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Kamala Harris: "It was 8 immigrants who the Declaration of Independence"

I know, do my own research but perhaps someone knows this "off the top of their head"

Did new arrivals prior to the revolutionary war have to declare themselves at a Customs house or did ships only have to declare actual trade goods?
 
Great argument. Legal American Immigrants are legal because they are British??? I think you need more beer.

Really dumb reply. There were no AMERICAN immigrants at the time of the revolution because the United States nation did not exist as anything more than an asperation of 13 British colonies. Hence, none of the signers were "immigrants", they were already British from the British isles moving from one part of the empire to another (the 8 mentioned).

They were no more "immigrants" than are those American nationals that migrate out of California, Oregon, or Puerto Rico.

And it was not an issue of "inclusion" but one of "exclusion", at least 1/3rd of the subjects in the Americas wanted OUT of the empire to form a new country.

If I keep hearing historically illiterate comments by Ms. Harris and you, I WILL NEED more beer.
 
Do you read your own posts? Snopes clearly states she did not say this and an explanation:

Say what?

Did you even bother to read the Snopes piece and find the actual quote of Michelle Obama's?
All they did was to make excuses for her gaffe.
And now you are making excuses for her gaffe too.
I suppose next you'll be making excuses for Harris's gaffe as well...

Michelle Obama said, It's amazing that just a few feet from here where I'm standing all the signatures of the 56 founders who put their names on a Declaration that changed the course of history, and like the 50 of you, NONE of them were born Amercan — They became American.

Snopes is wrong, Obama was wrong, Harris is wrong, and you're wrong.

Declaration Resources Project

48 of the 56 signers were born in America. Two were born in England (Button Gwinnett, Robert Morris), two in Ireland (George Taylor, Matthew Thornton), two in Scotland (James Wilson, John Witherspoon), one in Northern Ireland (James Smith), and one in Wales (Francis Lewis).
 
Really dumb reply. There were no AMERICAN immigrants at the time of the revolution because the United States nation did not exist .

Good on you for admitting it and realizing that mentioning the other 48 signers would have been pointless. So everyone saying she is lying or she is advocating for illegal immigrants are wrong and pretty racist at that.
 
No, it has to do with legal immigration. Do you think that anyone that didn't follow immigration laws could be considered as illegal?

I don't recall Harris mentioning illegal immigrants either...

Again. Not sure which laws you are talking about.
 
Say what?

Did you even bother to read the Snopes piece and find the actual quote of Michelle Obama's?
All they did was to make excuses for her gaffe.
And now you are making excuses for her gaffe too.
I suppose next you'll be making excuses for Harris's gaffe as well...

Michelle Obama said, It's amazing that just a few feet from here where I'm standing all the signatures of the 56 founders who put their names on a Declaration that changed the course of history, and like the 50 of you, NONE of them were born Amercan — They became American.

Snopes is wrong, Obama was wrong, Harris is wrong, and you're wrong. QUOTE]


It is truly sad that you cannot understand the meaning of those words. Did the Declaration of Independence not define America? Americans? Before the Declaration of Independence was signed who exactly was an American as we understand that today?

Snopes is right, Obama was right, Harris is right, and you are mistaken.
 
Kamala Harris via Twitter; "A reminder this Fourth of July: it was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence. Happy Independence Day."

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenKamalaHarris/status/1014488703526473728

Harris is either A) ignorant of the fact that the Declaration of Independence was actually signed by more than just '8 immigrants', or B) deliberately trying to mislead people on Twitter into thinking the Declaration of Independence was an immigrant invention. 48 of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence were born on American soil.
They also didn't violate the laws of another country to do so.
 
Exactly. This is the problem that I have with those that support illegal immigrants. They can only do so by misleading and emotionalism.

I certainly don't support illegal immigration. I also don't support separating families and locking kids up in various states. Poorly conceived and even more poorly implemented.

Which is odd because the Trump admin. discussed this only two weeks after the inauguration and even ran a pilot program between October 2017 and February 2018.

Trump admin discussed separating moms, kids to deter asylum-seekers in Feb. 2017
 
Oh so her statement had nothing to do with illegal immigration? None at all?

Since all evidence points to the fact that those 8 were legal immigrants. No it doesn't seem like she was. It's up to you to prove that she was since it is you making the claim.
 
Good on you for admitting it and realizing that mentioning the other 48 signers would have been pointless. So everyone saying she is lying or she is advocating for illegal immigrants are wrong and pretty racist at that.

As I concealed nothing and have not changed mind on any assertion, I can't admit anything - your phantasms on my position notwithstanding. As I said, Ms. Harris purpose was as opaque as it was seemingly pointless, unless she was trying to sell the idea that immigrants cause civil insurrection (not exactly a bright thing to say if you support immigration).

By the way, when she said "A reminder this Fourth of July: it was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence. Happy Independence Day." she needn't mention ANY immigrants or migrants, 8 or otherwise. But yes, she was trying to make a tortured analogy, dissembling by implying that eight persons born in the British Isles were THE signatories, rather than a small portion of all signatories (most of whom were born in the colonies).
 
The point went way over your head.

She has no valid point. 48 of the signers were born on American soil, and the other 8 were of Dutch and British nationalities at birth. Kamala Harris and her slimy supporters want to change the demographics of the country by illegal means in order to seize all political power. Either you support her agenda or you don't.
 
She's fighting for inclusion and democracy. Not sure what it is you are fighting for.

Theres no inclusion being courted here in California. It's very obvious that the Democratic Party wants to be the Supreme Leader of the state, and is waging a war of population numbers in order to achieve their goals. Never mind the rampant homelessness and drug addiction, poverty and misery, the DNC is perfectly willing to endanger the lives of vulnerable citizens in order to achieve their long sought hegemony.
 
8 legal immigrants, not 8 illegal immigrants.
 
Wow the stupid right strikes again....please score your President bone spur on his accuracies in twitter statements.....Holy crap I find it ironic that morons are attacking Ms. Harris for nothing while the Douce bag rambles on and on. Please STFU
 
She has no valid point. 48 of the signers were born on American soil, and the other 8 were of Dutch and British nationalities at birth. Kamala Harris and her slimy supporters want to change the demographics of the country by illegal means in order to seize all political power. Either you support her agenda or you don't.

Like it or not the demographics are changing with or without her agenda. She's just riding the wave. It seems to have got you pretty scared.
 
As I concealed nothing and have not changed mind on any assertion, I can't admit anything - your phantasms on my position notwithstanding. As I said, Ms. Harris purpose was as opaque as it was seemingly pointless, unless she was trying to sell the idea that immigrants cause civil insurrection (not exactly a bright thing to say if you support immigration).

By the way, when she said "A reminder this Fourth of July: it was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence. Happy Independence Day." she needn't mention ANY immigrants or migrants, 8 or otherwise. But yes, she was trying to make a tortured analogy, dissembling by implying that eight persons born in the British Isles were THE signatories, rather than a small portion of all signatories (most of whom were born in the colonies).

Yup keep on repeating your nonsense. Nothing but wasted jumbled text on your part. Seems to me like she's got you pretty scared.
 
Wow the stupid right strikes again....please score your President bone spur on his accuracies in twitter statements.....Holy crap I find it ironic that morons are attacking Ms. Harris for nothing while the Douce bag rambles on and on. Please STFU

Please learn how to spell douche. Thank you.
 
There were not any U.S. Citizens present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence. A lot of British subjects but no U.S. Citizens since we had not as yet won our independence.

Hate to bring up a technicality but sometimes a person has to.

I was thinking the SAME thing, lol.


"Well......technically......"
 
No one is opposed to inclusion as long as those who want to be included follow the laws that are already on the books and enter LEGALLY. Sorry for shouting but sometimes it is required to get a point across and/or relieve tension.

It is interesting that of all the laws white conservatives ignore on a daily basis, the ones they are focused on targets blacks, browns and immigrants. They seem to turn a blind eye towards white collar crime, even complicity in turning an election by the Russians. But if they see one Mexican speaking Spanish in a Walmart, they call ICE and go crazy. It was the same thing with Native Americans and former slaves. This is not a new concept for white conservatives in America.
 
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