops arrest tourists for BS, civil war or something like it is happening, the government can't/won't ensure my general safety, the government allows calamities like plagues, natural disasters, etc. to happen without any effectual advance warning or abatement, etc. -- but not the politics.
  3. In considering whether to live in, buy property in or visit one U.S. as opposed to another U.S. state, the politics is the last thing that's going to concern me, that is, if it even crosses my mind. Whatever be and however happen politics in any U.S. state, I'm sure I can handle them just fine, regardless of whether I agree with any given policy a state's policy makers espouse or enact.
    • For the purposes of investing in a given U.S. state, all I care about are the tax code and the business laws relevant to any enterprise in which I may care to engage.
    • If it's just to buy a vacation or primary house, I care about property taxes, income taxes, the climate and the geography.
 
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