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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, there is still one open question remaining - whether or not nota bene will come back to this thread and admit she posted a lie from a right wing website in order to slander a democrat
    Itís the goPC cultural war on strong Democratic women that dare to speak truth to power, using their first amendment against alternative lies.

    Lee Atwater would be proud of this concerted effort to demonize DEM boogiewomen like Nancy, Hillary, Elizabeth, Maxine and the next DEM woman that dares to open their mouth.

    Independent goPCs have nothing on real issues, so you will continue to see their Limbaugh cultural wars. Itís all they have.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From Katie Pavlich, writing at Townhall about Warren's tweet to Trump ("While you obsess over my genes, your Admin is conducting DNA tests on little kids because you ripped them from their mamas & you are too incompetent to reunite them in time to meet a court order."):

    Not surprisingly, her characterization about why children at the border are receiving DNA tests is false. Federal immigration authorities are conducting DNA tests because it's the only way to tell if adults traveling with children are actually parents. Much of the time, adults are strangers paired to unaccompanied children by smugglers.

    ..."You can never really verify who the parents really are," former Border Patrol and Customs Special Agent Jason Piccolo said during an interview with Townhall. "Especially in light of adult males showing up with kids."

    In 2015, Piccolo blew the whistle on the Obama administration releasing unaccompanied minors to unvetted, criminal sponsors. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...tests-n2497923

    If Warren's going to try to seize the moment, she needs to seize the facts first.
    Elizabeth Warren realizes that she can make pretty much any false claim she wants to make, and the news media won't 'bother' to point out that she's lying. Its just one more example of how the media work diligently to help the democrats demonize the republicans on a daily basis. No more than 3 minutes ago, CNN was airing a segment that was pushing the b.s. narrative that "right wing extremists running for office in mid terms". <That was the banner they ran on the screen throughout the segment. Of course the primary claim they were trying to make was that "Trump has empowered racist extremists".

    Its funny how these same 'news' outlets NEVER expose extremists on the the democrats' side. Like for instance, their top speaker at the DNC's national convention in 2016, was Antonio Villaraigosa, the previous L.A. mayor. He was also a distinguished leader of the radical, racist, Marxist/Leninist separatist group MECHA, who seek the "reconquista" of the western 1/3 of America, followed by the expulsion of ALL non-Latinos! The media PRAISED that scumbag, while labeling pretty much anyone who supports Trump as racist, white nationalists!
    👉The mainstream media are not looking out for you OR me. They are NOT reporting truthfully. They are merely a propaganda tool of the global corporate elite, and the neo-con/neo-liberal political elite. They are less trusted than ever, so their new strategy is racial/cultural replacement, because they feel Latinos are more easily manipulated.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Oh, a call-out.

    Again, I don't think I posted a lie.

    And I'm the only one who can speak about my intent in posting this thread. I will say that my intent was not to slander anybody.

    I don't think Warren was being accurate when she tweeted that the reason for DNA testing is because Trump is too incompetent to beat a deadline. I've said this multiple times.
    Of course you do not believe it is a lie!!

    However, the article claims that DNA tests are the ONLY WAY to identify the parents, which is an obvious lie

    Then there is the fact that the DHS itself says it is using DNA tests in order to meet the courts deadline

    And as far as Trump being incompetent, that has been proven by his inability to comply with the court order to reunite the families

    But I do not expect the op to do anything other than continue to do anything but express certainty in the lies the article tells while never discussing the actual claims and refutations.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Linc View Post
    It’s the goPC cultural war on strong Democratic women that dare to speak truth to power, using their first amendment against alternative lies.

    Lee Atwater would be proud of this concerted effort to demonize DEM boogiewomen like Nancy, Hillary, Elizabeth, Maxine and the next DEM woman that dares to open their mouth.

    Independent goPCs have nothing on real issues, so you will continue to see their Limbaugh cultural wars. It’s all they have.
    Although I have no idea who 'Atwater' is, nor am I aware of a "conspiracy to silence strong, Democrat women who seek to speak truth to power". It's NOT a sexist or racist conspiracy to criticize corrupt, selfish politicians who happen to be female!

    Do you really still see Maxine Waters as an incorruptible, honest, caring truth-teller? Do you really see Hillary as an honest politician, who isn't even partially motivated by greed and power? Do you really think that it was acceptable for Warren to LIE about her "native American heritage", in order to cheat her way into a scholarship(thereby stealing a position from a real native American who could've used it MUCH more than E.W.)?
    👉The mainstream media are not looking out for you OR me. They are NOT reporting truthfully. They are merely a propaganda tool of the global corporate elite, and the neo-con/neo-liberal political elite. They are less trusted than ever, so their new strategy is racial/cultural replacement, because they feel Latinos are more easily manipulated.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I am trying to understand the Right's pathological fascination with Elizabeth Warren. Do they think that she's going to emerge from an inevitably crowded field in 2020? Is that part of it?
    She's an aggressive woman. In their world, she's overstepping herself -only men are supposed to behave this way.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Of course you do not believe it is a lie!!

    However, the article claims that DNA tests are the ONLY WAY to identify the parents, which is an obvious lie

    Then there is the fact that the DHS itself says it is using DNA tests in order to meet the courts deadline

    And as far as Trump being incompetent, that has been proven by his inability to comply with the court order to reunite the families

    But I do not expect the op to do anything other than continue to do anything but express certainty in the lies the article tells while never discussing the actual claims and refutations.
    Really, so any time govt agencies aren't able to meet deadlines, its proof of the incompetence of the president? You do realize that this deadline was set just about 2 weeks ago, and there are THOUSANDS of kids and adults that have to be accurately and responsibly reunited? Or should ICE have simply adopted the emotional, knee-jerk strategy of automatically handing over ANY kid to ANY adult who claims to be their parent? If they did that, and a few kids were accidentally handed over to traffickers or sex criminals, YOU would be right here complaining that they shouldve taken the time to DO IT RIGHT!

    Well, maybe not. I don't recall any outrage when dozens of children were 'accidentally' handed over to traffickers during the Obama era.

    Oh, I forgot. The media didn't drone on endlessly about that type of stuff when Obama was in office. Most progressives wouldn't have complained then, because the media weren't there, repeatedly telling them what to be outraged over!
    Last edited by ModerationNow!; 07-11-18 at 06:44 PM.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerationNow! View Post
    Really, so any time govt agencies aren't able to meet deadlines is automatically proof of incompetence of the president?
    We are talking about a court order and not just any kind of deadline

    And yes. Really
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by JackA View Post
    She's an aggressive woman. In their world, she's overstepping herself -only men are supposed to behave this way.
    Oh my God....

    Do you really fall for the leftist propaganda, that the ONLY reason that men would ever criticize a female politician is because of sexism? You really believe that conservatives don't like Elizabeth Warren because of her "strength and confidence"? Then how exactly do you explain it when conservatives vote women into office? If they are SO sexist, they would NOT support strong women(remember? It's YOUR OWN claim)?

    Or is it just possible, that there may be some 'other' reason for conservatives not liking her, Hillary, or Maxine Waters, other than some Cro-magnon instinct to oppose women?

    Attributing only unintelligent, negative, hateful motives to conservatives, is a propaganda strategy that's been used by the left for decades! Anyone who is STUPID enough to accept this irresponsible, hateful political strategy, is actually MUCH lower than the people who are undeservedly, but routinely targeted by it.
    👉The mainstream media are not looking out for you OR me. They are NOT reporting truthfully. They are merely a propaganda tool of the global corporate elite, and the neo-con/neo-liberal political elite. They are less trusted than ever, so their new strategy is racial/cultural replacement, because they feel Latinos are more easily manipulated.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    We are talking about a court order and not just any kind of deadline

    And yes. Really
    There were many times when Obama officials were late in delivering reports, evidence etc. It's a HELLUVA lot easier to deliver documentation(pieces of paper, or electronic emails etc) than it is to reliably and accurately place thousands of kids with their proper parents.

    You are aware that many, maybe most illegal immigrants have false id's and documentation(or none)? So, should they have just given over any kid to any adult who showed up claiming to be "Juan's" parent? Why do people get SO bent out of shape over kids being temporarily separated from their parents, but not at their parents from risking their lives? I'm sure this would be viewed VERY differently if the kids and their parents weren't minorities.
    👉The mainstream media are not looking out for you OR me. They are NOT reporting truthfully. They are merely a propaganda tool of the global corporate elite, and the neo-con/neo-liberal political elite. They are less trusted than ever, so their new strategy is racial/cultural replacement, because they feel Latinos are more easily manipulated.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren Just Lied About Why Kids at the Border Are Being Given DNA Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerationNow! View Post
    There were many times when Obama officials were late in delivering reports, evidence etc. It's a HELLUVA lot easier to deliver documentation(pieces of paper, or electronic emails etc) than it is to reliably and accurately place thousands of kids with their proper parents.
    Do not expect me to defend Obama but you can expect to point out how you are but-Obama-ing

    You are aware that many, maybe most illegal immigrants have false id's and documentation(or none)? So, should they have just given over any kid to any adult who showed up claiming to be "Juan's" parent? Why do people get SO bent out of shape over kids being temporarily separated from their parents, but not at their parents from risking their lives? I'm sure this would be viewed VERY differently if the kids and their parents weren't minorities.
    The thread is about Warrens tweet concerning Trumps incompetence
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